I think it's fine to criticise Zoro's stance on women and him being a bit hypocritical or atleast inconsistent but it doesn't devalue the character as a whole in my opinion. His dream to be World's Strongest Swordsman is also just fine, he came to the land of the samurai and proved himself superior to all of the Scabbards, even gaining Kaido's acknowledgement (though of course he came short of his stated desires but failure isn't the same as him being a bad character). Mihawk's World's Strongest Swordsman, downplaying his opponent doesn't invalidate Zoro's dreams since you can simply downplay any potential foes but the story made clear long ago, Mihawk's his goal and he'll surpass him.
Zoro's a fine character. People are just criticising specific instances and acting like that devalues everything else about the guy (overlooking that you can do this for any character and it frequently happens). From how hard he works to attain his dream and make sure Luffy attains his, to his and Sanji's pretty good understanding of each other despite all the bickering to his relationship with the rest of the crew.
One of my favourite lines of his and I'm not sure if it's the right translation but i don't mind is "If I die here I wasn't worth much to begin with," against Kuma. His mindest is an inspiration for real despite my issues with post-timeskip Zoro (Wano's been good for him though).
The arrogance of those who believe that if people just listened to them, they would not disagree is stifling. I read your overwrought post. I like how you overlooked Zoro, after saying he would cut her...didn't, and Tashigi had to finish the job.
"What was the meaning of that? After all that, you still didn't finish her off!!"
"She's a woman."
I don't find anything wrong in his attitude, but bending reality to pretend it isn't there is so freaking dishonest.
Lol imagine Sanji and luffy Threads not getting attention enough That they end up relying on the character they hate.
This shit so Manipulating alllow me to break down your hardwork.
This is gonna be fun.
You showed zoro resting scene first then Robin Getting stabbed.
But in reality Zoro didn't even engage with monet till then. He saw her from far
And Chorologically. Robin got stabbed first and zoro Took action immeidietly the very next panel by Enclosing the distance he was and saved them.
Here's the panel (Lol and stop cropping panel and look at what you want to watch not what is reality is)
Please have a look.
And he actually defended them both rather than sitting here's the panel.
TO burn your ass here two more panel for you.
and then this happened.
He saved them
and mine periodically correct unlike yours.
This is chapter 686 go have a read if you don't believe.
This panel she sunk herself into the snow and now whole room is her battlefield she can appear anywhere.
and not even your rubber boy had observation so great at this point that he can detect where she will be coming from.
She took them by suprise.
and for your information no one was hurt in this scene.
Zoro noticed this and went for them
and monet blocked their way out.
zoro cleaned a passage for them to escape , here's the panel for you.
And you say he ain't responsible lol.
Zoro always Went for her never backed down. And protected everyone over there.
Then comes chapter 687. Tashigi came with sanji and all. but all went and she stayed with zoro.
(lol even girl feels much safer around zoro than sanji)
Zoro clearly disagrees with her staying there and ask her to leave and he will take care of things.
This panel shows zoro threatening them both. and questions them that zoro can't cut womens due to reason rather zoro replied
"says WHo" clearly indicating he can.
This panel shows why zoro didn't kill tashigi giving his reasons.
he just can't stand that women consider them weaker in fact he believes them to be equal.
and tashigi made her own prejudices and monet got the same impression that zoro won't cut women but in fact he did.
Zoro clearly says he ain't joking around he will cut her.
and says his job was to protect others and keep her from leaving the room and that he did clearly.
This panel zoro even clearly saves tashigi and says time up. he can't afford to loose more time now.
You see that panel.
You have underestimated me woman
then this beautiful panel came up
DO you think zoro would ever say that thing to a woman if he were to consider them weak. he scared the shit out of her even before moving lol.
and this panel after the fight clearly shows zoro never intended to leave her in that state rather go for kill
and for your next claim.
"Take things seriously! This is the New World!"
Proceeds to:
hold back against Monet for no reason
sit around while his crew is in danger from poison gas, Monet
job to a fox
play around with Apoo while Chopper needs the antidote ASAP
He never held back against her.
sit around? he clearly said time up. can't waste anymore time I'm taking her down.
Job to a fox? lol yea this isn't even a complain just a random insult.
play around with apoo while chopper creates antidote manipulating again.
Dude he oneshotted apoo and gave chopper the antidote.
Except him no one was there to beat him. Xdrake is just a pushover.
and for the king part.
He said to kill him with a sword. He doesn't care how he fight's it's the way of his busihido to get killed by a sword. king could use any move which would have make him pass out and then just stab him with a knife or sword was more than enough and only thing he wanted.
Lol I enjoyed this so much.
and for take seriously thing only reason why your rubber boy alive at the moment. Zoro said take things seriously and never let your gaurd down. here's a few panel of zoro carrying luffy on rooftop or he would have died long back.
Dude you Sanji/luffy fan pr just zoro haters are so weak that you maniplate things to downplay zoro.
should Show luffy taking gear 5 than his dead body scene?
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Hopefully this ends this thread over here. I have already Proved every point of yours wrong.
Imagine liking a character who preys on underage girls, molests his own crewmates, go back from his own motto, a character whose entire existence is developed on being a thirsty retarded being
Imagine liking a character who preys on underage girls, molests his own crewmates, go back from his own motto, a character whose entire existence is developed on being a thirsty retarded being
The same Monet who ragdoll Luffy was no threat to Zoro
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Imagine liking a character who preys on underage girls, molests his own crewmates, go back from his own motto, a character whose entire existence is developed on being a thirsty retarded being
Never happens. Sanji would rather die than go back on his own motto. Underage girls? Never in the story. And he's far from the most problematic man on the crew. *Stares at Brook and Cyborg 'Sexual Assaulter' Franky*
Oda should have avoided the Monet situation because either Zoro cuts a woman which looks bad for such a clean cut moral character, or he looks like he's not taking the situation seriously.
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