Spoiler Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1057 Spoilers Discussion

[Mr. Reloaded]

Pot the Carrot Cult leader has really converted you both huh?







Same here lmao.

I used to be a Carrot supporter back in the Orojackson days, her terrible treatment in Wano is what caused me to give up on her. But seeing as there's now a chance for redemption, i'm all here for her.

 

[Nikuzi]

Pot the Carrot Cult leader has really converted you both huh?







Same here lmao.

Nobody except for like 2 people know but my very first or second post on the site was me saying that Carrot was in lol. I've been on the train.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Assuming that there's no mistranslation and that we're supposed to agree with Hiyori, then by the narrative's logic we're supposed to believe that Celestial Dragons are capable of redemption but not children who just so happened to be born with the name Kurozumi

Spoiler

Same guy who wrote Fishman Island btw

I'd assume actual good CDs need to give up their name and status and live as normal people

As for the evil CDs and status-Quo merchants, well they're at very least lifetime prison

 

[mly90]

I stil can't believe this Kurozumi line is real and was featured in the ending of Wano's conclusion chapter.

Momo will pull a Oden to stop any discrimination against the Kurozumi

 

[Eagle]

I used to be a Carrot supporter back in the Orojackson days, her terrible treatment in Wano is what caused me to give up on her. Put seeing as there's now a chance for redemption, i'm all here for her.

 

[Don Diego]

It is in the bag, Carrot bros.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Yes Yamato can jump there instead of Tama

 

[Peenix]

I'd assume actual good CDs need to give up their name and status and live as normal people

As for the evil CDs and status-Quo merchants, well they're at very least lifetime prison

But then on the flip-side, if you were a good Celestial Dragon, couldn't you do more good by staying in power?

 

[mly90]

I used to be a Carrot supporter back in the Orojackson days, her terrible treatment in Wano is what caused me to give up on her. But seeing as there's now a chance for redemption, i'm all here for her.

You completely abandoned the Yamato train

 

[KiriNigiri]

My jaw is still recovering from a fracture and you just made it worse by posting this. lol

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

 

[Peenix]

I stil can't believe this Kurozumi line is real and was featured in the ending of Wano's conclusion chapter.

For the first time in One Piece, the heroes' victory feels hollow.
Nothing changed. The Kozukis are back in power. Wano's borders are still closed. Yamato's still trying to follow in Oden's footsteps. And the whole issue that lead to this entire mess (The Kurozumis' persecution) is still going on
No one learned anything.

Maybe that's the point

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Yamato

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

The Kurozumis issue is also funny because a consistent message through Wano (and even before) was shitting on its dumb system of beliefs.

—Kin'emon was introduced as a sexist asshole who would demand Nami to walk behind the men but he obviously improved this.

—Momonosuke was starving yet didn't want to eat Sanji's food, not until Kin'emon "allowed" him to do so because it was more important than their pride.

—Wano citizens killed Kawamatsu's mother and crucified him and the minks as kids; Oden was required to change their minds and accept those who were different.

—Oden's greatest mistake was trying to solve Kaidou's issue by himself, he didn't want people from outside to help him open the borders. Momonosuke corrected it by letting Luffy help him.

—Izou gave his life so Kiku and Kin'emon could live theirs after Usopp went on a rant against their stupid ideas about dying honorably, and of course they understood that it's better to enjoy life than die for nothing.

Yet the most poisonous belief that caused the country's suffering of decades remains intact.

I get what you are saying I really do. But I expected this to be the case.

1. Orochi did have a chance since his last name was known by Oden , his dad and tokos dad. He still allowed himself even after being treated differently to step into despair. And did not treat the same Oden with the respect that Oden gave him. Essentially he F'ed it up for everyone else who now has his last name. Him and kanjuro. Is it fair? No. But life isn't fair. Even after kawamatsu lost his mom he still bared no grudge since Oden who came from wano showed him compassion. Did he hate the people that did that to his mother? Yes. Did he hate wano on the whole? No because he knew good people were in wano. Same with the minks

 

[Gorosei Informer]

Nobody except for like 2 people know but my very first or second post on the site was me saying that Carrot was in lol. I've been on the train.

Oooooh even better!

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

@CoC: Color of Clowns You are nameless-san!. As one of Nami fan I was looking for u to tag u but I didn't find you. Go and vote -

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/strawhats-bounty-after-wano-arc.30669/

Welp, just changed my signature so people don't get confused anymore!

Vote I shall!

 

[Gorosei Informer]

For the first time in One Piece, the heroes' victory feels hollow.
Nothing changed. The Kozukis are back in power. Wano's borders are still closed. Yamato's still trying to follow in Oden's footsteps. And the whole issue that lead to this entire mess (The Kurozumis' persecution) is still going on
No one learned anything.

Maybe that's the point

That's exactly whats bothering me too. Aptly said.

 

[Red Night]

I used to be a Carrot supporter back in the Orojackson days, her terrible treatment in Wano is what caused me to give up on her. But seeing as there's now a chance for redemption, i'm all here for her.

Who remembers the Carrot4Nakama Hype ticket train guys had in their sig on Orojackson?

 

[mly90]

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

But then on the flip-side, if you were a good Celestial Dragon, couldn't you do more good by staying in power?

Doubt it. The General population won't like it.

It's like when an corrupt tyrannical regime change happened and ofc people won't accept you as a leader because your part of previous regime..


the hatred for CD, is really really strong transcend any sort of rationalization.

the good CDs will probably gave up everything and make a settlement of some abandoned island. They should not be living among commoners imo and most importantly they should not go anywhere near world politics