Break Week Kaido was wrong about Doffy

#62
Why would Luffy spend almost all his time in Gear 4 dodging Doffy's awakening, if Doffy's awakening couldn't hurt him?

because it would push back Luffy further away from Doffy. Just because he can't get hurt doesn't mean his body won't be pushed back by the force

We already saw that base Luffy's haki which was not fully back was blocking awakneing no problem until the haki ran out
 
#64
Kaido said Doffy was weak cause he got beat by Dressrosa Law and Luffy, versions of them that wouldn't be able to beat Kaido, and in losing to them, he screwed up Kaido's securing of smiles and being more prepared for a great war, so it's not surprising he has no respect for Doflamingo's strength when he's so much more superior in that regard. People can argue about his varying opinions on Jack, the Scabbards and Doflamingo but I think for the most part he is a bit biased and the context of the situations do matter.

I have Doflamingo as comparable to some Commanders (like Cracker) but not really standing with dudes like King or Katakuri. He's strong when we exclude top-tiers though even then he's not at the top.
 
#67
Hello doffy fans after seeing how queen was just a gag character and nothing special. Are you all wondering what kaido was talking about?When he said doffy "was too weak" with a character like queen as his commander? how long do you think queen would have lasted vs 4th gear luffy?


When jack was first introduced i was like "yonko commanders are powerful". Jack did more to hype up the yonko commanders than king and queen did. Cracker was playing around with gear 4th luffy do you guys think queen coud have done the same?


Remember doffy was badly damaged when luffy was throwing him around. He fought and man handled law before fighting luffy. Law damaged his internal organs luffy was at a 100% while doffy wasn't.

So what the hell was kaido talking about?
I think Kaido only cared that Doffly lost to someone meaning he was weaker than his opponents. Not is he weaker than his commanders or not.
 

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#68
Statements or no statements(which doesn’t help Mingo regardless), we've always had a direct comparison. Katakuri, Cracker and Mingo all fought the same guy within a week and all 3 have the same style of keeping the opponent away while avoiding hits.

Mingo by far is in last seeing how he can only stalemate Boundman, and it was Boundman that broke the stalemate by avoiding Mingo's best and getting hits in. Cracker easily held off Boundman and cut it's cheek without issue. He was in complete control. Katakuri goes without saying. Mingo needs G4 to wear off to win(aka he can't beat Boundman) while Cracker and Katakuri can win without the time limit.
 
#69
Statements or no statements(which doesn’t help Mingo regardless), we've always had a direct comparison. Katakuri, Cracker and Mingo all fought the same guy within a week and all 3 have the same style of keeping the opponent away while avoiding hits.

Mingo by far is in last seeing how he can only stalemate Boundman, and it was Boundman that broke the stalemate by avoiding Mingo's best and getting hits in. Cracker easily held off Boundman and cut it's cheek without issue. He was in complete control. Katakuri goes without saying. Mingo needs G4 to wear off to win(aka he can't beat Boundman) while Cracker and Katakuri can win without the time limit.
NOOOO, b-but what about the g-gamma knife?
 
#73
Kaido was always wrong.

One Piece characters have been proven to not know the power of their enemies until they fight them.

Example Law vs Vergo, Mihawk vs Blackbeard, Jimbei vs Moriah, Kaido vs supernovas, Cracker vs Luffy, Kaido sending Jack after Luffy and Law, Jack vs Minks, and so many more examples.

It is very vague their statements.
Indeed, imagine Moria's balls to think he could just happily walk into BB territory demanding shit even though some rookie completely destroyed him in his own territory two years ago.
:kayneshrug:
 
#76
"Doflamingo is such a formidable threat that Law suggested that if the pirate resigns from his position, Marine Headquarters will send their top fighters, the admirals, to capture him"
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It is very vague their statements.
i was refering to the fandom who were calling doffy weak cause kaido said so. Even though his commander was defeated by a guy who had trouble fighting doffy's underling or doffy himself.
 
#78
because it would push back Luffy further away from Doffy. Just because he can't get hurt doesn't mean his body won't be pushed back by the force

We already saw that base Luffy's haki which was not fully back was blocking awakneing no problem until the haki ran out
So Luffy moves away so he wouldn't be pushed away? You people are truly delusional.

Statements or no statements(which doesn’t help Mingo regardless), we've always had a direct comparison. Katakuri, Cracker and Mingo all fought the same guy within a week and all 3 have the same style of keeping the opponent away while avoiding hits.

Mingo by far is in last seeing how he can only stalemate Boundman, and it was Boundman that broke the stalemate by avoiding Mingo's best and getting hits in. Cracker easily held off Boundman and cut it's cheek without issue. He was in complete control. Katakuri goes without saying. Mingo needs G4 to wear off to win(aka he can't beat Boundman) while Cracker and Katakuri can win without the time limit.
Oh please shut the fuck up with this nonsense. This is like comparing Blueno to Crocodile.

Doffy was taken down by Luffy + Law. Only person to be defeated in a team with the Yonko.



 
#79
Statements or no statements(which doesn’t help Mingo regardless), we've always had a direct comparison. Katakuri, Cracker and Mingo all fought the same guy within a week and all 3 have the same style of keeping the opponent away while avoiding hits.

Mingo by far is in last seeing how he can only stalemate Boundman, and it was Boundman that broke the stalemate by avoiding Mingo's best and getting hits in. Cracker easily held off Boundman and cut it's cheek without issue. He was in complete control. Katakuri goes without saying. Mingo needs G4 to wear off to win(aka he can't beat Boundman) while Cracker and Katakuri can win without the time limit.
Not only that but we also have a Luffy who was stronger when he face Cracker and Katakuri(he even got a powerup with FS). So the Luffy who face Cracker was stronger than the one who face Doflamingo, meanwhile the Luffy against Katakuri was even far stronger than the one who faced Cracker.

Luffy(Katakuri lvl)>>Luffy(Cracker)>Luffy(Doflamingo).
So not only that Cracker got a statment who clearly implied that he is stronger then Doflamingo(why Big mom would send someone weaker than Doflamingo? Oda put this statement for a reason, to show that someone come for Luffy ass who was stronger than Doflamingo), but also Cracker fought a stronger Luffy version.

And he low diffed G2/G3 worse as what Doffy did. Against Boundman, Cracker was equal or even had a slighty upperhand, his haki was very impressive meanwhile Doffy haki is.... legit trash... Cracker was able to fight Boundman back, Doffy was clearly under that lvl, Oda show a growing of Luffy power based on facing stronger opponents. Doffy couldn't even damaged G4, hell his haki+awakening was weak to even cut base Luffy haki...

It is clear where we place Doffy around the ranking, behind Cracker, slighty above Perospero. Katakuri can legit low-mid diff Doffy. Same counts for King, while Queen/Cracker beats him high-extrem diff.

Katakuri>Queen>Cracker>Doflamingo=> Perospero/Jinbe>Snack=>WsW.
 
#80
Not only that but we also have a Luffy who was stronger when he face Cracker and Katakuri(he even got a powerup with FS). So the Luffy who face Cracker was stronger than the one who face Doflamingo, meanwhile the Luffy against Katakuri was even far stronger than the one who faced Cracker.

Luffy(Katakuri lvl)>>Luffy(Cracker)>Luffy(Doflamingo).
So not only that Cracker got a statment who clearly implied that he is stronger then Doflamingo(why Big mom would send someone weaker than Doflamingo? Oda put this statement for a reason, to show that someone come for Luffy ass who was stronger than Doflamingo), but also Cracker fought a stronger Luffy version.

And he low diffed G2/G3 worse as what Doffy did. Against Boundman, Cracker was equal or even had a slighty upperhand, his haki was very impressive meanwhile Doffy haki is.... legit trash... Cracker was able to fight Boundman back, Doffy was clearly under that lvl, Oda show a growing of Luffy power based on facing stronger opponents. Doffy couldn't even damaged G4, hell his haki+awakening was weak to even cut base Luffy haki...

It is clear where we place Doffy around the ranking, behind Cracker, slighty above Perospero. Katakuri can legit low-mid diff Doffy. Same counts for King, while Queen/Cracker beats him high-extrem diff.

Katakuri>Queen>Cracker>Doflamingo=> Perospero/Jinbe>Snack=>WsW.
How the fuck did you come to the conclusion that Kata and King would low diff Doffy but Queen and Cracker would need extreme diff?
 
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