Character Discussion Zoro's character is a walking contradiction

is Zoro a good character?

  • no

    Votes: 25 29.8%
  • yes

    Votes: 59 70.2%

  • Total voters
    84

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Pepebusi Spammer
#22
The whole Monet fight he was holding back against so much, that even Monet noticed that he never once tried to injure her
That's right, Zoro was holding back against her more, than when he fights fodder:


Because of that
Robin gets stabbed, children are in danger and Chopper & Nami almost get killed

We know Zoro can one shot her easily

Ye he doesn't because.... she's a woman?

which goes against his whole thing with Kuina


Then he proceeds to sit around while his crew is danger and needs help while time is running out:

And then the biggest wtf moment. Out of nowhere, he is fine with injuring Monet. Wtf was then the point of not trying to injure her before?
This guys has no consistent morals/code whatsoever:



Oh, then there's this goody:

"Take things seriously! This is the New World!"

Proceeds to:
  • hold back against Monet for no reason
  • sit around while his crew is in danger from poison gas, Monet
  • job to a fox
  • play around with Apoo while Chopper needs the antidote ASAP

Then there is this recent one where he is acknowledges that King's fighting style is just the way he fights best, and that Zoro will follow his example and would try to kill King by ripping his throat out with his teeth
....
just for later to complain that King doesn't use a sword to kill him. Apparently King needs to fight the way Zoro wants


In short:
This character is ass
pre time skip zoro is okay
post time skip is straight ass cheeks tier
 
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Herrera95

#23
What character development would you suggest for Zoro, post time skip?
He being consistent with his words would be good enough. Like this thread said taking things seriously. Unlike Sanji he has no problem fighting with women.
Really leading Samurais at Wano. Acting more like a vice captain.
 
#24
He being consistent with his words would be good enough. Like this thread said taking things seriously. Unlike Sanji he has no problem fighting with women.
Really leading Samurais at Wano. Acting more like a vice captain.
Agree with the Samurai part but then people would complain that Luffy is the chosen one and all his connections with Garp, Dragon, Shanks and Rayleigh and now Joyboy. We get Sanji who turns out to be a prince and now Zoro who becomes the leader of Samurai and might even be a Daimyo etc. Like the strawhats are a gathering of destined royalty.

About the VC part, I think Zoro never actively tries to do that part by himself and only takes control when there is no other option. I gave a good example of it in FI in the other thread, his convo about Kaido and his threat is another one of those type of instances. And I think any other moment like this would come at the cost of other crew members not being up to the task themselves. The time skip was for all of them to become more reliable and responsible. And I don't know about you guys but what Zoro did at the rooftop is to me what a VC should most probably have done, always having his captains back.

I think Zoro had no problem fighting women pre timeskip however we still have his comment about Robin being a woman so he is not that different from back then but then he did fight quite a few women around Alabasta (Baroque Works). I don't recall Zoro fighting other women. Zoro is not an all out Sanji guy who would never hit a women but he is also no brute who will actively fight a woman to hurt them. It is simple if he can finish his mission without having to hurt a woman then he will do no more than that but if it requires him to hurt one to complete his mission he will do so. I mean Zoro not once tried to go after BM on rooftop, Kaido was his focus, I think Law is the only one who targeted BM before them trying to separate the two Yonko. But it would not be out of character for Zoro to go at BM because she is a very strong individual. Zoro looks down on anybody weaker than him and pays them no mind unless they stand in his way.
 
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Cruxroux

#25
Lol imagine Sanji and luffy Threads not getting attention enough That they end up relying on the character they hate.
The whole Monet fight he was holding back against so much, that even Monet noticed that he never once tried to injure her
That's right, Zoro was holding back against her more, than when he fights fodder:


Because of that
Robin gets stabbed, children are in danger and Chopper & Nami almost get killed

We know Zoro can one shot her easily

Ye he doesn't because.... she's a woman?

which goes against his whole thing with Kuina


Then he proceeds to sit around while his crew is danger and needs help while time is running out:

And then the biggest wtf moment. Out of nowhere, he is fine with injuring Monet. Wtf was then the point of not trying to injure her before?
This guys has no consistent morals/code whatsoever:



Oh, then there's this goody:

"Take things seriously! This is the New World!"

Proceeds to:
  • hold back against Monet for no reason
  • sit around while his crew is in danger from poison gas, Monet
  • job to a fox
  • play around with Apoo while Chopper needs the antidote ASAP

Then there is this recent one where he is acknowledges that King's fighting style is just the way he fights best, and that Zoro will follow his example and would try to kill King by ripping his throat out with his teeth
....
just for later to complain that King doesn't use a sword to kill him. Apparently King needs to fight the way Zoro wants


In short:
This character is ass
This shit so Manipulating alllow me to break down your hardwork.
:milaugh:
This is gonna be fun.


You showed zoro resting scene first then Robin Getting stabbed.
But in reality Zoro didn't even engage with monet till then. He saw her from far

And Chorologically. Robin got stabbed first and zoro Took action immeidietly the very next panel by Enclosing the distance he was and saved them.
Here's the panel (Lol and stop cropping panel and look at what you want to watch not what is reality is)

Please have a look.

And he actually defended them both rather than sitting here's the panel.





TO burn your ass here two more panel for you.



and then this happened.


He saved them

and mine periodically correct unlike yours.
This is chapter 686 go have a read if you don't believe.



This panel she sunk herself into the snow and now whole room is her battlefield she can appear anywhere.
and not even your rubber boy had observation so great at this point that he can detect where she will be coming from.



She took them by suprise.

and for your information no one was hurt in this scene.



Zoro noticed this and went for them

and monet blocked their way out.

zoro cleaned a passage for them to escape , here's the panel for you.



And you say he ain't responsible lol.

Zoro always Went for her never backed down. And protected everyone over there.


Then comes chapter 687. Tashigi came with sanji and all. but all went and she stayed with zoro.
(lol even girl feels much safer around zoro than sanji)




Zoro clearly disagrees with her staying there and ask her to leave and he will take care of things.



This panel shows zoro threatening them both. and questions them that zoro can't cut womens due to reason rather zoro replied
"says WHo" clearly indicating he can.




This panel shows why zoro didn't kill tashigi giving his reasons.
he just can't stand that women consider them weaker in fact he believes them to be equal.

and tashigi made her own prejudices and monet got the same impression that zoro won't cut women but in fact he did.



Zoro clearly says he ain't joking around he will cut her.

and says his job was to protect others and keep her from leaving the room and that he did clearly.

This panel zoro even clearly saves tashigi and says time up. he can't afford to loose more time now.




You see that panel.
You have underestimated me woman
then this beautiful panel came up




DO you think zoro would ever say that thing to a woman if he were to consider them weak. he scared the shit out of her even before moving lol.

and this panel after the fight clearly shows zoro never intended to leave her in that state rather go for kill




and for your next claim.

"Take things seriously! This is the New World!"

Proceeds to:
  • hold back against Monet for no reason
  • sit around while his crew is in danger from poison gas, Monet
  • job to a fox
  • play around with Apoo while Chopper needs the antidote ASAP

He never held back against her.
sit around? he clearly said time up. can't waste anymore time I'm taking her down.
Job to a fox? lol yea this isn't even a complain just a random insult.

play around with apoo while chopper creates antidote manipulating again.
Dude he oneshotted apoo and gave chopper the antidote.
Except him no one was there to beat him. Xdrake is just a pushover.


and for the king part.
He said to kill him with a sword. He doesn't care how he fight's it's the way of his busihido to get killed by a sword. king could use any move which would have make him pass out and then just stab him with a knife or sword was more than enough and only thing he wanted.

Lol I enjoyed this so much.


and for take seriously thing only reason why your rubber boy alive at the moment. Zoro said take things seriously and never let your gaurd down. here's a few panel of zoro carrying luffy on rooftop or he would have died long back.

Dude you Sanji/luffy fan pr just zoro haters are so weak that you maniplate things to downplay zoro.
should Show luffy taking gear 5 than his dead body scene?
:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:
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#26
Lol imagine Sanji and luffy Threads not getting attention enough That they end up relying on the character they hate.

This shit so Manipulating alllow me to break down your hardwork.
:milaugh:
This is gonna be fun.


You showed zoro resting scene first then Robin Getting stabbed.
But in reality Zoro didn't even engage with monet till then. He saw her from far

And Chorologically. Robin got stabbed first and zoro Took action immeidietly the very next panel by Enclosing the distance he was and saved them.
Here's the panel (Lol and stop cropping panel and look at what you want to watch not what is reality is)

Please have a look.

And he actually defended them both rather than sitting here's the panel.





TO burn your ass here two more panel for you.



and then this happened.


He saved them

and mine periodically correct unlike yours.
This is chapter 686 go have a read if you don't believe.



This panel she sunk herself into the snow and now whole room is her battlefield she can appear anywhere.
and not even your rubber boy had observation so great at this point that he can detect where she will be coming from.



She took them by suprise.

and for your information no one was hurt in this scene.



Zoro noticed this and went for them

and monet blocked their way out.

zoro cleaned a passage for them to escape , here's the panel for you.



And you say he ain't responsible lol.

Zoro always Went for her never backed down. And protected everyone over there.


Then comes chapter 687. Tashigi came with sanji and all. but all went and she stayed with zoro.
(lol even girl feels much safer around zoro than sanji)




Zoro clearly disagrees with her staying there and ask her to leave and he will take care of things.



This panel shows zoro threatening them both. and questions them that zoro can't cut womens due to reason rather zoro replied
"says WHo" clearly indicating he can.




This panel shows why zoro didn't kill tashigi giving his reasons.
he just can't stand that women consider them weaker in fact he believes them to be equal.

and tashigi made her own prejudices and monet got the same impression that zoro won't cut women but in fact he did.



Zoro clearly says he ain't joking around he will cut her.

and says his job was to protect others and keep her from leaving the room and that he did clearly.

This panel zoro even clearly saves tashigi and says time up. he can't afford to loose more time now.




You see that panel.
You have underestimated me woman
then this beautiful panel came up




DO you think zoro would ever say that thing to a woman if he were to consider them weak. he scared the shit out of her even before moving lol.

and this panel after the fight clearly shows zoro never intended to leave her in that state rather go for kill




and for your next claim.

"Take things seriously! This is the New World!"

Proceeds to:
  • hold back against Monet for no reason
  • sit around while his crew is in danger from poison gas, Monet
  • job to a fox
  • play around with Apoo while Chopper needs the antidote ASAP

He never held back against her.
sit around? he clearly said time up. can't waste anymore time I'm taking her down.
Job to a fox? lol yea this isn't even a complain just a random insult.

play around with apoo while chopper creates antidote manipulating again.
Dude he oneshotted apoo and gave chopper the antidote.
Except him no one was there to beat him. Xdrake is just a pushover.


and for the king part.
He said to kill him with a sword. He doesn't care how he fight's it's the way of his busihido to get killed by a sword. king could use any move which would have make him pass out and then just stab him with a knife or sword was more than enough and only thing he wanted.

Lol I enjoyed this so much.


and for take seriously thing only reason why your rubber boy alive at the moment. Zoro said take things seriously and never let your gaurd down. here's a few panel of zoro carrying luffy on rooftop or he would have died long back.

Dude you Sanji/luffy fan pr just zoro haters are so weak that you maniplate things to downplay zoro.
should Show luffy taking gear 5 than his dead body scene?
:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:
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Hopefully this ends this thread over here. I have already Proved every point of yours wrong.
Story story. Zoro still cannot cut women. If it was a fodder man, he would have sliced him ages ago.
 
#32
Lol imagine Sanji and luffy Threads not getting attention enough That they end up relying on the character they hate.

This shit so Manipulating alllow me to break down your hardwork.
:milaugh:
This is gonna be fun.


You showed zoro resting scene first then Robin Getting stabbed.
But in reality Zoro didn't even engage with monet till then. He saw her from far

And Chorologically. Robin got stabbed first and zoro Took action immeidietly the very next panel by Enclosing the distance he was and saved them.
Here's the panel (Lol and stop cropping panel and look at what you want to watch not what is reality is)

Please have a look.

And he actually defended them both rather than sitting here's the panel.





TO burn your ass here two more panel for you.



and then this happened.


He saved them

and mine periodically correct unlike yours.
This is chapter 686 go have a read if you don't believe.



This panel she sunk herself into the snow and now whole room is her battlefield she can appear anywhere.
and not even your rubber boy had observation so great at this point that he can detect where she will be coming from.



She took them by suprise.

and for your information no one was hurt in this scene.



Zoro noticed this and went for them

and monet blocked their way out.

zoro cleaned a passage for them to escape , here's the panel for you.



And you say he ain't responsible lol.

Zoro always Went for her never backed down. And protected everyone over there.


Then comes chapter 687. Tashigi came with sanji and all. but all went and she stayed with zoro.
(lol even girl feels much safer around zoro than sanji)




Zoro clearly disagrees with her staying there and ask her to leave and he will take care of things.



This panel shows zoro threatening them both. and questions them that zoro can't cut womens due to reason rather zoro replied
"says WHo" clearly indicating he can.




This panel shows why zoro didn't kill tashigi giving his reasons.
he just can't stand that women consider them weaker in fact he believes them to be equal.

and tashigi made her own prejudices and monet got the same impression that zoro won't cut women but in fact he did.



Zoro clearly says he ain't joking around he will cut her.

and says his job was to protect others and keep her from leaving the room and that he did clearly.

This panel zoro even clearly saves tashigi and says time up. he can't afford to loose more time now.




You see that panel.
You have underestimated me woman
then this beautiful panel came up




DO you think zoro would ever say that thing to a woman if he were to consider them weak. he scared the shit out of her even before moving lol.

and this panel after the fight clearly shows zoro never intended to leave her in that state rather go for kill




and for your next claim.

"Take things seriously! This is the New World!"

Proceeds to:
  • hold back against Monet for no reason
  • sit around while his crew is in danger from poison gas, Monet
  • job to a fox
  • play around with Apoo while Chopper needs the antidote ASAP

He never held back against her.
sit around? he clearly said time up. can't waste anymore time I'm taking her down.
Job to a fox? lol yea this isn't even a complain just a random insult.

play around with apoo while chopper creates antidote manipulating again.
Dude he oneshotted apoo and gave chopper the antidote.
Except him no one was there to beat him. Xdrake is just a pushover.


and for the king part.
He said to kill him with a sword. He doesn't care how he fight's it's the way of his busihido to get killed by a sword. king could use any move which would have make him pass out and then just stab him with a knife or sword was more than enough and only thing he wanted.

Lol I enjoyed this so much.


and for take seriously thing only reason why your rubber boy alive at the moment. Zoro said take things seriously and never let your gaurd down. here's a few panel of zoro carrying luffy on rooftop or he would have died long back.

Dude you Sanji/luffy fan pr just zoro haters are so weak that you maniplate things to downplay zoro.
should Show luffy taking gear 5 than his dead body scene?
:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:
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Hopefully this ends this thread over here. I have already Proved every point of yours wrong.
Why don't you just answer the question as to why Zoro never tried injuring Monet? Why didn't he one shot her from the start?
Why did he treat her nicer than fodder who are also weak but he strikes them down from the get go.

Strawhats wouldn't have been in danger if Zoro beat Monet from the start, no?
He never held back against her.
How about you read the panel that was posted?

sit around? he clearly said time up. can't waste anymore time I'm taking her down
What about the time, you know, he sat around? Why are you cutting to the time where he gets up from his sitting around?
Job to a fox? lol yea this isn't even a complain just a random insult
But he did job to a weak fox and was even outrun by it, no?
Dude he oneshotted apoo and gave chopper the antidote.
After the whole Kiku' arm thing fell down and he realized that it's serious.
Up until then he was running around, while Chopper needed the medicine as fast as possible
and for the king part.
He said to kill him with a sword. He doesn't care how he fight's it's the way of his busihido to get killed by a sword
Zoro himself agreed with King and said that he would be killing King with his teeth if he has to, which means you just pulled this bullshit excuse out of your ass

king could use any move which would have make him pass out and then just stab him with a knife or sword was more than enough and only thing he wanted.
Once again, you just made this shit up.
 
C

Cruxroux

#33
Why don't you just answer the question as to why Zoro never tried injuring Monet? Why didn't he one shot her from the start?
Why did he treat her nicer than fodder who are also weak but he strikes them down from the get go.

Strawhats wouldn't have been in danger if Zoro beat Monet from the start, no?

How about you read the panel that was posted?


What about the time, you know, he sat around? Why are you cutting to the time where he gets up from his sitting around?

But he did job to a weak fox and was even outrun by it, no?

After the whole Kiku' arm thing fell down and he realized that it's serious.
Up until then he was running around, while Chopper needed the medicine as fast as possible

Zoro himself agreed with King and said that he would be killing King with his teeth if he has to, which means you just pulled this bullshit excuse out of your ass


Once again, you just made this shit up.
 
#35
Lol imagine Sanji and luffy Threads not getting attention enough That they end up relying on the character they hate.

This shit so Manipulating alllow me to break down your hardwork.
:milaugh:
This is gonna be fun.


You showed zoro resting scene first then Robin Getting stabbed.
But in reality Zoro didn't even engage with monet till then. He saw her from far

And Chorologically. Robin got stabbed first and zoro Took action immeidietly the very next panel by Enclosing the distance he was and saved them.
Here's the panel (Lol and stop cropping panel and look at what you want to watch not what is reality is)

Please have a look.

And he actually defended them both rather than sitting here's the panel.





TO burn your ass here two more panel for you.



and then this happened.


He saved them

and mine periodically correct unlike yours.
This is chapter 686 go have a read if you don't believe.



This panel she sunk herself into the snow and now whole room is her battlefield she can appear anywhere.
and not even your rubber boy had observation so great at this point that he can detect where she will be coming from.



She took them by suprise.

and for your information no one was hurt in this scene.



Zoro noticed this and went for them

and monet blocked their way out.

zoro cleaned a passage for them to escape , here's the panel for you.



And you say he ain't responsible lol.

Zoro always Went for her never backed down. And protected everyone over there.


Then comes chapter 687. Tashigi came with sanji and all. but all went and she stayed with zoro.
(lol even girl feels much safer around zoro than sanji)




Zoro clearly disagrees with her staying there and ask her to leave and he will take care of things.



This panel shows zoro threatening them both. and questions them that zoro can't cut womens due to reason rather zoro replied
"says WHo" clearly indicating he can.




This panel shows why zoro didn't kill tashigi giving his reasons.
he just can't stand that women consider them weaker in fact he believes them to be equal.

and tashigi made her own prejudices and monet got the same impression that zoro won't cut women but in fact he did.



Zoro clearly says he ain't joking around he will cut her.

and says his job was to protect others and keep her from leaving the room and that he did clearly.

This panel zoro even clearly saves tashigi and says time up. he can't afford to loose more time now.




You see that panel.
You have underestimated me woman
then this beautiful panel came up




DO you think zoro would ever say that thing to a woman if he were to consider them weak. he scared the shit out of her even before moving lol.

and this panel after the fight clearly shows zoro never intended to leave her in that state rather go for kill




and for your next claim.

"Take things seriously! This is the New World!"

Proceeds to:
  • hold back against Monet for no reason
  • sit around while his crew is in danger from poison gas, Monet
  • job to a fox
  • play around with Apoo while Chopper needs the antidote ASAP

He never held back against her.
sit around? he clearly said time up. can't waste anymore time I'm taking her down.
Job to a fox? lol yea this isn't even a complain just a random insult.

play around with apoo while chopper creates antidote manipulating again.
Dude he oneshotted apoo and gave chopper the antidote.
Except him no one was there to beat him. Xdrake is just a pushover.


and for the king part.
He said to kill him with a sword. He doesn't care how he fight's it's the way of his busihido to get killed by a sword. king could use any move which would have make him pass out and then just stab him with a knife or sword was more than enough and only thing he wanted.

Lol I enjoyed this so much.


and for take seriously thing only reason why your rubber boy alive at the moment. Zoro said take things seriously and never let your gaurd down. here's a few panel of zoro carrying luffy on rooftop or he would have died long back.

Dude you Sanji/luffy fan pr just zoro haters are so weak that you maniplate things to downplay zoro.
should Show luffy taking gear 5 than his dead body scene?
:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:
Post automatically merged:

Hopefully this ends this thread over here. I have already Proved every point of yours wrong.
damn thats just straight up murder for this troll
 
#39
People Who can't read the manga have this misconception of Zoro being more useful than Sanji because according to them Sanji's code puts the crew to danger, when Sanji Is actually the One Who saved the crew more times.
People say "zoro Is badass, Zoro Tells Luffy to take thing seriously"
Or "Zoro Is badass, he's willing to do anything to beat his opponent, not like Sanji Who doesn't use hands bla bla"
And at the same time they Say "Zoro Is cool, he has this Honor based code, a proud Warrior with Honor."

You Just pointed out how much of a clown Zoro truly Is, Honor doesn't exist in Battle, King should have killed him from distance.
 
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