Break Week Kaido was wrong about Doffy

griffindidnuthinwrong

griffindidnuthinwrong

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Hello doffy fans after seeing how queen was just a gag character and nothing special. Are you all wondering what kaido was talking about?When he said doffy "was too weak" with a character like queen as his commander? how long do you think queen would have lasted vs 4th gear luffy?


When jack was first introduced i was like "yonko commanders are powerful". Jack did more to hype up the yonko commanders than king and queen did. Cracker was playing around with gear 4th luffy do you guys think queen coud have done the same?


Remember doffy was badly damaged when luffy was throwing him around. He fought and man handled law before fighting luffy. Law damaged his internal organs luffy was at a 100% while doffy wasn't.

So what the hell was kaido talking about?
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

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griffindidnuthinwrong said:
Hello doffy fans after seeing how queen was just a gag character and nothing special. Are you all wondering what kaido was talking about?When he said doffy "was too weak" with a character like queen as his commander? how long do you think queen would have lasted vs 4th gear luffy?


When jack was first introduced i was like "yonko commanders are powerful". Jack did more to hype up the yonko commanders than king and queen did. Cracker was playing around with gear 4th luffy do you guys think queen coud have done the same?


Remember doffy was badly damaged when luffy was throwing him around. He fought and man handled law before fighting luffy. Law damaged his internal organs luffy was at a 100% while doffy wasn't.

So what the hell was kaido talking about?
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Luffy was 100% ? Luffy himself stated that he is on equal terms with Doffy.

Did you forget about the beating Luffy was taking from Bellamy?



But yes, Doffy > Queen.

He is probably equal to FUJITORA in power. LOL

Doflamingo only feared Yonkous, which are the scariest things in the world according to Luffy, doflamingo has 2 portraits(about your courage) that people like to ignore:

1st - Ignore Aokiji and turn your back on him.
2nd - Kick Fujitora.
3rd - Claim to get rid of Fujitora.


Fearing Kaidou is one thing, that doesn't mean fearing everything else, damn Kaidou is raising islands to the sky, even I would be afraid.
 
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Kiiro

Kiiro

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Queen is stronger than Cracker, Cracker giving trouble to Luffy is due match-up and lack of versality of Luffy.

Cracker didn't really did much against Luffy rather than just stall.

Queen will handle Cracker easier than Luffy and ironically Luffy will handle Queen much easier that he did against Cracker.

While with Doffy, he is very balanced fighter as Katakuri, but stronger.

Doffy is admiral tier, against who wins or loses is a matter of match-ups, Intel, prep and opinions. IMO it is mostly 100% reasonable he defeats Fujitora. Against the others, it is debatable.
 
griffindidnuthinwrong

griffindidnuthinwrong

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Sasaki Kojirō said:
Did you forget about the beating Luffy was taking from Bellamy?
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Bellamy's punches couldn't hurt pre time skip luffy and the dressrosa bellamy hitting luffy felt like g4 luffy hitting kaido in their first fight.

Law was warlord level able to cut mountains in half you think bellamy can do damage to luffy like how law can do damage to doffy? remember law was able to hurt kaido
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Kiiro said:
Queen is stronger than Cracker, Cracker giving trouble to Luffy is due match-up and lack of versality of Luffy.
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queen will be destroyed by cracker. whatever method queen uses whether its versatility or whatever do you think queen will be able to handle g4 luffy?

Cracker could cut through g4 luffy haki even doffy with his strings could not. He had one of the strongest armament haki at that point in the manga
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Sasaki Kojirō said:
Fearing Kaidou is one thing, that doesn't mean fearing everything else, damn Kaidou is raising islands to the sky, even I would be afraid.
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i bet fujitora can lift up island too. I think doffy being afraid of kaido was just to hype kaido. Though it does make sense for doffy to be afraid of yonkos. One of their commanders only will destroy him not queen though,although i think like kaido in wano or other villain doffy was nerfed to make luffy look good. Remember how doffy could puppet control someone like jozu? the same jozu that took mihawks powerful attack?
 
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Kiiro

Kiiro

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griffindidnuthinwrong said:
Bellamy's punches couldn't hurt pre time skip luffy and the dressrosa bellamy hitting luffy felt like g4 luffy hitting kaido in their first fight.

Law was warlord level able to cut mountains in half you think bellamy can do damage to luffy like how law can do damage to doffy? remember law was able to hurt kaido
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queen will be destroyed by cracker. whatever method queen uses whether its versatility or whatever do you think queen will be able to handle g4 luffy?

Cracker could cut through g4 luffy haki even doffy with his strings could not. He had one of the strongest armament haki at that point in the manga
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i bet fujitora can lift up island too. I think doffy being afraid of kaido was just to hype kaido. Though it does make sense for doffy to be afraid of yonkos. One of their commanders only will destroy him not queen though,although i think like kaido in wano or other villain doffy was nerfed to make luffy look good. Remember how doffy could puppet control someone like jozu? the same jozu that took mihawks powerful attack?
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Cracker could cut his cheek with no haki lol. While he had a clean hit on his arm stretched and when it returned it was a simple cut which he never could do again in 11 hours.

Cracker will be able to damage Queen for sure, not win.

And Queen won't handle Gear 4, maybe Gear 3 is already enough.
 
LuffyTheGOAT

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- G4 Luffy wrecked Doffy in 10 mins
- G4 Luffy struggled against Cracker for hours
- Big Mom literally sent Cracker after hearing Luffy beat Doffy, so she was confident Cracker could handle someone on the level of Doffy
- Kaido literally sent Jack to retrieve Doffy from the marines, considering Doffy would have been executed for his failure, Kaido must have been confident in Jacks abilities to handle him.
-Kaido called Doffy weak and had no respect for him, he still had respect and faith in Jack's strength even after he was defeated by the Scabbards.
-Doffy got oneshotted by Aokiji, meanwhile plenty of Commanders have been able to at least tussle with Yonkos/Admirals

How much more evidence do you need before realizing Oda simply portrays the commanders on a higher level than Doffy?
 
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Desolate Smaug

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Sasaki Kojirō said:
Luffy was 100% ? Luffy himself stated that he is on equal terms with Doffy.

Did you forget about the beating Luffy was taking from Bellamy?



But yes, Doffy > Queen.

He is probably equal to FUJITORA in power. LOL

Doflamingo only feared Yonkous, which are the scariest things in the world according to Luffy, doflamingo has 2 portraits(about your courage) that people like to ignore:

1st - Ignore Aokiji and turn your back on him.
2nd - Kick Fujitora.
3rd - Claim to get rid of Fujitora.


Fearing Kaidou is one thing, that doesn't mean fearing everything else, damn Kaidou is raising islands to the sky, even I would be afraid.
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Plus actually man handling a top 3 YC plus having kings haki plus devil fruit awakening. Casual scaling should have him pretty high.
 
BillSlipton

BillSlipton

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griffindidnuthinwrong said:
Hello doffy fans after seeing how queen was just a gag character and nothing special. Are you all wondering what kaido was talking about?When he said doffy "was too weak" with a character like queen as his commander? how long do you think queen would have lasted vs 4th gear luffy?


When jack was first introduced i was like "yonko commanders are powerful". Jack did more to hype up the yonko commanders than king and queen did. Cracker was playing around with gear 4th luffy do you guys think queen coud have done the same?


Remember doffy was badly damaged when luffy was throwing him around. He fought and man handled law before fighting luffy. Law damaged his internal organs luffy was at a 100% while doffy wasn't.

So what the hell was kaido talking about?
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Queen negged base ryou udon luffy.
Doffy could never
 
Gear5PhoenixMan

Gear5PhoenixMan

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Chrono said:
Queen would casually eat G4 hits
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Yeah lets see him tank Gear 4 Ryou hits...
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Tobi said:
Doffy fans can only cling into overpowerscaling him since his relevancy is dead and non existent
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I don't care who anyone is a fan of you should be realistic and honest about their power level no matter what.

I can see Doffy beating anyone except Yonko, admirals, and Katakuri.
 
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JoNdule

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griffindidnuthinwrong said:
Hello doffy fans after seeing how queen was just a gag character and nothing special. Are you all wondering what kaido was talking about?When he said doffy "was too weak" with a character like queen as his commander? how long do you think queen would have lasted vs 4th gear luffy?


When jack was first introduced i was like "yonko commanders are powerful". Jack did more to hype up the yonko commanders than king and queen did. Cracker was playing around with gear 4th luffy do you guys think queen coud have done the same?


Remember doffy was badly damaged when luffy was throwing him around. He fought and man handled law before fighting luffy. Law damaged his internal organs luffy was at a 100% while doffy wasn't.

So what the hell was kaido talking about?
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He wasn't wrong
Doffy is a weakling

Where did you see luffy being 100% when the battle was 1v1?
 
Unlimited Rulebook

Unlimited Rulebook

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Doffy’s real power is his knowledge, scheming, and networking. In the grand scheme of things, Doffy is way beyond any YC and some admirals. The havoc he could wreck on the world is enormous. That is why he is in the lowest floor of Impel Down covered in seastone nearly equivalent to what was shackling BM and likely to be assassinated.
 
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