Character Discussion Rayleigh once again portrayed alongside the very strongest

#24
Sengoku already said they were the strongest pirate crew around , so rocks RHM> roger underlying
Roger ≈ Rocks
Roger's partner > most Captains and all underlings, Captain WB is different talk but Oda already mentioned both in the same breath, you don't have a leg to stand on.
The other Roger Pirates are obviously much weaker than anyone in the Rocks.
 
#25
Sengoku already said they were the strongest pirate crew around , so rocks RHM> roger underlying
The Rocks pirates had a shit ton of top tiers and/or future top tiers. WB, Big Mom, Kaido, Shiki, and several other notorious pirates according to Sengoku. There's nothing to indicate that anyone on the Roger Pirates besides Roger, Rayleigh and Oden were top tiers. There's also no indication that Roger's crew was so massively populated to make up for the Rocks Pirates having that many powerhouses.
 
#27
The Rocks pirates had a shit ton of top tiers and/or future top tiers. WB, Big Mom, Kaido, Shiki, and several other notorious pirates according to Sengoku. There's nothing to indicate that anyone on the Roger Pirates besides Roger, Rayleigh and Oden were top tiers. There's also no indication that Roger's crew was so massively populated to make up for the Rocks Pirates having that many powerhouses.
True, that is where Garp comes in to play to tip the scales. Garp + Roger pirates >Rocks pirates
 
#28
The Rocks pirates had a shit ton of top tiers and/or future top tiers. WB, Big Mom, Kaido, Shiki, and several other notorious pirates according to Sengoku. There's nothing to indicate that anyone on the Roger Pirates besides Roger, Rayleigh and Oden were top tiers. There's also no indication that Roger's crew was so massively populated to make up for the Rocks Pirates having that many powerhouses.
Oden wasn't with Roger when Rocks was defeated, at that time Roger and Ray were the strongest n°1 and 2. :myman:
 
#30
Well if roxs was strongest foe and wb=>or just =roger , roxs was stronger
The Rocks pirates had a shit ton of top tiers and/or future top tiers. WB, Big Mom, Kaido, Shiki, and several other notorious pirates according to Sengoku. There's nothing to indicate that anyone on the Roger Pirates besides Roger, Rayleigh and Oden were top tiers. There's also no indication that Roger's crew was so massively populated to make up for the Rocks Pirates having that many powerhouses.
Roger had Gaban also, and marines , roxs no.2>Ray
 
#33
What indication is there that Gaban was a top tier or even close to being one? And do we know that they had any marine besides Garp helping them?
Gaban and ray were close in strength , If ray was top tier then it should’ve been 3 top tiers vs just one in xebec , which should’ve been a ez low diff , but naw ray was fighting young beard most likely

Also lol garp literally had marines behind him
 
#35
Well if roxs was strongest foe and wb=>or just =roger , roxs was stronger

Roger had Gaban also, and marines , roxs no.2>Ray
Prime WB with the strongest DF was close to sick Roger. In one post you bring up young WB in another you compare a 39 yo WB with sick Roger, Rocks WB is not close to Roger.

Gaban and ray were close in strength
You love to make things up, sorry but Ray, WB, Rocks and Shanks are all in the same ballpark.
 
#36
Prime WB with the strongest DF was close to sick Roger. In one post you bring up young WB in another you compare a 39 yo WB with sick Roger, Rocks WB is not close to Roger.
even with the sickness crocus said he was in great shape , also no manga knowledge that said it affected his combat, just headcannon
You love to make things up, sorry but Ray, WB, Rocks and Shanks are all in the same ballpark.
Yeah sorry bud, oda said in a sbs old guys maintain their strength and ray was getting dogged by restricted kizaru he’s no where or nowhere portrayed to be on the same level.

Shanks and xebec aren’t on the same level, is shanks even above BM/kaido?
 
#37
even with the sickness crocus said he was in great shape , also no manga knowledge that said it affected his combat, just headcannon

Yeah sorry bud, oda said in a sbs old guys maintain their strength and ray was getting dogged by restricted kizaru he’s no where or nowhere portrayed to be on the same level.

Shanks and xebec aren’t on the same level, is shanks even above BM/kaido?
Your sauce on Gaban being on the same level as Rocks, WB and Shanks? Since he's close to Ray. Sauce of him being close to Ray too if you don't mind. Sauce on who tf Gaban even is. :myman:
Kizaru was holding back against a pirate that hasn't picked up a sword in 20 years and he didn't go after the Strawhats because?
Let's see, young WB is stronger than Ray, Gaban is close to Ray and now Ray isn't out of his prime and Kizaru was holding back, I see a pattern in your posts. :kobeha:
 
#38
Your sauce on Gaban being on the same level as Rocks, WB and Shanks? Since he's close to Ray. Sauce of him being close to Ray too if you don't mind.
Well I already said ray isn’t in rocks , wb level sadly. I’d give him the weakest yonko shanks though. Gaban is a good high or extreme diff fight for him.
Kizaru was holding back against a pirate that hasn't picked up a sword in 20 years and he didn't go after the Strawhats because?
In the beginning of sabody a casual kick from kizaru and said himself “he over did it” fast forward to marineford we see how destructive he can get, why would be be going all out on government territory? Civilians and ESPICALLY CD THERE.
Let's see, young WB is stronger than Ray, Gaban is close to Ray and now Ray isn't out of his prime and Kizaru was holding back
Yeah, cause I thought about it how could ray be close to his captain on that level yet the marines needed garp, other marines to still take the rox pirates down , ray is young wb level fr
, I see a pattern in your posts. :kobeha:
can’t go wrong , with the admirals
 
#39
Well I already said ray isn’t in rocks , wb level sadly. I’d give him the weakest yonko shanks though. Gaban is a good high or extreme diff fight for him.

In the beginning of sabody a casual kick from kizaru and said himself “he over did it” fast forward to marineford we see how destructive he can get, why would be be going all out on government territory? Civilians and ESPICALLY CD THERE.

Yeah, cause I thought about it how could ray be close to his captain on that level yet the marines needed garp, other marines to still take the rox pirates down , ray is young wb level fr

can’t go wrong , with the admirals
No sauce? It's like Coby's conqueror's haki, just trust me bro! :denzimote:
 
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