Spoiler One Piece Chapter 976 Spoilers Discussion

[MonsterZoro]

is that really all of the dialogues though?
or is there still more?

Looks like all of it but not sure

 

[Rivaille]

How much time?
BM sends enraged army or cracker just shortly after a huge incident
It literally says Cracker and enraged army was sent when Snack fell, there wasnt much time just like when cracker fell, there wasnt mich time for Urouge to recover that's why even when we see him with Kaido, he is still bandaged.
Enraged army beat weakened luffy and Nami, cracker beat Weakened Urouge.

There will be no cake without Chiffon belp
No plan without firetanks

Untilamtely Zoro is yet to accomplish something huge in NW, While Kidd will have his name famous after Wano.
WSS? It is nothing compared to being great Pirate and way less than PK

So Urouge and his whole crew did less or even than Luffy and Nami and this is not a proof of failure on Urouge part? If Luffy and the whole crew were facing Snack and then Cracker do you think they would lose to Cracker?

The cake plan was Pudding’s one and Sanji was doing most the work. The other people were (chiffon and Pudding includes) were just following his lead. He even save Chiffon from Oven.

What do you want to argue here? That Kidd will accomplish his dream?
Because you know he will not. Therefore as i said Kidd will fail where Luffy and Zoro will succeed.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

deep down inside she also wants to be pk and was willing to eliminate germa to do so
good or not
she has to be taken down.

 

[Buusatan94]

So basically you dont actually have an argument outside of "I dont like it cuz its not what I wanted"

The only difference between BB then and when he became a yonko was having the quake fruit. He would still have been fodderized
WCI is twice as long as Marineford and the only time Big Mom even bled was when she scratched her knee after Caramel's picture was broken. That speaks volumes to her portrayal.
Being captured speaks for itself, either he was too weak to evade capture or outsmarted. Either way doesnt paint the best picture for him.

Big Mom has the mind of a child. She's a grown adult with the dream to make everyone big so they can physically see eye to eye on a table. That's equality to her. She never got over the trauma that she received when she was 5 so she didnt "turn" into a good person. That's who she is deep down inside.

I suspect that her character arc cannot end without her Learning about what really happened to MC and to Streusen and maybe to return to what her personnality would have been without them. O-Lin may have been a teaser.

 

[JerAx]

What's going on here, the biggest Big mom defenders are turning on her


What have you done Oda

so like year of sanji?

 

[dirtyLarry]

What's going on here, the biggest Big mom defenders are turning on her


What have you done Oda

Hey, there's always the time and place for a proper heel turn ;-)

In all fairness, it's more like accepting that Oda has butchered her character and storyline. As a character I still believe she could've been a great villain.
Like I said earlier: Unfortunately Oda is no Togashi or Araki in terms of character development (especially villains) though.

 

[MarineHQ]

I've said this for quite some time now.

Big mom will get knocked on her head so hard that she'll permanently revert back to her true O-Lin self, and then chopper cures her illness.

 

[Patryipe]

Plot device to help free Luffy from the prison, if it wasn't for that whole O-Lin stuff I would have maybe enjoyed Act 2 a bit more.

Kaido's men could have found her on the beach and brought her to Onigashima, then Kaido could have summoned Queen to announce the BM-BP alliance, Luffy could have remained in prison training and ultimately Raizo could have found the keys to free him. Done. Much better.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

deep down inside she also wants to be pk and was willing to eliminate germa to do so
good or not
she has to be taken down.

She wants to be PK because she thinks it is a necessary step to fulfill Carmel´s supposed dream of a nation for every race.
Once she learns teh truth, any reason for becoming PK is lost.

 

[Hiragaro]

I don't know, something is fishy about jimbei
Edit: No pun intended.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

What's going on here, the biggest Big mom defenders are turning on her


What have you done Oda

Era of Admirals is coming

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

She wants to be PK because she thinks it is a necessary step to fulfill Carmel´s supposed dream of a nation for every race.
Once she learns teh truth, any reason for becoming PK is lost.

Did she actually explain why she wants to be pk?
cant recall.

 

[Akai2]

I don't know, something is fishy about jimbei

Son of a....you stole my thunder. I was preparing a theory about that but was waiting for the full chapter to see if there are hints about this not being the "real" Jinbei

 

[dirtyLarry]

while we are at it just tell, whom he should kill....Oda should know which one is "relevant" or "irrelevant"....if it is difficult to point out, just put the list of characters that are "relevant" in your eyes...

Relevant characters are guys that actually mean something to the SHs. Not side characters that were introduced 30 chapters before their death, got very little screen time and where half the crew had already forgotten about their death two or three chapters later.

 

[Nvax]

Big Mom is a great villain. Would be happy to see why she isnt outside of "expectations" and headcannons

 

[Chrono]

Did something happen to Big Meme ?

 

[dirtyLarry]

Did something happen to Big Meme ?

Hey, don't get me started seeing Chrollo in your sign. Only makes me remember gems like the Yorknew arc and compare it to the stuff we're probably getting in OP this week ...

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Hey, don't get me started seeing Chrollo in your sign. Only makes me remember gems like the Yorknew arc and compare it to the stuff we're probably getting in OP this week ...

you are usually optimistic about op
what changed

was it the fish?

 

[MonsterZoro]

Son of a....you stole my thunder. I was preparing a theory about that but was waiting for the full chapter to see if there are hints about this not being the "real" Jinbei

He meant that jinbei is a fish man that’s why he smells fishy

 

[Shura]

Relevant characters are guys that actually mean something to the SHs. Not side characters that were introduced 30 chapters before their death, got very little screen time and where half the crew had already forgotten about their death two or three chapters later.

Nah....just please make it simple.....directly put names....
Also, never thought you count time based on "no of chapters" or you need one chapter or more for mourning for pedro???........did someone hack your account??