Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1058 Spoilers Discussion

[Monkey D Theories]

Nah. She'll definitely pull through man

if she did, there's no reason she wouldn't have joined either Luffy or cross guild. But neither seem to have happened.

 

[Weeman]

Maybe Gryphon isn't actually a sword.

 

[Black Lord Sanji]

not hancock news yet
its not looking good

She’s #cooked brev

 

[Vanlax]

One Chapter after Wano,

One Piece is great again.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

What if Shanks gets a DF, making him not a pure swordsman. And Oda makes him the EoS villain?

Shanks said that he wanted to find one piece with buggy. Buggy is "captain" of cross guild. What if the way Zoro vs Mihawk happens is by Buggy allying with shanks, and shanks being the EoS villain?

the matchup would be:

Luffy vs Shanks
Zoro vs Mihawk
Sanji vs Beckman
Jinbe vs Crocodile
ect.

.......pure swordman..
.

 

[Kerkovian]

Luffy has beaten tough guy, by losing 6 times, dying once and with help of 15 people and the tough guy nerfing himself with an island.
Zoro has beaten a tougher guy, in record time. And then went on and took doubled Hakai(2Kaidos+2BigMoms).

Loro needed mink medicine, Enma, Sanji and Marco fighting King to damage him to win and he nearly died doing that. So take your medicines Lik, Zolo is a fodder as compared to Godfy and you are a fodder at real life.

 

[Screws Loose242]

Ouka Shichibukai and a swordsman who surpasses Emperor "Red Hair" in skill. But not In haki so HAKI= SKILL

 

[terabyte]

not hancock news yet
its not looking good

Good, I want her packed up

 

[Grimmskvll]

lt's never pointless to discuss.. My reasoning for Zoro not having AdCoC is sound, the Black lightning should be coming from all over his blades like Roger and Whitebeard, not a specific point where Enma's soul green smoke is..

Are you blind?

 

[ShadyOjiro]

One Chapter after Wano,

One Piece is great again.

For real OP feels quite refreshed now.

 

[Peroroncino]

Maybe Gryphon isn't actually a sword.

Its obviously a giant dildo

 

[SkySanji]

Mihawk needs the World's Strongest Sword and sword techniques to keep up with Shank's raw haki

 

[Blackknife]

CROSS GUILD BEST ONE PIECE CREW

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

No I'm just giving the revos credit cus people thought they would get washed beside Sabo even if nerf and you not must know I'm not a big mom fan i hate the bitch so akainu over her anyday or any yonko fan beside buggy and yea we didn't see the fight but your boss don't said dont make excuses for them move on but if Sabo still damage that a W for them

Sure it is w for revolutionary people and sabo to achieve the mission like luffy recuse robin from cp9 group.
However admirals are not defeated by them unlike luffy beat rob lucci .

Of course they fight offscreen and took damage somewhere whatever . We don’t see it.

The Akainu thing don’t make excuse is his personality thing not power level lmao .

Bruh we have many shanks fans making excuse about mihawk that same people lecture us about make no excuses thing.

 

[Doggo]

But I've been told every single Sanji fan is very insecure right now?, it's ok to admit you're suffering from inferiority complexes.

Oh yes, you're right.
I forgot this is a mandatory requisite.
Silly me.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that Caesar clown KO'ed Katakuri.

Oh boy

 

[Monkey D Theories]

.......pure swordman..
.

As in he gets a DF that literally changing his style of fighting. ex. a god fruit that makes him master of multiple different fighting styles and weapons(like many hindu gods).

 

[MonochromeYoru]

if she did, there's no reason she wouldn't have joined either Luffy or cross guild. But neither seem to have happened.

Luffy literally came out of wano just now....

Cross guild seems to be an invitation based thing. Maybe she didn't get invitee by Croco.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Think of it like this:

Mihawk's title in Japanese is written exactly the same as Whitebeard's title and Kaido's title. The most logical interpretation of both Whitebeard's and Kaido's titles is that they are stronger, as in more powerful, than anyone who falls under the same category.

Anything that is considered a "creature" should be, by the title, weaker than Kaido. The same goes for Whitebeard.

Why is Mihawk's title treated differently, when it is written in the exact same way as the other two?

Realistically, the only logical way to argue in favor of Shanks is by claiming that he's simply not a swordsman. He can't be stronger than Mihawk and be a swordsman. It's one or the other. The only issue is that trying to argue that Shanks is not a swordsman is a very steep hill, considering it's not something that's ever been suggested in the manga.

Admittedly, Shanks' portrayal and place in the story is confusing. He seems to be much "bigger" than Mihawk in the One Piece world in terms of influence, and he's also heavily tied to the main character. That's why it is definitely possible/probable that Shanks has something, I don't know what, that Mihawk doesn't have in order to match up to him in some way. I'm pretty sure Oda even said it's very difficult to rank/compare two top tiers unless they have a full-fledged 1v1 anyway.

I think Mihawk >= Shanks is a pretty safe bet, with some margin for error.

The issue here is that Oda could have easily said "his strength surpasses that of Red Haired Shanks." There is absolutely nothing stopping Oda from writing that, if that is the message he wants to convey.

Like what author in there right mind would sit down and think to themselves "I am going to write his Swordsmanship surpasses Shanks, but everyone knows I am talking about strength." That doesn't even make any sense.

Personally, I don't care which one is stronger, but we can't sit here and just pretend the author means something completely different than what he wrote, just because. No need for such ambiguity, if the message is meant to be clear.

 

[Mlzz]

What if Shanks gets a DF, making him not a pure swordsman. And Oda makes him the EoS villain?

Shanks said that he wanted to find one piece with buggy. Buggy is "captain" of cross guild. What if the way Zoro vs Mihawk happens is by Buggy allying with shanks, and shanks being the EoS villain?

the matchup would be:

Luffy vs Shanks
Zoro vs Mihawk
Sanji vs Beckman
Jinbe vs Crocodile
ect.

Shanks final villain for you ? BB will lol diff shanks and kill him and all is crew