Is Bleach Better than Kingdom?


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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Riboku will lose all of his hype as a Greatest of all China if he needs SBS to finish this army.

exactly.
Riboku will lose all hype for masterminding the deaths of Ouki, Gekishin, almost collapsing the entire state of Qin were it not for Sei pulling off a King Sho + level feat, being hyped as the most dangerous man in all of China by Renpa, stated to be the strongest General China had ever seen by Ouki, stated to br the strongest Great Heaven of all time by Gyou’Un,

Riboku will lose all of this hype if he decides to bring in Shibashou to solidify Kanki’s defeat…all because you will misinterpret Riboku’s use of overwhelming force against Kanki with “Riboku can’t defeat Kanki without Shibashou?” Lol

I mean, it’s easy to just type anything isn’t it? Mougou > Renpa, see this is easy.

If Hara gives Riboku even half of Li Mu’s hysterical hype at the fall of Zhao, I doubt even EOS Rishin will be able to solidly say he has achieved more than Riboku does lol.
 
Don't known Riboku can look bad. This arc he outplayed both Ousen and Shouheikun, put a Qin Six in such a desperate situation that he's literally trying to escape and the whole thing will end up as a huge defeat for Qin.

That being said, after this blow I expect some countermove from Ousen in the future. Who knows what those eyes see and what are the machinations inside that brain are.
 
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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
I think it's possible that Ousen will surpass Riboku this arc. We know that Riboku, historically, got executed by the Zhao royals after a plan devised by Qin. Ousen strikes me as very dangerous there...maybe Hara could make it some play devised by him.
Historically Qin had to cheat to beat Li Mu. The Zhao court was bribed by Qin to remove him, because even with all of Qin’s Generals attacking him at once, Zhao would not fall and the Qin court decided that Zhao would never fall as long ad Li Mu was alive.

Ousen is not surpassing that lol.
 
Historically Qin had to cheat to beat Li Mu. The Zhao court was bribed by Qin to remove him, because even with all of Qin’s Generals attacking him at once, Zhao would not fall and the Qin court decided that Zhao would never fall as long ad Li Mu was alive.

Ousen is not surpassing that lol.
Yeah I think it's also totally possible that Ousen doesn't surpass Riboku here, agreed. Though I definitely think he'll surpass him at some point in the future at least.
 
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Now its one hundred percent sure tha SBS is coming. Riboku is chilling there on top while everyone is panicking. I think Riboku used the huge numbers he had to chip-off Qin soldiers and keeping is core in reserve and also knew that Kanki would definitely be able to get out of this situation, so going to use SBS and Seika army to deliver final blow on Kanki.

I believe Riboku had first made Kanki overconfident (with successful withdrawal) and later going to use SBS to make lethal blow or sandwich them from both sides.
If Riboku still need SBS for this then make no sense to have army triple than enemy
After losing Houken, he lost confidence in himself. Lol
(Jk)
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Riboku will lose all hype for masterminding the deaths of Ouki, Gekishin, almost collapsing the entire state of Qin were it not for Sei pulling off a King Sho + level feat, being hyped as the most dangerous man in all of China by Renpa, stated to be the strongest General China had ever seen by Ouki, stated to br the strongest Great Heaven of all time by Gyou’Un,

Riboku will lose all of this hype if he decides to bring in Shibashou to solidify Kanki’s defeat…all because you will misinterpret Riboku’s use of overwhelming force against Kanki with “Riboku can’t defeat Kanki without Shibashou?” Lol

I mean, it’s easy to just type anything isn’t it? Mougou > Renpa, see this is easy.

If Hara gives Riboku even half of Li Mu’s hysterical hype at the fall of Zhao, I doubt even EOS Rishin will be able to solidly say he has achieved more than Riboku does lol.
funny you bring Gekishin. Gekishin almost had Riboku's head despite being in such a disadvantageous position where it not for Houken to come save his a**. Almost same goes for Ouki, he didn't outsmart Ouki he merely out-sped him. lol
Coalition was possible due to the influence of Chu Prime minister. He was also equally responsible for that army. He too saw the Qin's future intentions and made a move. even during Coalition, Duke almost had Riboku where it not for Houken, Again.
Historically he might be a Beast but as far as manga goes, he's isn;t much of a Greatest apart from few Great Generals calling him so.
 
The satisfaction of Hara pulling a 180 on fans and actually letting Kanki somehow prevail even with Shibashou's appearance would be legendary, lol. Mougou did say Qin's number one general at turning the tables was Kanki after all.

This setup is too obvious that i for first time ever want Kanki to tap into his inner power and break the Bayou curse.
 
I gotta love how Riboku is apparently a loser for making certain to secure his victories by having every card possible stacked in his favour but everybody else that makes use of strong subordinates is just fine.

Nobody dunks on Ousen for relying on Shin, Ouhon and Mouten to secure his victory at Shukai Plains but god forbid that Riboku uses martial beasts to do martial beast stuff. Lel.
 
I gotta love how Riboku is apparently a loser for making certain to secure his victories by having every card possible stacked in his favour but everybody else that makes use of strong subordinates is just fine.

Nobody dunks on Ousen for relying on Shin, Ouhon and Mouten to secure his victory at Shukai Plains but god forbid that Riboku uses martial beasts to do martial beast stuff. Lel.
But owlki Riboku pulled like 30 generals out of his ass since the start of the invasion :yasu:
 
I gotta love how Riboku is apparently a loser for making certain to secure his victories by having every card possible stacked in his favour but everybody else that makes use of strong subordinates is just fine.

Nobody dunks on Ousen for relying on Shin, Ouhon and Mouten to secure his victory at Shukai Plains but god forbid that Riboku uses martial beasts to do martial beast stuff. Lel.
Shin, ouhon and mouten were matching against the likes of Kisui ( a possible candidate of GH), Gyo Un, Chogaryuu and Bannaji. Whereas Riboku brought every single Generals under SBS to fight against one army.
 
Shin, ouhon and mouten were matching against the likes of Kisui ( a possible candidate of GH), Gyo Un, Chogaryuu and Bannaji. Whereas Riboku brought every single Generals under SBS to fight against one army.
Your point? Is a General supposed to arbitrarily make their army equal to the enemy army based on an unspoken gentlemen's agreement?

If you have more Generals than the enemy army and can freely bring them along without any repercussions, especially when the fate of your kingdom is at stake.....

Then why the feck wouldn't you do that?
 
Your point? Is a General supposed to arbitrarily make their army equal to the enemy army based on an unspoken gentlemen's agreement?

If you have more Generals than the enemy army and can freely bring them along without any repercussions, especially when the fate of your kingdom is at stake.....

Then why the feck wouldn't you do that?
My point being …
Nobody dunks on Ousen for relying on Shin, Ouhon and Mouten to secure his victory at Shukai Plains but god forbid that Riboku uses martial beasts to do martial beast stuff. Lel.
You were making it sound like Riboku brought only Kaine with him to fight against the mighty army of Ousen with GG likes Shin, ouhon and mouten.
 
My point being …

You were making it sound like Riboku brought only Kaine with him to fight against the mighty army of Ousen with GG likes Shin, ouhon and mouten.
....... Feckin what? No idea how you came to that conclusion.

Doesn't change the fact that it wasn't Ousen that saved the Left Wing, it was Mouten. It wasn't Ousen that came up with strategies to defeat the Right Wing, it was Ouhon and Shin. It wasn't Ousen that saved himself from Bananji, it was Ouhon and Mouten.

Nobody dunks on Ousen for relying on those three though.
 
....... Feckin what? No idea how you came to that conclusion.

Doesn't change the fact that it wasn't Ousen that saved the Left Wing, it was Mouten. It wasn't Ousen that came up with strategies to defeat the Right Wing, it was Ouhon and Shin. It wasn't Ousen that saved himself from Bananji, it was Ouhon and Mouten.

Nobody dunks on Ousen for relying on those three though.
It also Doesn’t changes the fact that without Riboku pulling his forces from the battle to save Gyou all those contributions of Shin and co. Would’ve meant no sh*t. And Gyou wouldn’t have needed saving if not for Ousen’s 12 dimensional checker move before the battle even begun. So… there’s that.
 
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