luffy never formed an alliance with kidd he just happened to be going to onigashima and he tagged along, real alliance are like the ones luffy formed with momo and the minks or the one he formed with law and capone
You realise that Luffy is Kid and Laws ally right? Meaning Kid and Law can call on Luffy and his crew right? Doesn’t matter what he said. It’s clear he’s a ally.
Allies and quality subordinates also factor into threat level and bounties tbh.
Luffy got 1.5 billion in WCI not because he defeated Katakuri but because he beat 2 commanders,destroyed Bm's castle and was credited for the entire plan as weAll as the leader of the alliance that assaulted Wci which obviously wasn't true.
Here in Wano we have on hand Luffy,Law and their allies(Minks,Samurai and Marco/Izo) and Kid pirates on their own with Kid saying more than once that he isn't in any alliance with Luffy and law yet he gets the same credit as Luffy and Law??
Like if Kid pirates weren't lucky to raid Onigashima the same day as the alliance,they wouldn't even have gotten to meet Kaido or BM themselves,defeated by the Beast pirates.
Law and Luffy getting the same bounty was understandable but Kid? He gets to have the same bounty for lending a hand to Luffy's and law's alliance in raiding Onigashima without being part of the alliance himself which is like saying having gathered manpower or being leaders of the alliance don't mean anything.
However, he was the captain who led the defeat of the commanders
Except Kidd pirates are not seen to be on their own. What Kidd said is irrelevant to what was perceived that the supernova who led the invasion Onigashima were in an alliance. Hence, the 3 captains were credited with the defeat of 2 Yonkou
However, he was the captain who led the defeat of the commanders
Except Kidd pirates are not seen to be on their own. What Kidd said is irrelevant to what was perceived that the supernova who led the invasion Onigashima were in an alliance. Hence, the 3 captains were credited with the defeat of 2 Yonkou
Hence why kid's bounty is believed to be inflated,he didn't contribute In anything other than fighting Kaido and Bm and is getting undeserved credit just like Luffy in Wci.
Luffy and law faced Kaido and BM like kid and actually raised an army that raided Onigashima.
Luffy befriending Kinemon and Momo which was the reason the Minks and Marco were in Onigashima should've definfely gotten a bounty above Law,with kid having the lowest bounty based purely on his fighting strength.
Unfortunately the government didn't know what was actually going on but we readers know Kid doesn't deserve equal bounty with other 2.
Because Kid didn’t fight BM with Law and hope Luffy could beat Kaido? Cause the Kid pirates outside Kid aren’t having a drink with the other alliance members? Kid is in denial but the facts speak for themselves.
Because Kid didn’t fight BM with Law and hope Luffy could beat Kaido? Cause the Kid pirates outside Kid aren’t having a drink with the other alliance members? Kid is in denial but the facts speak for themselves.
Hence why kid's bounty is believed to be inflated,he didn't contribute In anything other than fighting Kaido and Bm and is getting undeserved credit just like Luffy in Wci.
Luffy and law faced Kaido and BM like kid and actually raised an army that raided Onigashima.
Luffy befriending Kinemon and Momo which was the reason the Minks and Marco were in Onigashima should've definfely gotten a bounty above Law,with kid having the lowest bounty based purely on his fighting strength.
Unfortunately the government didn't know what was actually going on but we readers know Kid doesn't deserve equal bounty with other 2.
at least when it comes to bounty.. it’s clear to me that the government was trying a cover up regarding Luffy’s awakening and form..
Thus, it’s logical to assume they would also try to cover up the whole Luffy took down Kaido alone at the end…
Instead, to keep supressing SH Luffy.. and not make anything big out of it… they made it all like Kaido + Big Mom were taken down by the group effort of 3 captains.. as if Luffy was in same plane as Law and Kidd, nothing special, no joy boy shit
Basically they try to make Luffy look less impressive by making him look as equal to Law or kidd..
at least when it comes to bounty.. it’s clear to me that the government was trying a cover up regarding Luffy’s awakening and form..
Thus, it’s logical to assume they would also try to cover up the whole Luffy took down Kaido alone at the end…
Instead, to keep supressing SH Luffy.. and not make anything big out of it… they made it all like Kaido + Big Mom were taken down by the group effort of 3 captains.. as if Luffy was in same plane as Law and Kidd, nothing special, no joy boy shit
Basically they try to make Luffy look less impressive by making him look as equal to Law or kidd..
if they are trying to make luffy less impressive why give him a bounty at all in the process making him a yonko, they could have given law and kidd a bounty of 4 billion each in the process people think they defeated kaido and bigmom in a 2v1 it is not like the beast pirate would start spreading rumor that it was actually luffy that defeated kaido since they are not doing that now they won't do it in this scenario
if they are trying to make luffy less impressive why give him a bounty at all in the process making him a yonko, they could have given law and kidd a bounty of 4 billion each in the process people think they defeated kaido and bigmom in a 2v1 it is not like the beast pirate would start spreading rumor that it was actually luffy that defeated kaido since they are not doing that now they won't do it in this scenario
Pal you're getting dense on this matter for no reason lol.
Emperors are only worth individual strength?
Their crews are irrelevant?
In that case the Rooftop 5 should just have marched straight to Onigashima and pawn anyone opposing them until they meet the emperors.
Guess what? It doesn't work that way and every accomplishment Zoro,Sanji and other strawhats did this war is supposed to factor into luffy's notoriety as their captain and hence bounty,same for the samurai,mink and Marco,Luffy helped gather.
You think it's a coincidence Luffy was the only one of the 3 named an emperor? The Government either just deflated his bounty in comparison to law and Kid's or they inflated the latters'.
What undeserved credit did kid get? He's not an alliance leader nor did he help in making those alliances,remember how Luffy was unfairly credited as the mastermind of the Wci events and the credit he got from it? lol.
Since only pirates get credited with stuff like this,Luffy and Law should have been the only ones recognized as leaders of the entire operation and have bounties accordingly matching that.
If the Government was really aware of what exactly happened in Wano,Kid would've had a bounty matching his and crew's fighting contribution only, which is inferior to luffy's entire contribution in yhe war no matter how you look at it.
Kid pirates getting lucky to raid Onigashima the same day as the alliance with the Government being unaware of it isn't supposed to mean Kid's own bounty is justified,Kid just benefits from the same amount of plot amor through Oda like Luffy benefited in WcI.
Watch next killer having a bounty close or equal to Zoro's for doing less than him on the rooftop and beating fodder Hawkins.
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Bounty is overall threat to the world Government i.e individual strength+knowledge and accomplishments against the world government + Man power.
Pirate Captain bounties' have always been their own strength and accomplishments +knowledge and affiliations with other WG opposing factions+underlings.
So believing Luffy,law and kid received bounties only because of their fights against Kaido and Bm is funny when Kaido had an entire army backing him up and the Supernova needed an army of theirs' opposing Kaido's and Orochi's army to even get face to face with the emperors.
Remove kid and his crew from the raid and Zoro and Law still beat BM,Marco participates in Rooftop fight and later takes out king and the raid can still succeed.
Remove the Samurai,Mink,Tama and Marco/Yamato contribution Which Luffy helped create and the entire raid results in a terrible stomp in Beast pirates'/Bm's favor even with Kid pirates' contribution.
This is the difference in credit and thus bounty kid and Luffy should've had.
Pal you're getting dense on this matter for no reason lol.
Emperors are only worth individual strength?
Their crews are irrelevant?
In that case the Rooftop 5 should just have marched straight to Onigashima and pawn anyone opposing them until they meet the emperors.
Guess what? It doesn't work that way and every accomplishment Zoro,Sanji and other strawhats did this war is supposed to factor into luffy's notoriety as their captain and hence bounty,same for the samurai,mink and Marco,Luffy helped gather.
You think it's a coincidence Luffy was the only one of the 3 named an emperor? The Government either just deflated his bounty in comparison to law and Kid's or they inflated the latters'.
What undeserved credit did kid get? He's not an alliance leader nor did he help in making those alliances,remember how Luffy was unfairly credited as the mastermind of the Wci events and the credit he got from it? lol.
Since only pirates get credited with stuff like this,Luffy and Law should have been the only ones recognized as leaders of the entire operation and have bounties accordingly matching that.
If the Government was really aware of what exactly happened in Wano,Kid would've had a bounty matching his and crew's fighting contribution only, which is inferior to luffy's entire contribution in yhe war no matter how you look at it.
Kid pirates getting lucky to raid Onigashima the same day as the alliance with the Government being unaware of it isn't supposed to mean Kid's own bounty is justified,Kid just benefits from the same amount of plot amor through Oda like Luffy benefited in WcI.
Watch next killer having a bounty close or equal to Zoro's for doing less than him on the rooftop and beating fodder Hawkins.
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Bounty is overall threat to the world Government i.e individual strength+knowledge and accomplishments against the world government + Man power.
Pirate Captain bounties' have always been their own strength and accomplishments +knowledge and affiliations with other WG opposing factions+underlings.
So believing Luffy,law and kid received bounties only because of their fights against Kaido and Bm is funny when Kaido had an entire army backing him up and the Supernova needed an army of theirs' opposing Kaido's and Orochi's army to even get face to face with the emperors.
Remove kid and his crew from the raid and Zoro and Law still beat BM,Marco participates in Rooftop fight and later takes out king and the raid can still succeed.
Remove the Samurai,Mink,Tama and Marco/Yamato contribution Which Luffy helped create and the entire raid results in a terrible stomp in Beast pirates'/Bm's favor even with Kid pirates' contribution.
This is the difference in credit and thus bounty kid and Luffy should've had.
Just because I don't agree with you on something you made up doesn't mean I'm dense.
It is the bounty of emperors which get trickled down to the crews not the other way round so yes Emperors are worth their individual feats.
In this case, the crews and allies are irrelevant because the 3 captains are seen as trio who led the alliance to defeat two Yonkou. Who brought what into the alliance is irrelevant to the One piece world as shown in the headlines.
"He's not an alliance leader" - To the one piece world he is.
"He did not help make the alliance" - Again irrelevant to what the bounty was based on. By virtue of fighting on the part of the pirate -mink alliance against Beast priates, he was part of the alliance regardless
If Kidd did not fight Kaido and Defeat Big Mom then his bounty would be undeserved, however, that is not what happened. The bounties of the trio is based on defeating the two Yonkou
Individually kid and law are worth around three billion. Together they took down a serious emperor, that’s what happened. They had the strength to do it.
We’ve seen billion berry commanders vs a serious admiral and they got destroyed in minutes.
Honestly the only reason Law and Kid seem over inflated is because they have the same bounty as Luffy. However, that’s because the gorosei deflated Luffys bounty.
Individually kid and law are worth around three billion. Together they took down a serious emperor, that’s what happened. They had the strength to do it.
We’ve seen billion berry commanders vs a serious admiral and they got destroyed in minutes.
Honestly the only reason Law and Kid seem over inflated is because they have the same bounty as Luffy. However, that’s because the gorosei deflated Luffys bounty.
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