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I never said that. In the moment of King's defeat his flame vanished against Zoro. In the moment of King's defeat against Aramaki is flame vanished also, doesn't mean it wasn't on before. There's no argument for his flame to not be on because it always is. No sea stone can suppress it.

The cope arguments need to be put to rest.

- No cuffs anywhere
- 1 week of rest
- Lunarian genes
- Ancient Zoan recovery
- Help from Queen
- Aramaki warned them beforehand

No way to cope was left open by Oda. They simply lost and that's it. Blackbeard only uses blunt force while Aramaki pierces through, difference in attack style. Aramaki is more lethal so far.
One is knocked out and other isn't. You are bring dishonest by trying to equate the two

This is no cope argument, it is literally fact...King had no flame when he was stabbed by Greenbull. It is down to you to prove that he had flame...which you can't. You can scream "cope" all you want, it doesn't make your point valid
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Why was King's flame not working ? It has nothing to do with his DF ? Was it taking a break ?
Ask Oda
 
One is knocked out and other isn't. You are bring dishonest by trying to equate the two

This is no cope argument, it is literally fact...King had no flame when he was stabbed by Greenbull. It is down to you to prove that he had flame...which you can't. You can scream "cope" all you want, it doesn't make your point valid
No I'm not. You're creating your own rules pretending like King needs to be unconscious for his flame to be out. He lost against both and in that moment there ain't no flame, it's striking.

The burden of proof lies on you to prove that the flame wasn't on because it always is. Also, how do you explain King getting wrapped up like a sandwich in the first place ?
Aramaki did not sneak on him lying in bed, he told us that much. King attacked first and got folded.
 
Kata is prob the one YC that makes burgess look good:kobeha:
It's the opposite. Katakuri is the only YC1 who makes Kaido look bad. Kaido failed to react to Snakeman. His advCoC was tanked by Luffy with a smile while Mochi Thrust grazed Luffy's body and almost killed him.

Meanwhile King is the only YC1 who makes veteran look good
 
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