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I heard Samurai 8 actually failed because he had a shitty editor apparently too? A guy who is known as the Grim Reaper editor in the Japanese community? Hes ruined other series before?
I don’t know much about that actually
It’s more so Kishimoto’s own fault, like he knew the way he progressed the story isn’t right, he’s giving off too much info and have huge amount of text bubbles, but he made a gamble that people will tolerate it for his name, and he lost
Oh and another big thing that was a failure is the main couple, main character was absolutely an asshole when it comes to relationship and the whole thing just felt forced and uncomfortable(sounds familiar I know)
 

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I will never forgive Oda
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I get Minato, he was one of those characters that were just created to be popular, I’m not a huge fan of him either
Have to disagree about Jiraiya though, his death was absolutely one of the best part of the entire series, just sad that his dying message doesn’t amount to shit
I get the feeling it might’ve been bigger in the original scope of the Pein arc, where Pein leaves Konoha and Naruto confronts him else where.
 
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