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Wildfire Kaios said:
Congrats! You just proved his point 😂😂😂
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Proved his point of what? I didn't deny what he said in the first place
ex ZKK believers are just a part of the haters, Oda himself didnt keep his words from past interviews in the first place.
now Kaios I know that you are a big troll in here and lack a social life, so don't bother me much and waste my time.
 
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Blazing Lion said:
There is enough evidence that defeating a threat (someone who has a bounty) leads to your bounty being higher than the threat you defeated. Luffy defeats the East Blue guys (Buggy, Kreig, Arlong) and he gets his 30 mil bounty after defeating Arlong (20 mil). Luffy defeats Crocodile (81 mil) and gets 100 mil bounty. Luffy defeats Doffy (340 mil) and he gets a raise (although Luffy already had 400 mil at that time) to 500 mil. Law (440 mil) also get his to 500 mil after that. Luffy defeated Kata and Cracker and his bounty was greater than either one (1.5 bil). You can add other accomplishments that he did that and that too but the pattern is pretty much clear that you get a bigger bounty than those you defeated. BM and Kaido are the first Yonko's to have been defeated, previously the enemies were Warlords (with frozen bounties) and WG. The first bounty is a big thing (it is given after a series of involvements/incidents it seems). One exception is Mr.1 (75 mil, don't know how he got a bounty when he was a bounty hunter) having a higher bounty than Zoro (60 mil) but this was Zoro's first bounty.

I agree Yonko's are different cases since their repo is built over time (others also but they are not Warlords allied with WG) and they are monsters individually (except Bugg) but you seem to be missing the point. The WG sees them as an alliance vs alliance fight. Kaido and BM, Best pirates and BM pirates vs the SN trio, SHPs, Kid Pirates and Heart Pirates. The captains of the Yonko alliance are defeated by the captains of the SN alliance. Therefore the overall bounty of Kaido (4.611 bil) and BM (4.388) which is 8.999 bil is lower than Luffy (3 bil), Kid (3 bil) and Law (3 bil). Why does the WG not differentiate between the share of work done by each SN captain. We as readers know that Luffy did a lot more than Kid or Law but the WG does not care, to them it is the accomplishment of an alliance and the captains of the alliance are equal in their eyes. Take BB for an example he captured Ace (550 mil), became Warlord, broke and recruited ID Level 6 prisoners and then beat the WB remnants (the highest bounty being Marco 1.37 bil) and then BB got a bounty of 2.247 bil or something.

The other thing is that Zoro's bounty has been higher than Luffy's last bounty when crew achievements have been shown. Luffy's first was 30 mil, Zoro's first is 60 mil. Luffy's second is 100 mil, Zoro gets 120 mil. Luffy's third is 300 mil, Zoro gets 320 mil (not counting 400 mil since the 100 mil increase was due to ID and MF where the crew had no involvement). There is a break in pattern here because while DR raised the bounties for all crew members, WCI did not, only Sanji and Luffy got an increase. After Wano there is a chance that Zoro might surpass Luffy's last crew involved bounty of 1.5 bil.

I hope we get bounties of RHPs members soon as their structure is more like the SHPs and we can speculate better or vice versa.
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I agree with some of your arguments and disagree with another.

For one, I disagree that just defeating a threat is enough to increase a bounty above the threat. Using Luffy as a example, most (if not all) the times he got a increase in bounty he also changed the landscape in a very significant way.

Using Dressrosa as a example. Luffy didn't just defeat Don Flamingo but also changed the leadership of the island to one aligned with him, destroyed the supply of smiles (army of a Yonko) and them managed to escape a admiral. Like it or not, it was not just a 1x1 that decided his bounty. In wano it was the same. At the same time, part of Zoro bounty increase is not only because he defeated a enemy but also because he is part of the crew that did all of that.

That's why I said that I don't think the accomplishments of both Zoro and Sanji are enough to justify the higher bounty, when compared with Luffy. Outside of defeating King and Queen they didn't did enough in the raid to justify the crazy numbers some people are claiming. Of course, Oda can stop giving a shit and give those bounties, but I don't see even a in story reason for that.
 
Dark-Abel

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- Blackbeard and Buggy are making contact
- The Marines are freaking out, the Kaido and Big Mom alliance just ended and an even worst alliance is now starting
- Buggy confirmed to awakened his fruit and has a bounty of 4 Billion
 
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