Versus Battle Ouhon Vs Bananji: The Runback

[Elder Lee Hung]

VERSION: This is General Ouhon as he appears after Shukai Plains.

VERSUS

VERSION: This is Bananji as he appears at Shukai Plains

My opinion:

Ouhon wins. His spear by this point has reached Earl Shi level, and already at Shukai Plains Bananji literally couldn’t even swing his weapon at Ouhon.

Bananji’s only hope at winning this is to resort to his iron-hammer hand to hand shenanigans, in which case he might win..but mounted with weapons, Ouhon takes a phat W.

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[Owl Ki]

Ere, I remember doing a an analysis style post on this fight. Lol.

This thread is getting flat out ridiculous.

Bananji could not even swing his damn glaive at Ouhon without getting consistently pushed on the back foot, physically overwhelmed and even getting tagged by Ouhon's spear.

Spoiler: Chapter 526

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-2.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-3.html

Notice the big ol' chunk of armour missing on Bananji's shoulder (it even looks like a straight up gash wound) and how he says "yet to take a clean hit"? He has not taken a clean hit but he has taken a hit. Also, a clean hit from Ouhon's spear results in being crippled at best or skewered at worst. Just ask Earl Shi and Gyou'un.

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-4.html

Bananji is now gritting his teeth in frustration. People do not usually do that when things are going well for them.

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-5.html

This is followed by what seems to be the best that Bananji Brigade can come up with.

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-6.html

"Perhaps".... Yeah, perhaps is not a definitive term in the slightest. If your argument depends on a "perhaps" then you should be calling it quits.

Now we have the "Bananji dismounting Ouhon" schtick which is flat out nonsense.

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-7.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-8.html

Just to bypass Ouhon's spear, Bananji has to sacrifice his weapon and charge in like a mad man in order to get past Ouhon's reach. It still fails because Ouhon has quick reflexes and sees it coming.

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-8.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-9.html

That was not an attempt to dismount Ouhon in order to give himself an advantage. That was an all or nothing gamble to attempt to kill Ouhon in one strike because using a glaive was going absolutely nowhere.

Said gamble flat out failed. Not only that but Ouhon is so unfazed by Bananji's nonsense that he immediately attempts to break Bananji's arm.

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-9.html

Bananji instantly recognises that he is in danger of losing the use of his right arm and quickly flings Ouhon away. He does not attempt to attack Ouhon with his left hand, he flings Ouhon away before he loses his right arm.

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-10.html

Bananji then says this...

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-10.html

"So you managed to avoid it." not "Haha, you're dismounted, now you're mine bitch!"

This is followed by an explanation on how he was going to kill Ouhon via the power of fisting.

Like I said, Bananji's aim was never to dismount Ouhon. His aim was to kill him instantly and he failed big time since his plan backfired on him. He put himself in a scenario where he is dismounted and unarmed after having to fling his still armed opponent (I doubt Ouhon carries four swords just for ornamentation purposes) away after his arm was in danger of getting broken by said opponent.

Then he needs a subordinate to pass his weapon to his vulnerable arse before someone sends his head flying.

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-10.html

So to summarise;
- Bananji was completely on the defensive.
- Bananji was not capable of even getting a chance to swing his glaive.
- Bananji was getting physically overwhelmed with his arse being pushed back multiple times.
- Bananji was even getting tagged by Ouhon's spear.
- Bananji was forced to risk an all or nothing gamble that resulted in exactly nothing.
- Nearly got his arm broken.
- Got dismounted.
- Ended up unarmed.

This bloke is not beating Ouhon. Especially when Bananji's equal/superior in Gyou'un needed himself along with his ten best men (all on par with Garo) to utilise a tactic designed for slaying Legendary Great Generals and still lost a man to Ouhon before Kanjou interfered... and then got a crippled arm.

Yet somehow, the argument of Bananji defeating Ouhon is not the worst take that I have read here.

That honour goes to this paragraph...

Son, what brand of bath salt do you inhale? This is almost as bad as when you claimed that Yotanwa was "trash in strategy".

How on Earth did Bananji showcase his strength better than Gyou'un when he almost flat out died to a dead man's hand?

Spoiler: Chapter 559

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-559-page-14.html

1/2 an inch deeper and Bananji would have been leaking brain fluid all over the Shukai Plains.

So apart from getting his helmet shattered and his skull almost split open, every other time that Akou and Bananji fought, they were dead equal to each other.

Spoiler: Compilation time.

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-12.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-13.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-558-page-15.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-558-page-16.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-558-page-19.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-559-page-14.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-559-page-15.html

Bananji never once overpowered Akou by himself and he almost got flat out killed by him despite getting assistance from Gyou'un.

Gyou'un never got his helmet shattered, never got his skull almost split open and even got this bit of dialogue to hype him up over Akou.

Spoiler: Chapter 559

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-559-page-6.html

Compare that to what was said of Bananji vs Akou in the previous chapter.

Spoiler: Chapter 558

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-558-page-16.html

Then I really do not see how Bananji got superior portrayal.

 

[Big Boiii]

Will comment on this after catching up within few days-weeks bro. Cause you already know this bitch about to be a discussion with huge posts 😂

 

[MarineHQ]

To be dropping this absolute gem of a thread right when i gotta sleep...

But make no mistake this is surely going to continue tomorrow.


Alright so Bananji takes this for me. General Ouhon is clearly equal to Earl Shi there's no doubt about that. During their short exchange Ouhon was clearly the aggressor which is just natural considering the matchup and how mounted a spear wielder is clearly on the advantage. Ouhon was the first ever Top Tier spear wielder that Bananji ever fought, yet his defensive skills allowed him to block all of Ouhon's full power thrusts and doing that by stating that he needs a couple more exchanges to get the "hang of it". With time he's adapting to the natural disadvantage this matchup comes with. This is also a testament to his skill as a warrior. What impressed me about Bananji is how analytical he can be despite having the aura of a mindless brute.

The "all or nothing gamble" as @Owl Ki put it was due to the Zhao being short on time so he couldn't have a full on 1v1 with either Ouhon or Akou. It is when Bananji realises this that he changes tactics to an unorthodox method that completely fucked up Ouhon on the first try not only dismounting him but also taking his biggest advantage which is keeping the distance while mounted away from him

Unfortunately we've never seen Ouhon block the Glaive swings of Bananji because I'd really enjoy seeing how he deals with them. Bananji's physical stats are insane lol.

- Pulverising skulls with his bare fists only.

- Swatting Ouhon away like a fly lol where did it look like his arm was about to break ?
It was an desperate attempt for Ouhon to grapple.

- Generating the exact same force as mounted Akou charging at Bananji with full speed which is just an insane feat to me.

By losing it just for half second he knocked out Akou's ass with a single blow, this guy hits different not that i expect anything less from Riboku's deputy.

And i have yet to know how to scale rage mode Bananji.

Realistically speaking. Mounted Ouhon will beat him at this stage but if Bananji actually manages to get him on the ground he's taking his ass out lol there's a reason why Akou came flying in once Ouhon got knocked off his horse.

You know what? Fuck it. Bananji's taking Hon-sama's head back to Ganmon, can't wait for him to be portrayed above Ji Aga who already looks stupid himself. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that Gyou'Un was below Bananji at the Shukai plains.

The Demon of Ganmon reigns supreme

Not even Ousen could've predicted this dude's real strength!

Ere, I remember doing a an analysis style post on this fight. Lol.

I'll be addressing those points after i get up but come on bro you're clearly bias with most of them.

 

[Owl Ki]

Putting a filler here so that I don't have to deal with a merged post from @MarineHQ62

I'll be addressing those points after i get up but come on bro you're clearly bias with most of them.

Am I really being called biased by Mr. "Yotanwa is trash at strategy"?

 

[Jailer]

The demon of ganmon high diff, agree with @MarineHQ62 post

 

[God Buggy]

I'm going with Ouhon, high/extreme diff.

- In their exchange (with weapons) Bananji was having problems with Ouhon's level of spearmanship and thought that, provided with time, he could have perhaps gotten the hang of it. Not the brightest of looks in my opinion. Then, since time was lacking, he employed his other fighting method but this didn't look good either to me since Ouhon ended up completely avoiding any damage from close combat but with his swords still on him while Bananji was disarmed there (and in fact he had a soldier give him his spear back).

- Ouhon's perfomace against Gyou’Un, someone I think is even stronger than Bananji, which was outstanding. While being in the conditions he was, he managed to land a crippling blow to Gyou’Un.

The sheer level of skill Ouhon has is insane.

Ouhon was, later, the one to end Gyou’Un in a single exchange.

Ouhon is an absolute martial monster. Pretty scary to think what what peak Ouhon will look like, given his current level.

 

[Big Boiii]

To be dropping this absolute gem of a thread right when i gotta sleep...

But make no mistake this is surely going to continue tomorrow.


Alright so Bananji takes this for me. General Ouhon is clearly equal to Earl Shi there's no doubt about that. During their short exchange Ouhon was clearly the aggressor which is just natural considering the matchup and how mounted a spear wielder is clearly on the advantage. Ouhon was the first ever Top Tier spear wielder that Bananji ever fought, yet his defensive skills allowed him to block all of Ouhon's full power thrusts and doing that by stating that he needs a couple more exchanges to get the "hang of it". With time he's adapting to the natural disadvantage this matchup comes with. This is also a testament to his skill as a warrior. What impressed me about Bananji is how analytical he can be despite having the aura of a mindless brute.

The "all or nothing gamble" as @Owl Ki put it was due to the Zhao being short on time so he couldn't have a full on 1v1 with either Ouhon or Akou. It is when Bananji realises this that he changes tactics to an unorthodox method that completely fucked up Ouhon on the first try not only dismounting him but also taking his biggest advantage which is keeping the distance while mounted away from him

Unfortunately we've never seen Ouhon block the Glaive swings of Bananji because I'd really enjoy seeing how he deals with them. Bananji's physical stats are insane lol.

- Pulverising skulls with his bare fists only.

- Swatting Ouhon away like a fly lol where did it look like his arm was about to break ?
It was an desperate attempt for Ouhon to grapple.

- Generating the exact same force as mounted Akou charging at Bananji with full speed which is just an insane feat to me.

By losing it just for half second he knocked out Akou's ass with a single blow, this guy hits different not that i expect anything less from Riboku's deputy.

And i have yet to know how to scale rage mode Bananji.

Realistically speaking. Mounted Ouhon will beat him at this stage but if Bananji actually manages to get him on the ground he's taking his ass out lol there's a reason why Akou came flying in once Ouhon got knocked off his horse.

You know what? Fuck it. Bananji's taking Hon-sama's head back to Ganmon, can't wait for him to be portrayed above Ji Aga who already looks stupid himself. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that Gyou'Un was below Bananji at the Shukai plains.

The Demon of Ganmon reigns supreme

Not even Ousen could've predicted this dude's real strength!

I'll be addressing those points after i get up but come on bro you're clearly bias with most of them.

That boy Ouhon was like:

Spoiler

Remember when healthy Ouhon gave his strongest attack to Bananji, thinking he could finish him off "With every fibre of his body and soul. Putting everything into this single instant!!":

Spoiler

Oh right, Bananji without having an ounce of experience against a strong spear-wielder proceeded to deflect all of Ouhon's all-out blows. Receiving 0 damage in the process.

Spoiler

Healthy Ouhon going all out couldn't put a single scratch on the Demon, lordy. But we won't expose Ouhon like that MarineHQ, keeping it between us.

 

[Desolate Smaug]

Agreed. Ouhon is an elite. Even a better fight than Shin at times when you discount the ass pulls.
When you consider his tactical acumen and Martial prowess he is easily a better general in comparison to Mouten and Shin.
Could easily become someone like Souheikun

 

[Big Boiii]

I'm going with Ouhon, high/extreme diff.

- In their exchange (with weapons) Bananji was having problems with Ouhon's level of spearmanship and thought that, provided with time, he could have perhaps gotten the hang of it. Not the brightest of looks in my opinion. Then, since time was lacking, he employed his other fighting method but this didn't look good either to me since Ouhon ended up completely avoiding any damage from close combat but with his swords still on him while Bananji was disarmed there (and in fact he had a soldier give him his spear back).

- Ouhon's perfomace against Gyou’Un, someone I think is even stronger than Bananji, which was outstanding. While being in the conditions he was, he managed to land a crippling blow to Gyou’Un.

The sheer level of skill Ouhon has is insane.

Ouhon was, later, the one to end Gyou’Un in a single exchange.

Ouhon is an absolute martial monster. Pretty scary to think what what peak Ouhon will look like, given his current level.

Mans really about start another Gyou'un vs Bananji debate. You tread dangerous lines God Buggy.

 

[God Buggy]

Mans really about start another Gyou'un vs Bananji debate. You tread dangerous lines God Buggy.

 

[Desolate Smaug]

Mans really about start another Gyou'un vs Bananji debate. You tread dangerous lines God Buggy.

Isn't it already accepted Gyoun is stronger? I mean pretty of other generals have been stated to have the martial might of Renpa including one his 4 generals.
Anyone with 95+ strength rating could be given such hype in my opinion.

 

[MarineHQ]

Am I really being called biased by Mr. "Yotanwa is trash at strategy"?

Trash may have been too much as she has shown somewhat of a decent understanding for strategy and tactics against the Quanrong. Still a far cry from the levels we're used to from Kanki, Ousen, Tou, Mouten and Ouhon and those are the levels I've compared her too.

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Isn't it already accepted Gyoun is stronger? I mean pretty of other generals have been stated to have the martial might of Renpa including one his 4 generals.
Anyone with 95+ strength rating could be given such hype in my opinion.

No. Gyou'Un is a public and very well known figure for being the right hand of former three great heaven RSJ and he was the symbol for Zhao's martial might. As Bananji explained he was busy crushing the Xiongnu tribes in the North that we know nothing about because data being leaked from there is especially rare.
Not even the high ranking generals of Zhao as Garyuu knew anything about Bananji so it's impossible for the other states to know.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Healthy Ouhon going all out couldn't put a single scratch on the Demon, lordy.

And yet, you have no opinion of Bananji not even being able to swing his Glaive at Ouhon lol. “Ouhon couldn’t scratch Bananji!” Even though Ouhon literally did pierce through the armor on Bananji’s right shoulder, and while Bananji couldn’t even swing his damn weapon at Ouhon lol, let alone scratch him.

You completely disregard the fact that Bananji literally could not even reciprocate a fight against Ouhon, all he could do was desperately deflect Ouhon’s Great General level spear bombardment to postpone his own death, and claim with no evidence that he would eventually get the hang of it and actually be able to swing his Glaive for once? Lol

Even if Bananji would’ve somehow miraculously found a chance to actually swing his weapon (you know, the thing that is required for him to actually win the fight), Ouhon can easily deflect blows from Bananji caliber individuals as we saw when Ouhon deflected blows from Gyou’Un while also deflecting blows from Zhao’s ten best spear weirdest, simultaneously. Lol

Bananji fans are hysterical man. Literally there was a 0% chance of Bananji even being able to swing his weapon at Ouhon and they act like Bananji was perfectly fine against him or that Ouhon’s defeat was imminent or some shit lol.

Ouhon has huge advantages against Bananji: speed, skill, athleticism, martial knowledge and training, etc..

The only advantages Bananji has against Ouhon are brute strength (irrelevant when you can’t even swing your damn weapon) and experience. This fight is pecimisticly a mid diff for Hon Sama.

 

[Big Boiii]

And yet, you have no opinion of Bananji not even being able to swing his Glaive at Ouhon lol. “Ouhon couldn’t scratch Bananji!” Even though Ouhon literally did pierce through the armor on Bananji’s right shoulder, and while Bananji couldn’t even swing his damn weapon at Ouhon lol, let alone scratch him.

You completely disregard the fact that Bananji literally could not even reciprocate a fight against Ouhon, all he could do was desperately deflect Ouhon’s Great General level spear bombardment to postpone his own death, and claim with no evidence that he would eventually get the hang of it and actually be able to swing his Glaive for once? Lol

Even if Bananji would’ve somehow miraculously found a chance to actually swing his weapon (you know, the thing that is required for him to actually win the fight), Ouhon can easily deflect blows from Bananji caliber individuals as we saw when Ouhon deflected blows from Gyou’Un while also deflecting blows from Zhao’s ten best spear weirdest, simultaneously. Lol

Bananji fans are hysterical man. Literally there was a 0% chance of Bananji even being able to swing his weapon at Ouhon and they act like Bananji was perfectly fine against him or that Ouhon’s defeat was imminent or some shit lol.

Ouhon has huge advantages against Bananji: speed, skill, athleticism, martial knowledge and training, etc..

The only advantages Bananji has against Ouhon are brute strength (irrelevant when you can’t even swing your damn weapon) and experience. This fight is pecimisticly a mid diff for Hon Sama.

I already gave my opinion on that in the Bananji thread lol. Man's just needed more time. Hell only reason he bothered taking it to the ground was cause of time shortage since Akou was coming to help the young prince. Bananji had no experience against strong spear weilders, thus was on the defensive against a spearweilder who has experience against strong glaive users. Basically Ouhon had a matchup advantage and couldn't do shit to Bananji despite going all out.

When your opponent has no experience against your fighting style and is holding you off while you go all out and fail to deliver a single noteworthy blow that says more about you not being as strong than it does about your opponent being weaker than you. Cause once the homie gets used to your fighting style, it's gg for you.

 

[MarineHQ]

In their exchange (with weapons) Bananji was having problems with Ouhon's level of spearmanship and thought that, provided with time, he could have perhaps gotten the hang of it. Not the brightest of looks in my opinion. Then, since time was lacking, he employed his other fighting method but this didn't look good either to me since Ouhon ended up completely avoiding any damage from close combat but with his swords still on him while Bananji was disarmed there (and in fact he had a soldier give him his spear back).

This is what i don't get though. Bananji blocking full power thrusts of Ouhon despite never having seen a Top Tier spear wielder while not even suffering a scratch is exactly what made Bananji look so good.

- When Ouhon throws a barrage of continued full power thrusts = No damage
- When Bananji uses his unorthodox surprise attack = Dismounts and disarms Ouhon in one go.

It's quite clear to me who looked better tbh.

Ouhon's perfomace against Gyou’Un, someone I think is even stronger than Bananji, which was outstanding. While being in the conditions he was, he managed to land a crippling blow to Gyou’Un.

No way Shukai Plains Gyou'Un is above Bananji. Gyou'Un wasn't really all that anymore. He clearly got weaker. Couldn't finish off Ouhon with his death trap and most elite soldiers ganging up on him. Even in their 2v1 with Akou Bananji has done more damage and actually knocked Akou out.

Agreed. Ouhon is an elite. Even a better fight than Shin at times when you discount the ass pulls.
When you consider his tactical acumen and Martial prowess he is easily a better general in comparison to Mouten and Shin.
Could easily become someone like Souheikun

Absolutely. Shin's martial might plus instincts are nasty though but Ouhon is just too balanced. The kid can do everything. He's definitely the better General.

And yet, you have no opinion of Bananji not even being able to swing his Glaive at Ouhon lol. “Ouhon couldn’t scratch Bananji!” Even though Ouhon literally did pierce through the armor on Bananji’s right shoulder, and while Bananji couldn’t even swing his damn weapon at Ouhon lol, let alone scratch him.

He wasn't coming anywhere close damaging him though lol. Using his full power without doing jack shit makes Ouhon not look bad, it's just that Bananji is that good.

You completely disregard the fact that Bananji literally could not even reciprocate a fight against Ouhon, all he could do was desperately deflect Ouhon’s Great General level spear bombardment to postpone his own death, and claim with no evidence that he would eventually get the hang of it and actually be able to swing his Glaive for once? Lol

That's absolutely not what has happened. I think you've been saying that in the last debates as well. At no point was it portrayed like Bananji was anywhere close of losing the battle. Only blocking is also a strategy to win. Ouhon was fighting a losing battle. Would've tired from his constant full power barrage that has done nothing which would result in Bananji (who had to exert far less strength and stamina than Ouhon) to gain the upper hand. What do you expect a glaive wielder to do?
Jump around doing backflips?

Even if Bananji would’ve somehow miraculously found a chance to actually swing his weapon (you know, the thing that is required for him to actually win the fight), Ouhon can easily deflect blows from Bananji caliber individuals as we saw when Ouhon deflected blows from Gyou’Un while also deflecting blows from Zhao’s ten best spear weirdest, simultaneously. Lol

Ah Gyou'Un the guy that was outdone by Bananji in their 2v1 with Akou. Bananji is literally so strong he has to nerf himself to enjoy the fight. When Akou broke his armor he dragged the "Demon of Ganmon" out of him for a split second and knocked his ass out in one swing making Gyou'Un look like a real chump collecting the leftovers lol.

Bananji fans are hysterical man. Literally there was a 0% chance of Bananji even being able to swing his weapon at Ouhon and they act like Bananji was perfectly fine against him or that Ouhon’s defeat was imminent or some shit lol.

Ouhon has huge advantages against Bananji: speed, skill, athleticism, martial knowledge and training, etc..

The only advantages Bananji has against Ouhon are brute strength (irrelevant when you can’t even swing your damn weapon) and experience. This fight is pecimisticly a mid diff for Hon Sama.

Hon-sama stans didn't look so confident when his ass was thrown off the horse to the canvas with Ouhon grappling for his life just to be swatted to the side like a fodder before daddy Akou came in for the rescue just for Bananji to make him look bad despite being mounted and in full gallop.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Gyou'Un the guy that was outdone by Bananji in their 2v1 with Akou.

@Owl Ki you know, I knew I was going to regret making this thread, but I did it anyway. This one is on me tbh lol.

 

[MarineHQ]

@Owl Ki you know, I knew I was going to regret making this thread, but I did it anyway. This one is on me tbh lol.

Factos only. Should've realised Gyou'Un is a High diff at best for Base Bananji when he+his elite Rai'un couldn't take out Ouhon in like what? 11v1?

 

[Big Boiii]

@Owl Ki you know, I knew I was going to regret making this thread, but I did it anyway. This one is on me tbh lol.

😂😂

My boy not fucking with Bananji thread nomore

Post automatically merged: Jul 6, 2022

Isn't it already accepted Gyoun is stronger? I mean pretty of other generals have been stated to have the martial might of Renpa including one his 4 generals.
Anyone with 95+ strength rating could be given such hype in my opinion.

Kashibou, Ouki, Renpa, Gaimou (though it was bout the weight of his blow), Gyou'un (indirectly) , Bananji are the only ones. But that's not where Bananjis main hype is from.


Kaine has been part of all campaigns that have included Houken, correct? She saw Houken vs Ouki happening, she was there at the Coalition to witness Houken do his thing. She also knows Houken does his training shit and etc. She's also the only other character outside of Riboku, who knows of Bananjis all out Martial might.... So this Kaine during the last day of Shukai Plains states: "When Bananji is serious, noone can stop him." She does not say "no enemy can stop him", simply "noone". She's putting an all out Bananji as top1 for her.

The Xiongnu, who are the peak of mountain people. You remember those insane Quorang yea? They refer to the Xiongnu as "The Great Xiongnu". Those Xiongnu consider this man to be a demon due to his Martial Might. Closest thing Gyouun got is some old scrub under Akou calling Gyouun "inhumane".

Moubu the strongest man in China who's strength surpasses strategy, yea?
Bananjis might the moment he started to get remotely serious (didn't get fully serious as confirmed by the stat card), his Martial Might went be beyond the predictions of the person people hold as Qins best strategist.... Despite the knowledge of 13 days of Bananji fighting on the battlefield.

Hara also going out of his way to establish a non-serious Bananji being on par with Gyou'un. From their similar performance against Akou , to then giving them exact duplicate feats against fodders right after that 2vs1.


But if you were to ask in the wider kingdom fandom, you'd get Gyouun as the reply, similar to Ousen and Kanki being top 3 in China. lol

 

[Owl Ki]

@Owl Ki you know, I knew I was going to regret making this thread, but I did it anyway. This one is on me tbh lol.

I know. Bananji wank is the weirdest damn wank in the Kingdom fandom and I am convinced there is a Dark Magic cult that brainwashes folk involved with it. Lol. I already compared the performance of those two.

How on Earth did Bananji showcase his strength better than Gyou'un when he almost flat out died to a dead man's hand?

Spoiler: Chapter 559

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-559-page-14.html

1/2 an inch deeper and Bananji would have been leaking brain fluid all over the Shukai Plains.

So apart from getting his helmet shattered and his skull almost split open, every other time that Akou and Bananji fought, they were dead equal to each other.

Spoiler: Compilation time.

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-12.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-526-page-13.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-558-page-15.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-558-page-16.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-558-page-19.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-559-page-14.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-559-page-15.html

Bananji never once overpowered Akou by himself and he almost got flat out killed by him despite getting assistance from Gyou'un.

Gyou'un never got his helmet shattered, never got his skull almost split open and even got this bit of dialogue to hype him up over Akou.

Spoiler: Chapter 559

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-559-page-6.html

Compare that to what was said of Bananji vs Akou in the previous chapter.

Spoiler: Chapter 558

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Kingdom-chapter-558-page-16.html

Then I really do not see how Bananji got superior portrayal.

Gyou'un: Doesn't even take a scratch from Akou, overpowers him by himself as according to Akou's own subordinates.

Bananji: Consistently clashes evenly with Akou across multiple fights, is flat out stated to be even with him, nearly dies to Akou in a 2v1 fight with assistance, his helmet is shattered and he is also permanently scarred.

Bananji Bros: "Yup, Bananji looked better".

I swear at this point I could show a panel of Ouhon shoving his spear up Bananji's arse and the response would be "See! Bananji is clearly clenching his butt cheeks so hard that Ouhon can't remove his spear and is thus disarmed!!"

The weird thing is that even if Bananji is slightly stronger than Gyou'un, what does it even matter in regards to Bananji vs Ouhon when Ouhon has decisively proven himself Gyou'un's superior in martial prowess anyway?

Bananji nearly dies to Akou in a 2v1. Ouhon still managed to kill a dude and cripple Gyou'un's arm in an 11v1

Just... How does it help in the slightest? Lel.