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Hmm sure, but those were fodder... She beat up fodder... The gap between Fodder and actual fighters is to the point that fodder literally get knocked out from the presence of strong dudes

Anyway she’s skilled but she would ultimately be Tashigi Level because no woman can actually just pump weights and be strong like everyone else.. All the important women characters are either born monsters like Big mom or they have Hax DFs like Hancock, Sugar, Pudding, Bonney and such... The three female characters who are strong from training are Smoothie, Koala and Carrot and they barely do jack shit

So as it stands, it’s a rule in the universe that women LITERALLY CANNOT be strong
Lol she was beating adult men at the age of kid. She was a monster.
 
she was stronger than Zoro as a kid , she was probably one of the strongest kids in OP and you think she would turn out like Tashigi ?!!
and all that training she had should make her strong if she grew up
Koushiro said so. And given Koushiro is a master swordsman and her father as well, he wouldn’t just be saying such shit for the sake of it without some kind of proof

And we know for a fact that how stronger you are than a character at a certain time doesn’t mean you will be stronger than them later too even if you both train since growth potential is a thing in this verse...

And you know, Fuckin Kiku turned out to be a man so it’s damn obvious that Oda is NOT gonna do anything any time soon to change his original view that women can’t be strong... We’re approaching 1000 chapters and it hasn’t happened yet
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Lol she was beating adult men at the age of kid. She was a monster.
She was beating adult FODDER
 
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Koushiro said so. And given Koushiro is a master swordsman and her father as well, he wouldn’t just be saying such shit for the sake of it without some kind of proof

And we know for a fact that how stronger you are than a character at a certain time doesn’t mean you will be stronger than them later too even if you both train since growth potential is a thing in this verse...

And you know, Fuckin Kiku turned out to be a man so it’s damn obvious that Oda is NOT gonna do anything any time soon to change his original view that women can’t be strong... We’re approaching 1000 chapters and it hasn’t happened yet
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She was beating adult FODDER
it's fiction at the end so things like that shouldn't matter lol but ok you and him seem to share the same thoughts tho
 
it's fiction at the end so things like that shouldn't matter lol but ok you and him seem to share the same thoughts tho
Oh don’t misunderstand... It’s DAMN SHAME that Oda is so old fashioned that even in a fictional story he would stick to such Old fashioned tropes... I find it quite a damn loss to the potential of the story through and through

BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS... Oda made this a rule in his universe and I don’t see him changing it anytime soon
 
Koushiro said so. And given Koushiro is a master swordsman and her father as well, he wouldn’t just be saying such shit for the sake of it without some kind of proof

And we know for a fact that how stronger you are than a character at a certain time doesn’t mean you will be stronger than them later too even if you both train since growth potential is a thing in this verse...

And you know, Fuckin Kiku turned out to be a man so it’s damn obvious that Oda is NOT gonna do anything any time soon to change his original view that women can’t be strong... We’re approaching 1000 chapters and it hasn’t happened yet
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She was beating adult FODDER
Doesnt matter they are men and she was beating them.

Amande can literally cut things that G3 couldnt even break. So again it doesnt matter about gender. Its just Oda doesnt give a fuck about women.
 
But her biology says she will be weak forever... She would have to go to ivankov to get those sweet Y chromosomes to be above Tashigi level
She would decimate Tashigi even in women form. I do feel like OP is a crazy enough world for a woman to be that strong just from naturally training by themselves. Oda just dont give af

You maybe onto something lol
 
Doesnt matter they are men and she was beating them.

Amande can literally cut things that G3 couldnt even break. So again it doesnt matter about gender. Its just Oda doesnt give a fuck about women.
Amande only cut King Baum... only that... And I’m sure fuckin Tashigi can do that too

Like I said, Only Smoothie, Koala and Carrot have the potential to be female characters who actually don’t have busted fruits who trained to be strong and can be strong but guess what, ODA SIDELINES THEM... Hell check out the Revolutionary army attacking Mariejois... Oh god I was physically in pain when I saw Koala and Betty jJUST SITTING THERE TAKING TEA OR SOME DUMB SHIT... Oh god I got mad... Fuckin stupid... But it is what it is... Betty with another one of those Hax DFs that women need to be relevant and Koala the protege human who learned Fishman karate... They just sit there taking tea while the men fight
 
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But werent some fatherfeelings the reason why Garp let Luffy go to Ace? Werent These Feelings the reason Sengoku needed to save the life of Akainu from Garp? Werent this Feelings not the reason why Whitebeard appeared at Marineford? Werent this Feelings not the reason why Dragon saved Luffy back in Loguetown? :D

Whitebeard is the most fatherly father in OPverse, I will give you that.

Garp's case is full of contradiction. He didn't do anything till Ace died, just mopped. So, him attacking Akainu after the deed was done is barely indicator of anything. You are right on Dragon's case though.
 
She would decimate Tashigi even in women form. I do feel like OP is a crazy enough world for a woman to be that strong just from naturally training by themselves. Oda just dont give af
1000 chapters in though and it hasn’t been proven yet... Smoothie was the saving grace who went NO WHERE... The only female commander in ANY YONKOU CREW and guess what... She accomplished nothing even though she was in the arc way longer than Daifuku Katakuri and Oven but they did more in the arc than her in the end

Hell even when Momma came back to Wano no one was like “Oh my god it’s Smoothie” people were like “Shit where’s Katakuri and Cracker”
 
Amande only cut King Baum... only that... And I’m sure fuckin Tashigi can do that too

Like I said, Only Smoothie, Koala and Carrot have the potential to be female characters who actually don’t have busted fruits who trained to be strong and can be strong but guess what, ODA SIDELINES THEM... Hell check out the Revolutionary army attacking Mariejois... Oh god I was physically in pain when I saw Koala and Betty jJUST SITTING THERE TAKING TEA OR SOME DUMB SHIT... Oh god I got mad... Fuckin stupid... But it is what it is... Betty with another one of those Hax DFs that women need to be relevant and Koala the protege human who learned Fishman karate... They just sit there taking tea while the men fight
Im talking about Peros candy wall. She cut it.

Like I said if Oda gave a fuck about wome then they would be strong. Its bullshit to think they would be weak, when this is the OP world and humans are literally destroying mountains. Logic doesnt exist in the OP...
 
1000 chapters in though and it hasn’t been proven yet... Smoothie was the saving grace who went NO WHERE... The only female commander in ANY YONKOU CREW and guess what... She accomplished nothing even though she was in the arc way longer than Daifuku Katakuri and Oven but they did more in the arc than her in the end

Hell even when Momma came back to Wano no one was like “Oh my god it’s Smoothie” people were like “Shit where’s Katakuri and Cracker”
Smoothie and all the females are trash in this series ( except Nami). But your not getting my point as it would be possible for them to be top tier.
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