Spoiler Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1057 Spoilers Discussion

[Seven7]

Honestly, you people don't learn.
Crashing on equal footing does not make you equal to the other.
Kaido base was overwhelming Luffy base in every way, only after Ashura miraculously Luffy is faster than Kaido.

Oh so you that type of zoro fan

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Oh so you that type of zoro fan

He’s one of those…

 

[Jackteo]

someone there mentioned how oda told toei to color advcoc yellow in the anime in asura and in luffy's advcoc punch

So just toei piece
Btw Zoro's is black not yellow, so his ACoC is fake or a level below the real one

 

[Peroroncino]

So just toei piece
Btw Zoro's is black not yellow, so his ACoC is fake or a level below the real one

it's yellow in the anime :laughmoji: in the manga oda just goes with whichever color he feels like

 

[Taixu]

Healthy Nika Luffy vs. Kaido would mean:
- Luffy hits much harder from the very beginning, as he combines his attacks with not only internal destruction but barrier and sky splitting Haoshoku
- Luffy can take much more from the very beginning, thus wearing himself down at a slower rate (not only awakened mythical Zoan endurance, but also the ability to mold around blunt force), while also being able to bring himself back with his heart beats.

As a matter of fact, both Kaido and Luffy were on their last legs (luffy literally died before their final fight, also periodically dying during the fight) and in the end, Luffy won against Kaido's strongest move (Blazing Bagua).

You can argue about Kaido vs. Luffy being an either way, with Kaido may or may not edging Luffy out, but as a matter of fact, they are that close.

Headcanon.
G5 only increases durability through hax and physical strength.
Luffy base could not keep up with Kaido base, Kaido hybrid>>Kaido base, thus destroying G5 in all aspects.

G5 reactions and speed = base Luffy.

 

[Seth]

All the billion berry commanders are gimmick fighters:
Katakuri - Future Sight to avoid damage
King - Lunarian durability to block damage
Queen - Invisibility to avoid damage
Marco - Phoenix flame to heal damage

Likely Jozu too - Diamond durability to block damage

Now that Shanks was revealed to possess shit that disables Future Sight I wonder if this won't be Zoro's affinity for CoO.

I always argued against Zoro having Future Sight, never made sense to me for him to have it.

I use the example of Naruto and Sasuke vs Limbo Madara. Sasuke somewhat of a FS and sees Limbo and Naruto increased sensing and senses Limbo.

I always imagined Zoro to get more sensory type CoO, I know CoO is like that from the get go but you know a bit advanced level.

Zoro being able to tell attack's range/aoe/power just from sensing it and etc.


But now after the reveal of FS killing ability, damn. I would love Zoro to have it.

 

[Marimo_420]

GANSTER GASTINO >>> CUCKAKURI




CEASER REALLY NEGGED THIS CLOWN OFF SCREEN AND HE'S STILL GETTING OVERRATED TILL THIS DAY. LMFAO

QUEEN > KATA

Fodder ass mofo.

 

[Hiragaro]

Redons favorite song

 

[Taixu]

The Sky splitting is exclusively a Yonko thing. It does not need explanation that at this moment Luffy reached their level. Being on the same level doesn't mean they're exact equals but they are on the same league regardless.

Yonko level Haki = Yonko level stats, great.

 

[Ballel]

Okay so I’m gonna replace Doggo, who wants his spot

@Doggo gotta replace you

 

[MarineHQ]

Yonko level Haki = Yonko level stats, great.

What stats does BM a full fledged Yonko have over Base Luffy let's be real here ?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Now that Shanks was revealed to possess shit that disables Future Sight I wonder if this won't be Zoro's affinity for CoO.

I always argued against Zoro having Future Sight, never made sense to me for him to have it.

I use the example of Naruto and Sasuke vs Limbo Madara. Sasuke somewhat of a FS and sees Limbo and Naruto increased sensing and senses Limbo.

I always imagined Zoro to get more sensory type CoO, I know CoO is like that from the get go but you know a bit advanced level.

Zoro being able to tell attack's range/aoe/power just from sensing it and etc.


But now after the reveal of FS killing ability, damn. I would love Zoro to have it.

I always imagined Zoros CoO (or whatever the fuck it was) is going to be an enhanced version of what he first learned in Alabasta where he was could do that breathing thing. So he’ll be able to sense the breathing of shiryus sword despite being invisible and more.

It seemed really strong and a swordsman specific thing which let’s be honest oda needs to make more of that

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

All the billion berry commanders are gimmick fighters:
Katakuri - Future Sight to avoid damage
King - Lunarian durability to block damage
Queen - Invisibility to avoid damage
Marco - Phoenix flame to heal damage

Likely Jozu too - Diamond durability to block damage

You missed Beckman, probably Advcoc to avoid Damage

 

[Taixu]

Oh so you that type of zoro fan

You can ignore Ashura if you want, I didn't mention it to give him credit.
Kaido's stats drop after that or Luffy miraculously improves all of his.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

@Doggo gotta replace you

 

[Sir Yasheen]

You missed Beckman, probably Advcoc to avoid Damage

I don’t take movies as canon. So I’ll wait till he shows up and fights in canon.

 

[Taixu]

What stats does BM a full fledged Yonko have over Base Luffy let's be real here ?

Strength, durability, endurance

 

[Red Night]

Redons favorite song

 

[Seth]

I always imagined Zoros CoO (or whatever the fuck it was) is going to be an enhanced version of what he first learned in Alabasta where he was could do that breathing thing. So he’ll be able to sense the breathing of shiryus sword despite being invisible and more.

It seemed really strong and a swordsman specific thing which let’s be honest oda needs to make more of that

Yeah it's pretty much what I explained to you.

Although BOAT is AdvCoO + AdvCoA at the same time. It's a combined technique to make one.

AdvCoO for Zoro will be to tell what is happening around him and etc...

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

I don’t take movies as canon. So I’ll wait till he shows up and fights in canon.

I'm talking about the 4 billion volume.
Movies aren't canon but the abilities are.