Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1055 Spoilers Discussion
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Still. By far the weakest Admiral introduction and power representation period. Oda really dropped the ball here. Tried to force his ideals on us so hard last chapter.
Headcanon time. Kid also felt Ryo's presence and is going to cut him off next chapter because he wants to get a higher bounty than Luffy.
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Headcanon time. Kid also felt Ryo's presence and is going to cut him off next chapter because he wants to get a higher bounty than Luffy.
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Okay since you're the detailed type, i'll try to be detailed about my perspective here:
- Zoro learned haki in a specific part of flashback tho, not during the entirety of TS. Obviously you can integrate haki with your swordsmanship to complement each other. It doesn't nullify the difference of Rayleigh's teaching vs Mihawk's teaching.
- Zoro's techniques got stronger, not necessarily due to haki. We just see his technique become bigger, his tornadoes become longer in duration, his flying slashes become longer, is it CoA lengthening the distance or prolonging the tornado Tatsumaki? Of course not, the basics and advanced levels of his sword technique and strength is certainly better compared to pre-TS, not solely CoA.
- Really no one even mentioned that Mihawk the WSS having the strongest haki. At marineford, a guy mentioned Mihawk's "slash" as the world's strongest slash. Is peak CoC applied as a slash? No, the strongest CoC infusion until now is applied as crushing attacks making no-touch zone.
- Mihawk didn't even teach Zoro CoC. Even the burden of proof is needed for Mihawk being able of doing CoC. Mihawk's teaching was all CoA. While Ray taught CoC, something Mihawk would emphasize to Zoro if only he is a master at it. But seeing Zoro's reply to Kaidou ("what do you mean CoC? I just willpower it with all my strength"), he wasnt taught CoC, implying Mihawk is not a CoC master.
- No one mention Roger as WSS at his time, Kaidou hyped Roger's haki instead of him being the WSS, WB hyped Shanks' CoC instead of him being a master swordsman, Vergo saying "haki user" as a separate term
- Zoro gave himself "King of Hell" instead of saying "now i'm one step closer to take WSS throne" or "i' a stronger swordsman now" etc once he mastered CoC, thus giving even more impression that haki is its own thing. Rayleigh saying since the first time that haki is an energy. Using haki is using that energy thus making haki as an independent power.
- Kaidou recognize Shanks as the only living person capable of matching him, while Mihawk didnt get that recognition. This is a clear advantage in Shanks' powerlevel portrayal compared to Mihawk, just like how Mihawk has his WSS title as his portrayal advantage over Shanks.
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Tldr:
- powerlevel-wise, i don't agree about WSS status as the strongest in haki, sincea character's strength as a haki user is its own term.
- narrative-wise, it's always Luffy and his hardest opponents that get the best haki. Always been the case.
- since the beginning, and especially now, Shanks is portrayed as the best CoC user in OP.
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My conclusion: Shanks being a weaker swordsman than WSS doesn't make him weaker than Mihawk in a fight, since until now Shanks is portrayed to have more powerful haki especially CoC.
- Zoro learned haki in a specific part of flashback tho, not during the entirety of TS. Obviously you can integrate haki with your swordsmanship to complement each other. It doesn't nullify the difference of Rayleigh's teaching vs Mihawk's teaching.
- Zoro's techniques got stronger, not necessarily due to haki. We just see his technique become bigger, his tornadoes become longer in duration, his flying slashes become longer, is it CoA lengthening the distance or prolonging the tornado Tatsumaki? Of course not, the basics and advanced levels of his sword technique and strength is certainly better compared to pre-TS, not solely CoA.
- Really no one even mentioned that Mihawk the WSS having the strongest haki. At marineford, a guy mentioned Mihawk's "slash" as the world's strongest slash. Is peak CoC applied as a slash? No, the strongest CoC infusion until now is applied as crushing attacks making no-touch zone.
- Mihawk didn't even teach Zoro CoC. Even the burden of proof is needed for Mihawk being able of doing CoC. Mihawk's teaching was all CoA. While Ray taught CoC, something Mihawk would emphasize to Zoro if only he is a master at it. But seeing Zoro's reply to Kaidou ("what do you mean CoC? I just willpower it with all my strength"), he wasnt taught CoC, implying Mihawk is not a CoC master.
- No one mention Roger as WSS at his time, Kaidou hyped Roger's haki instead of him being the WSS, WB hyped Shanks' CoC instead of him being a master swordsman, Vergo saying "haki user" as a separate term
- Zoro gave himself "King of Hell" instead of saying "now i'm one step closer to take WSS throne" or "i' a stronger swordsman now" etc once he mastered CoC, thus giving even more impression that haki is its own thing. Rayleigh saying since the first time that haki is an energy. Using haki is using that energy thus making haki as an independent power.
- Kaidou recognize Shanks as the only living person capable of matching him, while Mihawk didnt get that recognition. This is a clear advantage in Shanks' powerlevel portrayal compared to Mihawk, just like how Mihawk has his WSS title as his portrayal advantage over Shanks.
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Tldr:
- powerlevel-wise, i don't agree about WSS status as the strongest in haki, sincea character's strength as a haki user is its own term.
- narrative-wise, it's always Luffy and his hardest opponents that get the best haki. Always been the case.
- since the beginning, and especially now, Shanks is portrayed as the best CoC user in OP.
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My conclusion: Shanks being a weaker swordsman than WSS doesn't make him weaker than Mihawk in a fight, since until now Shanks is portrayed to have more powerful haki especially CoC.
@Red Admiral @Seraphoenix @comrade do you think it is possible that Shanks saved Marco and remnants of Whitebeards after they lost to Blackbeard?
Blackbeard letting go top tier fruits like Marco and Jozu still doesn't make sense until now.
Probably Shanks came and scare the Blackbeards with his CoC like he did in this chapter.
Blackbeard letting go top tier fruits like Marco and Jozu still doesn't make sense until now.
Probably Shanks came and scare the Blackbeards with his CoC like he did in this chapter.
I think the new admirals are comparable in strength to the OG admirals, as in having an extreme diff battle among each other. After all, the Marines were said to have grown in strength post TS, with the admirals being their main forces, and for the sake of balance, it wouldn't make much sense to have much weaker, new admirals.
As for Akainu, he seemed at least intimidated too, which is no shame. Aokiji was intimidated by Luffy's CoC too, turning pale, sweating and being like "whoa whoa, are you serious?!" With Kizaru saying CoC is a terrifying power.
As for Akainu, he seemed at least intimidated too, which is no shame. Aokiji was intimidated by Luffy's CoC too, turning pale, sweating and being like "whoa whoa, are you serious?!" With Kizaru saying CoC is a terrifying power.
Seeing the picture, Greenbull actually is kinda scared, he's shaking and sweating.
I can't believe that Oda used a newly introduced admiral to show Momo's courage and to hype Shanks for the new movie! Well, at the end of the day, I enjoyed every single pixel of it.
More than that, seems like the strongest strawhats were ready to kick GB ass, if the translation is right. Too overconfidence, the marines were about to lose one of its best fighter, in times like these, and Sakazuki just knew it!
I can't believe that Oda used a newly introduced admiral to show Momo's courage and to hype Shanks for the new movie! Well, at the end of the day, I enjoyed every single pixel of it.
More than that, seems like the strongest strawhats were ready to kick GB ass, if the translation is right. Too overconfidence, the marines were about to lose one of its best fighter, in times like these, and Sakazuki just knew it!
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