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To be fair, this could've been his plan all along.
But we created the expectations to get arcs for each one of those things. And that's on Oda for creating those expectations.
But think about it, the only way the Final War is bigger than Marineford, is if everything happens at the same time.
Marineford clashed everything that was happening and all the big players together in one place.
The Final War has to be the exact same, but bigger.
But we created the expectations to get arcs for each one of those things. And that's on Oda for creating those expectations.
But think about it, the only way the Final War is bigger than Marineford, is if everything happens at the same time.
Marineford clashed everything that was happening and all the big players together in one place.
The Final War has to be the exact same, but bigger.
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That is assuming he's gonna do the same amount of chapters and volumes post TS too ofc.
For him to skip Elbaf would make absolutely no sense to me though, it would be like skipping Wano and god knows I had to argue with so many people on why Wano will happen too.
Vikings and giants are far too big of a influence on Oda and feature in the story, it wouldn't make sense to skip it at all.
I've not even a huge fan of vikings, giants or whatever but for the sake of Usopp, the fact that Elbaf has been set up for 20 something years now maybe, that its had even longer setup and waiting time than Elbaf, that makes me sick tbh. It would be like having Shanks or Mihawk offscreened or Dragon or Garp or whatever.
I do think Oda is gonna do a lot of speed running for now, he's gonna accelerate things greatly especially with how much of a painful slog Dressrosa and especially Wano were but I refuse to believe he will skip Elbaf, even if we get a heavily cut down version of it.
That scenario you suggest could be possible but it would very underwhelming/lackluster, at least for me anyway. That could have been Usopps timeskip story if Oda wanted to do that instead, it would have been the perfect training arc for him.
There is also the assumption that Oda will finish in the next few years too. Oda himself even admitted his own estimates are unreliable and that hes said we've got 5 years left before or that OP was only meant tobe 5 years long or we're 80% of the story through or w/e before Wano too.
Oda could definitely do Elbaf if he trims out a LOT of the pointless nonsense he added in to these overbloated/saturated arcs post TS and just maintained a laser focus to the end.
Elbaf doesnt even need 30-40 chapters, it could probably manage at 10-20 depending on what its for. But even 30-40 would be idea/great, arcs used to be that length at most or so and it was truly wonderful.
If he skips Elbaf, it just proves the story really has lost its way, that its not truly about the adventure, spirit and such now and its just more of a political, grand themes focused, whatever kind of story.
After all this Yonko saga nonsense, I just want a truly adventurous, fun, simple arc one last time at least before the end, is that too much to ask for? Going back to OP's roots and remembering what made it so great in the first place, why we fell in love with it, where it started from, its roots.
Elbaf has way too much potential and involvement to be skipped, I just refuse to believe it will be. Its just as bad as saying Wano would be skipped.
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i'm not really assuming, there's just so much hints to that.
The timeframe he is giving, he always saying that the Pre-TS was the halfway point and 50% of the story.
Think about Wano, we thought this was gonna be Zoro's arc. We got almost nothing for his character with almost 150 chapters. Do you really think Oda could do something for Usopp with just 10~20 chapters? I don't think so.
I'm sorry Ghostly, but this hasn't been One Piece since Sabaody.
Thriller Bark was the arc that was about adventure and exploring, everything after that was about fighting the system, gaining power and allies, and making more mysteries about the world and stuff.
The timeframe he is giving, he always saying that the Pre-TS was the halfway point and 50% of the story.
Think about Wano, we thought this was gonna be Zoro's arc. We got almost nothing for his character with almost 150 chapters. Do you really think Oda could do something for Usopp with just 10~20 chapters? I don't think so.
I'm sorry Ghostly, but this hasn't been One Piece since Sabaody.
Thriller Bark was the arc that was about adventure and exploring, everything after that was about fighting the system, gaining power and allies, and making more mysteries about the world and stuff.
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Yeah, but think about it.
Whitebeard, Mihawk, Jinbei, Doflamingo, Admirals.
A bunch of dudes that got hyped up before Marineford, but we didn't see them to that much. They also didn't get their own arcs, but instead Oda put them all together for one big showdown in the war to see it happen.
At least Blackbeard Pirates vs Straw Hats is happening in Laugh Tale. That's for sure.
Whitebeard, Mihawk, Jinbei, Doflamingo, Admirals.
A bunch of dudes that got hyped up before Marineford, but we didn't see them to that much. They also didn't get their own arcs, but instead Oda put them all together for one big showdown in the war to see it happen.
At least Blackbeard Pirates vs Straw Hats is happening in Laugh Tale. That's for sure.
I wanted Straw Hats to visit Lodestar because it was technically the last island you could reach by following the log pose but it's clear it won't happen at this point.
One if my biggest problems with post-ts is the lack of adventure feel. Straw hats destinations have been predetermined before they even reached them instead of just following where the adventure would lead them.
One if my biggest problems with post-ts is the lack of adventure feel. Straw hats destinations have been predetermined before they even reached them instead of just following where the adventure would lead them.
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Listen, i could be wrong all right?
This is my interpretation of the interview.
That's what Oda seems to be setting up.
For example, Whole Cake island happened out of nowere after Zou.
Maybe that could be the same for Elbaf.
But right now, Oda has made almost no build up to it.
And if we're going there, don't expect it to be long.
It won't be this massive adventure, they will get there, get some info and ask for help of the giants or something. And then they have to go.
This is my interpretation of the interview.
That's what Oda seems to be setting up.
For example, Whole Cake island happened out of nowere after Zou.
Maybe that could be the same for Elbaf.
But right now, Oda has made almost no build up to it.
And if we're going there, don't expect it to be long.
It won't be this massive adventure, they will get there, get some info and ask for help of the giants or something. And then they have to go.
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But then again, even Whole Cake had some buildup already.
We had Luffy getting into a fight with Big Mom in fishman island.
We had Big Mom's crew and ship showing up in Dressrosa after them.
We had those little scenes of Big Mom's crew going after Sanji in Zou.
Elbaf feels like there's 0 build in the New World right now.
The only thing we had was Big Mom's flashback.
And Big Mom looks like she was defeated already in Wano.
That's why Elbaf's future is not looking to good.
With Oda saying he wants to end in 3 years, the 1200 chapters theory thing, with Shanks already being here in Wano (most people said Elbaf was gonna be Shanks' arc)
We had Luffy getting into a fight with Big Mom in fishman island.
We had Big Mom's crew and ship showing up in Dressrosa after them.
We had those little scenes of Big Mom's crew going after Sanji in Zou.
Elbaf feels like there's 0 build in the New World right now.
The only thing we had was Big Mom's flashback.
And Big Mom looks like she was defeated already in Wano.
That's why Elbaf's future is not looking to good.
With Oda saying he wants to end in 3 years, the 1200 chapters theory thing, with Shanks already being here in Wano (most people said Elbaf was gonna be Shanks' arc)
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