Questions & Mysteries Is Oda messed up for giving the combatant and cook comparable opponents and importance?
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Lanji's level is getting fodderized by Vergo, incapable of moving Dofla with his strongest moves in the same arc that Zoro oneshotted Vergo's superior and pushed back an Admiral with a flying slash. Lanji's level is dreaming of hurting a shitter like Queen the same way that Zoro hurt a nearly invincible Kaido. I don't need to go further than this. 
Oda is "messed up" in many ways, but this is not one of them. The only Sanji opponent that's canonically comparable to Zoro's opponent is Jabura, where base Jabura's doriki is similar to base Kaku's doriki.
The rest of the time is y'all power-scaling gag panels and pulling stuff like "Zoro uses KoH against base Sanji." And then some of you freak out when someone doesn't say that Sanji is a 99 to Zoro's 100, as if it is downplaying Sanji to call him anything but Zoro's equal or "near-equal." It's like saying Zoro is stronger means that Sanji is a low diff for him in the brains of some people.
The rest of the time is y'all power-scaling gag panels and pulling stuff like "Zoro uses KoH against base Sanji." And then some of you freak out when someone doesn't say that Sanji is a 99 to Zoro's 100, as if it is downplaying Sanji to call him anything but Zoro's equal or "near-equal." It's like saying Zoro is stronger means that Sanji is a low diff for him in the brains of some people.
This is exactly what I was talking about. The only thing I said was that Jabura is the only major Sanji opponent that's actually proven to be comparably powerful to Zoro's opponent. I never once said that all of Zoro's opponents are "far superior."
The only info we have most of the time is the generic strength-ranking of the opponents. We know Mr. 1 is stronger than Mr. 2, but we don't know by how much. We know King is stronger than Queen, but we don't know by how much. Yet some of you guys take it as an insult if someone doesn't believe that the gap between their opponents is so small that it might as well be nonexistent. Even the term "comparable" is very vague and people tend to have differing views on where the line in the sand actually lies.
This is exactly what I was talking about. The only thing I said was that Jabura is the only major Sanji opponent that's actually proven to be comparably powerful to Zoro's opponent. I never once said that all of Zoro's opponents are "far superior."
The only info we have most of the time is the generic strength-ranking of the opponents. We know Mr. 1 is stronger than Mr. 2, but we don't know by how much. We know King is stronger than Queen, but we don't know by how much. Yet some of you guys take it as an insult if someone doesn't believe that the gap between their opponents is so small that it might as well be nonexistent. Even the term "comparable" is very vague and people tend to have differing views on where the line in the sand actually lies.
Dude was EXTREMELY hard carried by his DF.
He's not "strong". He just got a "hack"skill.
This is exactly what I was talking about. The only thing I said was that Jabura is the only major Sanji opponent that's actually proven to be comparably powerful to Zoro's opponent. I never once said that all of Zoro's opponents are "far superior."
The only info we have most of the time is the generic strength-ranking of the opponents. We know Mr. 1 is stronger than Mr. 2, but we don't know by how much. We know King is stronger than Queen, but we don't know by how much. Yet some of you guys take it as an insult if someone doesn't believe that the gap between their opponents is so small that it might as well be nonexistent. Even the term "comparable" is very vague and people tend to have differing views on where the line in the sand actually lies.
We know Zoro always get the second dude and sanji get the third dude who is not far behind the second dude.
The point is that the real gap is between 2/3 dudes and the rest of the enemy's crew, just like Kaku/Jabra, King/Queen. Zoro and Sanji are a lot stronger and more important than the others SHs, which is the point of the thread.
I just asked
Cause you make it sound like something absurd
Cause you make it sound like something absurd
Personally, I think Oda definitely makes Zoro/Sanji opponents closer in strength to each other than to other members of the crew/group (i.e. King is closer to Queen than he is to Kaido, and Queen is closer to King than he is to Jack) but I don't think that means that the two of them have to be near-equals necessarily.
