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Doggo

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This is a chapter that really shows Oda's problem when dealing with multiple characters at once.
He just can't do it for some reason.

He wants so badly to hype Momo with the "we'll do it ourselves" speech, that he just thinks a character like Yamato, Luffy and co. will literally just WATCH their friends die in front of them.
Luffy, the "I do whatever the fuck I want" incarnation would tell "STFU, Momo" and save him. Yamato would do it, etc.

It's legit AMAZING how Oda completely disregards other characters feelings and actions when trying to hype one specific character.
Seriously. It's fucking out of this world.

This "Momo Wank" is the only bad thing about this chapter, and it's amazing just HOW BAD it actually is.
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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
“The nation of Wano is so strong that the Marines go nowhere near it”-a decade of hype

One Piss stans: “OMG! Wano must have Admiral level samurai!”

Giga Bull: Neg Diffs all of Wano’s strongest samurai and Zou’s strongest warriors, wonders if he can use Yamatrash for toilet paper or if she’ll cause a rash
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Shanks wasn't alone.An admiral can't fight a yonku crew alone. Also a yonku alone can't fight another yonku crew alone. Remember Kaido that was shitted his pants when Big Mom and "her brats" arrived at Wano. He was ready for an all out war.
-Teach with his whole crew intact ran from Akainu and a bunch of fodder.
-Kaidou with his entire crew + extended Wano allies + Wano homefield advantage was having a panic attack at the thought of BM bringing her crew with her.
 
straight from 4chan

Chapter 1,055: "New Era".

- This week's Color Spread is "One Piece Film Red" poster drawn by Oda (with Luffy, Shanks and Uta).
- Chapter starts in the Flower Capital. Nami, Tama and Zeus are enjoying the party and the food.
- Outside the city, Momonosuke is beaten by Ryokugyuu. Yamato wants to go help him but Momonosuke insists that she must stay out of the fight.
- Raizou uses his technique "Ninpo: Maki Maki no Jutsu" to shoot a fire attack at Ryokugyuu.
- Ryokugyuu acts as if he's affected by Raizou's attack, but he is joking. Then he uses his technique "Bokarin" (Fireproof Forest) and breaks free from the flames.
Ryokugyuu: "You really thought you'd be able to defeat a Marine "Admiral" by relying on such an obvious weakness~~~~!!!"
- Ryokugyuu stabs Raizou's body with one of his branches and starts sucking out Raizou's nutrients.
- Kawamatsu tries to help him, but no matter how much branches and roots he cuts, they don't stop growing. Finally Ryokugyuu also catches Denjirou, Kawamatsu and Nekomamushi.
- Cut to the secret room of Kouzuki Sukiyaki. We see that a secret passageway (that leads to a long stairs) has been opened in the ground. Sukiyaki and Robin are walking down the stairs with Law.
- Robin asks Law if he has managed to follow her by her scents. Law says he's not a hyena. Law couldn't find Robin with her nakamas at the party, so he searched her.
- Sukiyaki says he never told Kaidou and Orochi about this passageway. But since one of the important members of the Beasts Pirates (Jack) is a Gyojin, it didn't took long for them to find the Poneglyph.
- Robin asks why a Gyojin would be able to find it. Sukiyaki tells her that it's better they see for themselves.
- Sukiyaki starts to tell the story of Wanokuni, but Robin interrupts him when she sees a light coming from a hole in the passageway.
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Anonymous 07/26/22(Tue)19:08:42 No.240677709
- Robin asks what is that, Sukiyaki tells her that she can go to see what is there, because a glass blocks the water (since they are now depth at the bottom of the sea).
- Robin crawls through the hole, Law teleports with her. They both look through the glass and see the ruins of an ancient city under the sea.
- Sukiyaki tells them that ruins are the other land of Wanokuni that existed about 800 years ago. Thanks to it's not seawater, the ruins were preserved in good conditions.
- Sukiyaki explains what happened to that ancient Wanokuni country (this scene has some panels to show us what happened).
- A long time ago Wanokuni was a large country (about 3 times larger than present Wanokuni). It was located at the bottom of Mount Fuji, at the same level than the sea.
- Then at one point in its history, the great walls that surround the island were built and the country was locked up. Rain water began to accumulate and flooded the entire country.
- After that, rain water reached the highest part of the walls and the water began to fall from them creating the great waterfalls (the ones that Luffy or Big Mom Pirates had to climbed).
- People decided to abandon the original Wanokuni and built a new country around the mountainside of Mount Fuji, which is the current Wanokuni.
- The group reach the bottom of the stairs and Sukiyaki opens a secret door that gives access to a large room where the Road Poneglyph is. Robin says that if they can find one more, they will be able to travel to Laugh Tale
- Sukiyaki says that this room is in a high platform inside the cave at Mount Fuji's base. And deep below is the "Ancient Weapon Pluton".
- However Sukiyaki has never seen the weapon, so he cannot show Robin and Law where it is. Sukiyaki: "In order to bring "Pluton" out, the walls of Wanokuni must be taken down!! In other words... "Opening the border" is destroy the defensive walls of this country, and it means to "unleashing the Ancient Weapon"!!!"
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- Robin wonders why Kouzuki Oden wanted to do something like that. Sukiyaki says he told them everything that has been passed down through the Shogun's family. Sukiyaki: "I don't know what Oden discovered in his journey at sea..."
- Back to the outside of the Flower Capital. Ryokugyuu's trapped the Red Scabbards and Yamato, and tells them they can't do anything against Mother Nature.
- Ryokugyuu says that if Kaidou had continued in the country, he wouldn't have come. Kaidou's reign is what kept enemies away from Wanokuni. - Ryokugyuu says to bring him "Straw Hat Luffy". When he takes his head, he will leave the country.
- Yamato tells Momonosuke they should ask Luffy and the rest for help, since they won't lose against a guy like this.
- Momonosuke (crying) says that he doesn't need Luffy's or Yamato's help, so he asks Yamato not to offer her help anymore.

Momonosuke : "You've been locked up in Onigashima all your life!! But now you're free!!! And that's why I want you to leave!!

Luffy, Zoro and the others... I can't always count on their help!! We have to be able to defend ourselves against all enemies... with the people of this country!!! We can't entrust it to those who are about to leave!! If we do... How can we protect our country in the future!!?"

- Ryokugyuu mocks Momonosuke's childish attitude and says that he never thought a dragon could be so embarrassing.
- In a moment of desperation, Momonosuke manages to shoot a "Bolo Breath" that passes through Ryokugyuu's tree body.
- The Red Scabbards and Yamato break free. Ryokugyuu looks at Momonosuke, he can't belive what happened.
- Yamato cannot believe that Momonosuke has mastered the power of the dragon. Denjirou says that Momonosuke is not aiming very well
- Momonosuke shoots another "Bolo Breath" at Ryokugyuu and burns his body. However, a small plant grows behind Ryokugyuu's burned body and Ryokugyuu grows up from it again.
- Ryokugyuu transforms again to continue the battle. Ryokugyuu: "Ahhhh.. Well, if that's the GAME you want to play... Fine, you Kaido Wannabe...!! I'm going to pierce you through the mouth to the tail!!!"
- Suddenly, black lightning can be seen in the distance. Ryokugyuu feels something is paralyzing him and he screams in pain. Ryokugyuu: "Wahh~~!!! Wait, wait!! That's Conqueror's Haki!! Who the hell are you!! What!? Red Hair Pirates!? And they're this close!?"
- Red Hair Pirates' ship is still in the sea near Wanokuni. Some of their members ask Shanks to stop or all the rookies are going to faint.
Shanks: "I won't say you're despicable...!! But a Marine targeting those "new leaves" that just changed pirate history... I think is tasteless."
- As Shanks says, this we can see some of his memories together with Luffy (when Luffy cuts on his face), Momonosuke (as a child together with Oden), Hiyori (at her birth... and we also see a silhouette that seems to be Uta (the character from "One Piece Film Red" who is Shank's daughter).
- Then we see a close-up panel of Shanks. He's very angry.
- Shanks: "Are you that afraid of the coming "New Era"!!?"
- Ryokugyuu returns to his normal form and says he has no intention of fighting Shanks and his crew. At least not now. He finally decides to leave.
- Yamato celebrates with Momo and the Red Scabbards. Momo cries with joy.
- In the Flower Capital we see that Brook, Usopp, Chopper and Franky are still in the party with Hiyori and Toko.
- Outside the city we see that Luffy is sitting on the ground with Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe.
Luffy: "He's gone!! Shishishi!!"
Sanji: "Looks like they didn't need our help."
Zoro: "Momo, I'm impressed..."
Jinbe: "But that Haki has been impressive."
Luffy: "I know!! What was that?"
- At the end of the chapter, Luffy smiles while we see Red Hair Pirates' ship is moving away from Wanokuni sea.
Luffy: "Somehow, a familiar face popped up in my mind."


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Let's look at the complete spoilers admiral fans.

Momo shocked greenbull to the point that greenbull was furious

Yamato stated that the straw hat would deal with greenbull quickly but momo decided not to rely on their help.

Momo damages him and shanks haki scares the shit out off him to the point that he is paralyzed.

Zoro Luffy and co calmly then state that they guess momo didn't need their help.

Explain to me how in any sense does this make green bull look good? Lol
 
Then she let herself get caught. If your implying she didnt fight or fend off those vines....then yh she let herself get caught like an idiot. Risking Momo even further.

Only once. Second time was when she begged for him to call the SHs to deal with a man like this.
Chromo you're basically going against Manga

Manga : Momo doesn't want yamato to fight. Nowhere it is stated or shown she fought GB on screen

Anything else is headcanon from you and others.

Oda doesn't want outsiders and those leaving to fight for wano anymore

I told you guys GB wouldn't beat any to person from alliance!
He didn't beat anyone
Restraining people who got freed later isnr winning or KO when those people are conscious talking when restrained.

GB vs Alliance :
  • Mid diff
  • Only restrained weakened base retainers and base Yamato who didn't fight
  • Beats Momo in round 2 Got blown by Momo in round 2. needed 3 rounds vs Momo
"Hype"
 
Raizo was getting drained. They were defeated.

You guys are digging your grave.

Oda’s intent is obviously to make everyone here look impressive, including Greenbull, which makes sense because he’s still being saved.
they got released by flames, so this might have looked like a luffy vs cracker fight where nami just keeps turning the biscuits to smoosh with water and scabbards keep getting released by momo doing bolo breath.
 
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