Nobody is going to heaven Part 1

[Ballel]

you are conflating pagan rituals with the religion.. and that's considered blasphemous given you are 2 timing the religion by practicing rituals of other religions or even satanic rituals involving myth about spirits visiting homes blah blah.. all derived from external material from the religion..

your premises contradicts its self fundamentally.. so much for me not understanding Abrahamic religions

'Blasphemous'?
'Satanic rituals'??

Ok listen, you can't demand others to respect your beliefs when you show zero respect for theirs.

 

[BleakAsh]

'Blasphemous'?
'Satanic rituals'??

Ok listen, you can't demand others to respect your beliefs when you show zero respect for theirs.

to someone someone who has no religious bearing you do speak a mouthful

go search up what Halloween actually is.. a ritual to ward ghosts from the land of dead by pagans 2000 years ago... wearing literal animal heads and burning them for "sacrifices" to the "Lord of the drakness" Samhain


Ofc a skeptic wouldn't get it coz you to no one's surprise seem to be ignorant of fundamental principles of islam and Christianity religion and would rather go around tell us folks that "whats wrong with accepting cultures"
bruh

see just coz you don't get basic concept you haven't the right to impose opinion based off of your ignorance.. thats not only inconsiderate.. its straight up Cringe

if you want to learn... ask... if you don't want to then don't expect us to be apologetic for our stances coz of your ignorance

 

[Ballel]

to someone someone who has no religious bearing you do speak a mouthful

Huh?

go search up what Halloween actually is.. a ritual to ward ghosts from the land of dead by pagans 2000 years ago... wearing literal animal heads and burning them for "sacrifices" to the "Lord of the drakness" Samhain

So what?
I really don't like that you feel the need to use a 'pagan satanic rituals' blanket term as a means to insult any and every belief that is not Abrahamitic.
And please do not conflate pagan with satanic.
You're showing a lot of ignorance and clearly lack basic respect for traditional beliefs, at the same time you demand your own belief to be respected.
On what basis? I owe you no respect when.you literally go around here and call pagans "devil worshippers" and "Satanists".

 

[NAMELESS]

to someone someone who has no religious bearing you do speak a mouthful

go search up what Halloween actually is.. a ritual to ward ghosts from the land of dead by pagans 2000 years ago... wearing literal animal heads and burning them for "sacrifices" to the "Lord of the drakness" Samhain


Ofc a skeptic wouldn't get it coz you to no one's surprise seem to be ignorant of fundamental principles of islam and Christianity religion and would rather go around tell us folks that "whats wrong with accepting cultures"
bruh

see just coz you don't get basic concept you haven't the right to impose opinion based off of your ignorance.. thats not only inconsiderate.. its straight up Cringe

if you want to learn... ask... if you don't want to then don't expect us to be apologetic for our stances coz of your ignorance

Solis is the type of guy that thinks he knows it all and has an opinion about everything.Don't debate this fool.

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you are conflating pagan rituals with the religion.. and that's considered blasphemous given you are 2 timing the religion by practicing rituals of other religions or even satanic rituals involving myth about spirits visiting homes blah blah.. all derived from external material from the religion..

your premises contradicts its self fundamentally.. so much for me not understanding Abrahamic religions

The Romans incorporated the paganism that was going on in the empire to appease all those different cultures and spread Christianity. That is how i see it.Romans always incorporated the religion from newly conquered cultures into their own culture.Modern Christianity is just a mess.A very insightful video:

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

town leader udell?
what is this

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You're wrong. And the only thing this forum likes is some pedophile manga about pirates, .

??
ok.....

 

[Sakazuki-Singh]

Hell is such a fucked up concept in some religions (not necessarily christianism)

"You don't want to join my religion ? Go to hell where you'll be tortured for eternity, I don't care if you never hurt anyone" /
"You left my religion ? That's ok, I'll send you to hell for that"

 

[BleakAsh]

Huh?

So what?
I really don't like that you feel the need to use a 'pagan satanic rituals' blanket term as a means to insult any and every belief that is not Abrahamitic.
And please do not conflate pagan with satanic.
You're showing a lot of ignorance and clearly lack basic respect for traditional beliefs, at the same time you demand your own belief to be respected.
On what basis? I owe you no respect when.you literally go around here and call pagans "devil worshippers" and "Satanists".

Lol so you generalize my statement to every pagan religion even tho i specifically mention what these specific pagans do bad try Lolsis

I never did use the term Satanic rituals to "generalize" you're putting words in my mouth even tho i explained what specifically Halloween is all about, which has nothing do with most Pagan religion.. that was a pitiful attempt at strawmaning me

Magic itself is seen as satanic in Abraham religions and a form of betrayal to the religion by casting spells and invoking supernatural being for help

This whole Celtic tradition may not be fundamentally "satanic" it pertains to aspect of mainly with craft that is black magic in our belief that used to be a thing back then

the whole point is this tradition contradicts many Christian beliefs to justify its adherence due to some half-assed sympathy to cultures is a mockery to their own religion

if it sounded like I'm mocking Celtic religious culture.. it wasn't meant to be taken that way unless you twist the premise of what I'm saying.

 

[AL sama]

 

[uyuu]

So many dead-serious threads nowadays...

 

[Ballel]

Lol so you generalize my statement to every pagan religion even tho i specifically mention what these specific pagans do bad try Lolsis

I never did use the term Satanic rituals to "generalize" you're putting words in my mouth even tho i explained what specifically Halloween is all about, which has nothing do with most Pagan religion.. that was a pitiful attempt at strawmaning me

Magic itself is seen as satanic in Abraham religions and a form of betrayal to the religion by casting spells and invoking supernatural being for help

This whole Celtic tradition may not be fundamentally "satanic" it pertains to aspect of mainly with craft that is black magic in our belief that used to be a thing back then

the whole point is this tradition contradicts many Christian beliefs to justify its adherence due to some half-assed sympathy to cultures is a mockery to their own religion

if it sounded like I'm mocking Celtic religious culture.. it wasn't meant to be taken that way unless you twist the premise of what I'm saying.

Oh boy give me a break

You can keep preaching about the TrUe fAiTh to the sinners and infidels while I go back to scrificing humans in my backyard, ok?

Let's end this discussion here. Have a nice day.

 

[BleakAsh]

Oh boy give me a break

You can keep preaching about the TrUe fAiTh to the sinners and infidels while I go back to scrificing humans in my backyard, ok?

Let's end this discussion here. Have a nice day.

you start by straw manning me... and you end by straw manning me.. you don't get point I'm trying to make.. you add to what i say (never even touched human sacrifices).. this shows how narrow-minded you really are

I was never preaching anything.. i was just defending the premise that adapting pagan rituals and contradictory cultures twists and dissipates religious values and forms blatant discrepancies in it.. it makes Christianity redundant if people are just adding what many would consider peak blasphemy in their own religions for the sake of "adapting cultures".

ofc this went over head since you are oblivious of religious principles and almost seem naive as to even entertain adapting religious cultures for the sake of it.

This whole time i was defending my premise while you blame me for generalizing the vast pagan cuktures

pitiful lolsis.

 

[VisualKei]

The burn make it stop

 

[AL sama]

@BleakAsh @solis you 2 mumbo jumbos stop making a fuss over nothing

 

[MonochromeYoru]

@BleakAsh @solis you 2 mumbo jumbos stop making a fuss over nothing

Why do u hate fun?

Besides, This is the general section right? So there is no problemo discussing stuff like this here. Discussion is good and necessary. They should stop any name calling and insulting though.

 

[AL sama]

Why do u hate fun?

Besides, This is the general section right? So there is no problemo discussing stuff like this here. Discussion is good and necessary. They should stop any name calling and insulting though.

you and I have different definitions of fun I guess

also discussing and making fuss isn't the same thing

 

[Midnight Delight]

@AL sama close this thread

 

[BleakAsh]

I'd like to rectify one thing that i based upon here say @solis..

I made it sound like Celtic culture is satanic by misinterpreting the point of Samhain tradition.. which is meant to ward of evil and malevolent spirits and celebrate the dead by offering sacrifices by burning them to their gods

But i never claimed and will not stand by the accusation that i generalized and labeled all Non Abrahamic religions as Satanic it goes against my own beliefs to do such

Celtic culture is a 1.5 or 2 millenniums old religion if i get anything wrong you can correct me but DO NOT GENERALIZE my statements to Non-Abrahamic religions

my misconceptions about ancient traditions and magic uga buga is nit the point here i reiterate that Celtic tradition was not satanic even tho it has pretty questionable aspects and dodgy history around some practices

but was this the premise of my statements? NOPE..

to summarize
" Halloween isn't a Christian tradition and it contradicts Christianity hence the Argument 'what wrong with maintain cultures' doesn't stand '

@AL sama i apologize for the fuss

 

[AL sama]

" Halloween isn't a Christian tradition and it contradicts Christianity hence the Argument 'what wrong with maintain cultures' doesn't stand '

it may not be part of christian culture but at this point its a huge part of western culture so if they choose to maintain it as a normal event then there's nothing wrong I guess

 

[BleakAsh]

it may not be part of christian culture but at this point its a huge part of western culture so if they choose to maintain it as a normal event then there's nothing wrong I guess

true I'm not saying no one has a choice on this. but saying its a Christian thing is false that is the point

if a Christian wants to celebrate it knowing its roots and their religious beliefs.. then its them and their prerogative to transgress their religious boundaries .. but the whole point was that Halloween isn't a Christian tradition.. matter the fact it was entertained and twisted by Roman's to subdue Celtic practices my blending Christian Church aspects

for example Halloween was called Samhain by celtics and it was meant to celebrate the dead... Christians synchronized and formed their "version" celebrating death of Christian religious leaders.. just to blend and slowly absorb this celtic practice

Christmas on the other hand gets a bit more heat from Muslims coz it pertains directly to Jesus (AS)

 

[NAMELESS]

I'd like to rectify one thing that i based upon here say @solis..

I made it sound like Celtic culture is satanic by misinterpreting the point of Samhain tradition.. which is meant to ward of evil and malevolent spirits and celebrate the dead by offering sacrifices by burning them to their gods

But i never claimed and will not stand by the accusation that i generalized and labeled all Non Abrahamic religions as Satanic it goes against my own beliefs to do such

Celtic culture is a 1.5 or 2 millenniums old religion if i get anything wrong you can correct me but DO NOT GENERALIZE my statements to Non-Abrahamic religions

my misconceptions about ancient traditions and magic uga buga is nit the point here i reiterate that Celtic tradition was not satanic even tho it has pretty questionable aspects and dodgy history around some practices

but was this the premise of my statements? NOPE..

to summarize
" Halloween isn't a Christian tradition and it contradicts Christianity hence the Argument 'what wrong with maintain cultures' doesn't stand '

@AL sama i apologize for the fuss

Halloween is more of an English culture thing.