Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1054 Spoilers Discussion

[MarineHQ]

Ok now what's on that paper? I can't fucking read that and don't understand this emote

It says " Kaido dying to Magma confirms Akainu negs" signed up by Lolda, Oda's brother.

 

[Indigo]

It also would serve the story. Their relationship definitely needs to be explored (i.e. probably regarding Luffy's mother and Dragon's relationship to Garp).

Plus, I feel like Garp doesn't have any contemporaries to really fight anymore of he doesn't fight Luffy or against the Marines. Dragon is honestly perfect for that.

Doesn't even need to be a full fight

just a small clash

maybe Dragon can convince Garp to finally go against the Marines

after he didn't do anything to try and save Ace, maybe Garp will do it for Luffy or something

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I think this quote from Oda is distracting you guys from the core criticism of Gear 5: that it’s introduction and existence in the manga as the Nika fruit is insultingly stupid from a writing perspective.

The Gorosei should have known that Luffy had the Nika fruit for two years now, and yet they sent literally no one to take his ass out and reclaim the fruit. They could’ve had a CP-0 agent covertly assassinate him so as to not cause trouble, but no, they just let this 17 year old kid amass power to become a Yonko level threat without ever sending anyone to deal with him. But I guess CP-0 jerking off in the New World was an important enough reason to not send them to claim the 800 year prophecy fruit. Lol

Nika is also really lazy because we have no idea what Nika is or what it’s powers are, so Oda can literally just make dumbass powers up on the spot as the plot demands it. Gone are the days of Oda masterfully introducing a powerup with established rules and limits that must be obeyed to add tension to the fight: now here’s the Fairy God fruit which has unlimited power and can do anything the plot demands.

The criticism around Fairy Shit form was never how ridiculous it looked. One Piece has always been ridiculous. The criticisms are how it’s existence is clearly a gaping plot hole in the series, and it’s by far the laziest powerup Oda has ever introduced.

Lol it was kind of clear it was a special fruit if you actually thought deeply about it for a sec. Why would Shanks, who has a no-df crew, want to take a random fruit that only lets you become rubbery? There's seemingly more useful and powerful fruits in general. Now it all makes sense. And they didn't do much about him despite him having a fruit because raising awareness to the fact that his fruit is sacred will attract fruit hungry rats ( I.E Blackbeard ) plus even if they got the fruit back who knows if someone just steals it again? A yonko already took it once and I don't think a yonko would be scared to take it again especially considering how valuable it is when awakened. Also, Nika already looked a bit flexible and rubbery in the silhouette, it makes sense that the god that the fruit was based off might actually be some rubbery deity who's extremely flexible and able to do anything in combat. after all that's why a god is a god, they can do anything.

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

I love G5 and hearing Oda's thought process makes it even better for me personally. Just hopefully he doesn't completely take away Luffy's ability to be serious or mad in certain situations. As that's one of the best aspects of Luffy's character, that he is completely lackadaisical 99% of the time but when he needs to be his personality will switch on a dime.

Do you realize that now every fight climax will turn in to a laughing BS now?

 

[blackjack]

Zoro fans please dont take this literally seriously.

 

[MarineHQ]

Imagine not bring able to see that BB is the final villain when he is literally the MC but does things in the opposite way

Nobody ever denied that, though, Imu is more important to the lore.

 

[Soyz]

Only way it happens is if Akainu folds him so that Luffy can save his brother this time around

Yay akainu vs ace 2.0 just now luffy isn't hopeless and can defend himself

 

[Indigo]

Imagine not bring able to see that BB is the final villain when he is literally the MC but does things in the opposite way

I'm hoping Blackbeard is the final villain

i hate the Im, Akainu and Rocks theories

maybe evil Shanks could be an option

 

[Peroroncino]

Nobody ever denied that, though, Imu is more important to the lore.

BB is probably killing imu himself lol

 

[Ballel]

It says " Kaido dying to Magma confirms Akainu negs" signed up by Lolda, Oda's brother.

 

[MarineHQ]

BB is probably killing imu himself lol

Great. Akainu moves up a spot lmao

 

[KonyaruIchi]

I mean… let’s look at modern shonen like Demon Slayer and My Hero Academia which got super edgy.

And both really went off the deep end the closer they get to their ending. Seriousness is fine, in fact I welcome it if it's a really important fight, but it's true a lot of mangas really become too edgy for their own good and they just end up mid or straight up trash because of it. Some levity is good, that's what made pre-TS OP so great, all the comedy and interactions between the SHs while also being able to use seriousness in major situations, imo

 

[Doggo]

As a Zoro fan, i kinda feel bad lmao

Because Oda is saying this is the type of fight he likes now, the goofy stuff, and that he doesn't have fun making serious fights anymore

so maybe Oda really didn't enjoy making Zoro vs King, considering how edgy and serious it was, compared to the other fights

There was only the King pulling his head gag, that one was golden

I wonder if that's why he has been avoiding Zoro more these past few years, he got tired of the serious fighting style Zoro has

and look how he tried to get around that but having Zoro fight Pika for example, that was a complete goof

 

[Peroroncino]

Great. Akainu moves up a spot lmao

He will be dead by sabo by that point

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Can someone invite pepetogoat to this forum so he can post the pics here

 

[Monkey D Al]

Also why are people saying the fights were extremely serious before? Allow me to introduce:
Water Luffy
afro Luffy
Tank man Luffy
Baka Luffy ( when he turned off his brain against Enel)
Etc

Baka Luffy never returned because he was just too OP

 

[Indigo]

read the next fucking line of that comment you quoted and bolded, jesus

 

[MarineHQ]

He will be dead by sabo by that point

They all can come, Akainu takes care of them all.

 

[Indigo]

Can someone invite pepetogoat to this forum so he can post the pics here

can't you? you're an admin now lol

 

[Ballel]

I'm hoping Blackbeard is the final villain

i hate the Im, Akainu and Rocks theories

maybe evil Shanks could be an option

I don't see Shanks as an actual villain, more as a stepping stone, the factor that was necessary to make destiny unfold.