Break Week Shanks at Marineford doesn't look that special anymore
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LMAO, this is going to be biggest joke to see a great law keeper, justice holder and a person standing at the top of one of the most powerful force is giving face or trying to save face of a criminal. Lol
When Shanks challenged everyone, BBP left due to inferiority and later rather than accepting challenge, marines accepted terms. This context heavily implies the power level of Shanks.
Now marines may have decided not to accept challenge because they don't have any special tactics prepared for the situation but accepted terms in their own turf proves they fear the outcome of that battle.
No matter how any fandom wants to twist things, insert there own delusional theories or tries to degrade Shanks position but the way things concluded in MF, it's a big W for Shanks while L for both BB and Navy.
Rest all are just lame excuses. Look at the whole context of that chapter, BB taking leave while Sengoku accepting Shanks terms rather than accepting the challenge which was openly issued. Lol
Rest all felt irrelevant in context of MF but Shanks past concubine Akainu just felt like looking in deep fear of getting spanked and disciplined right in front of everyone.
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LMAO, this is going to be biggest joke to see a great law keeper, justice holder and a person standing at the top of one of the most powerful force is giving face or trying to save face of a criminal. Lol
When Shanks challenged everyone, BBP left due to inferiority and later rather than accepting challenge, marines accepted terms. This context heavily implies the power level of Shanks.
Now marines may have decided not to accept challenge because they don't have any special tactics prepared for the situation but accepted terms in their own turf proves they fear the outcome of that battle.
No matter how any fandom wants to twist things, insert there own delusional theories or tries to degrade Shanks position but the way things concluded in MF, it's a big W for Shanks while L for both BB and Navy.
Rest all are just lame excuses. Look at the whole context of that chapter, BB taking leave while Sengoku accepting Shanks terms rather than accepting the challenge which was openly issued. Lol
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Is Shanks a swordsman?
Because Zoro has explicitly said he can't lose to any swordsman, and that's his dream.
He doesn't care if the said swordsman doesn't even use sword 90% of the time. He said that in a fight where his opponent was riding a unicycle, playing beyblades and spitting fire. But according to him, he couldn't lose just because that person is a swordsman.
Damn, you're so insecure about Zoro surpassing Shanks that you have to pretend he's somehow the sole exception who will be > strongest swordsman protagonist EoS despite being a swordsmasn himself?
Maybe would've made more sense when Shanks starts fighting with haki bars and eye lasers outside of your fanfictions.
I mean isn't that literally every character? Luffy's ceiling in confirmation is limited to > Roger so far.
Zoro's future feats and level don't depend on Shanks or Mihawk. He'll have surpassed both by the time he defeats Mihawk, and then there's another one-up during EoS. It's impossible to have Mihawk be his EoS opponent unless you think Zoro won't help vs main villain and their gang.
I do think Luffy will fight Shanks or compete with him in some manner around same time Zoro might defeat Mihawk (not saying it'd put Zoro >= Luffy, or anything), but there's no way in hell it'd be EoS.
Because Zoro has explicitly said he can't lose to any swordsman, and that's his dream.
He doesn't care if the said swordsman doesn't even use sword 90% of the time. He said that in a fight where his opponent was riding a unicycle, playing beyblades and spitting fire. But according to him, he couldn't lose just because that person is a swordsman.
Damn, you're so insecure about Zoro surpassing Shanks that you have to pretend he's somehow the sole exception who will be > strongest swordsman protagonist EoS despite being a swordsmasn himself?
Maybe would've made more sense when Shanks starts fighting with haki bars and eye lasers outside of your fanfictions.
What !? That's all absolute justice keeper capable of !? From throwing punches or magma he starts giving lip services in an instant and later became a statue after hearing challenge to all...
Only few were left including you in Zoro's fandom but with this even you accepted that Zoro's future feats and level is all depends on Shanks or Mihawk.... lol
If Mihawk performs better - he's future Zoro's stepping stone.
If Shanks performs better - he's future landmark which Zoro going to surpass.
Hope Oda didn't make you guys taking a dip in muddy water if Shanks somehow became only approachable by Luffy and Mihawk by Zoro by the EoS coz very few clashes are remained in this series. Lol
Only few were left including you in Zoro's fandom but with this even you accepted that Zoro's future feats and level is all depends on Shanks or Mihawk.... lol
If Mihawk performs better - he's future Zoro's stepping stone.
If Shanks performs better - he's future landmark which Zoro going to surpass.
Hope Oda didn't make you guys taking a dip in muddy water if Shanks somehow became only approachable by Luffy and Mihawk by Zoro by the EoS coz very few clashes are remained in this series. Lol
Zoro's future feats and level don't depend on Shanks or Mihawk. He'll have surpassed both by the time he defeats Mihawk, and then there's another one-up during EoS. It's impossible to have Mihawk be his EoS opponent unless you think Zoro won't help vs main villain and their gang.
I do think Luffy will fight Shanks or compete with him in some manner around same time Zoro might defeat Mihawk (not saying it'd put Zoro >= Luffy, or anything), but there's no way in hell it'd be EoS.
Zoro definitely going to get whatever Mihawk has and later even in superior way as well. There's is no doubt about it.
But i don't think he'll have everything that either Luffy or Shanks has.
With story point of view, WSC >/~ WSS. WSS can't be get above WSC. So Luffy already either become equals to Mihawk level or surpassed him. Only exception is that Mihawk swords skill makes the fight reaching extreme diff.
Now only limited characters left, those with no titles but superior portrayal and high positions who has chance to shine in league above those with titles.
Like just after the fall of WSC Kaido, Oda made non title holder, Shanks to display a feat which is normal for him but totally in different class than what WSC showed in his whole fight in his own arc, which could even affect a mid/high top tier from miles away. Why showing such feat right after the fall of WSC clearly states Oda's intentions. While such feat could only be expected from Roger or Xebec in Flashback.
Later now he made Imu doing something in so casual way that none of the title holder could do. Though it's part of spoilers so i won't be going into details.
Dragon, the most mysterious and definitely a blackhorse to bet on.
While Akainu or someone from Goroseis could also either reach title holders level or amongst later one, someone might surpass them.
As for Zoro, he's an exceptional case with whom i have higher hopes (with support of storyline as well) that he might not only surpasses Mihawk, previously title holder, but also reaches top 7 or 8 after the finale.
For those who already had a title previously, nothing can get changed because Oda already fixated there power level by giving them the title and with the feats and fall of Kaido who has best title amongst all, they naturally got there positions fixed.
But i don't think he'll have everything that either Luffy or Shanks has.
With story point of view, WSC >/~ WSS. WSS can't be get above WSC. So Luffy already either become equals to Mihawk level or surpassed him. Only exception is that Mihawk swords skill makes the fight reaching extreme diff.
Now only limited characters left, those with no titles but superior portrayal and high positions who has chance to shine in league above those with titles.
Like just after the fall of WSC Kaido, Oda made non title holder, Shanks to display a feat which is normal for him but totally in different class than what WSC showed in his whole fight in his own arc, which could even affect a mid/high top tier from miles away. Why showing such feat right after the fall of WSC clearly states Oda's intentions. While such feat could only be expected from Roger or Xebec in Flashback.
Later now he made Imu doing something in so casual way that none of the title holder could do. Though it's part of spoilers so i won't be going into details.
Dragon, the most mysterious and definitely a blackhorse to bet on.
While Akainu or someone from Goroseis could also either reach title holders level or amongst later one, someone might surpass them.
As for Zoro, he's an exceptional case with whom i have higher hopes (with support of storyline as well) that he might not only surpasses Mihawk, previously title holder, but also reaches top 7 or 8 after the finale.
For those who already had a title previously, nothing can get changed because Oda already fixated there power level by giving them the title and with the feats and fall of Kaido who has best title amongst all, they naturally got there positions fixed.
So Zoro said he's going to surpass all the fighters who are using swords....
Too bad when BM was around he was in bandages from head to toe and later again when he got up again, Oda put him against King rather than BM, a sword user. Zoro said he can't lose to any swordsman but Oda didn't even consider to put him against BM when he was around her most of the time. So Zoro didn't beat the best swordsman available in the arc but someone else dealt with that swordsman.
Though i would say don't always stick with a dialogues which said years ago rather than enjoy the current scenes. Even though he didn't got opportunity to fight swordsman like BM but Oda put him against King, he actually got 15 or something panels against BM's superior Kaido.
No insecurity if he surpasses Shanks coz if we go the way Luffy dreams his crew than he should be someone who surpasses Prime Rayleigh, but don't jump the guns coz there's still a long way for that. Oda has tendency not to show the story in the way readers wants.
Too bad when BM was around he was in bandages from head to toe and later again when he got up again, Oda put him against King rather than BM, a sword user. Zoro said he can't lose to any swordsman but Oda didn't even consider to put him against BM when he was around her most of the time. So Zoro didn't beat the best swordsman available in the arc but someone else dealt with that swordsman.
Though i would say don't always stick with a dialogues which said years ago rather than enjoy the current scenes. Even though he didn't got opportunity to fight swordsman like BM but Oda put him against King, he actually got 15 or something panels against BM's superior Kaido.
No insecurity if he surpasses Shanks coz if we go the way Luffy dreams his crew than he should be someone who surpasses Prime Rayleigh, but don't jump the guns coz there's still a long way for that. Oda has tendency not to show the story in the way readers wants.
Using sword doesn't make you swordsman. King is prime example. Likewise, you don't need to revolve your fighting style around just sword skills to even be swordsman, either; Cabaji is prime example.
The thing is, Shanks is confirmed swordsman as per author and canonical sources. He has been called both a Kengo and a Kenshi. That's what matters.
When did I say he will? Being overall stronger doesn't mean he has to have everything in their arsenal.
If Luffy is > Kaido, then yes, that means he's > Shanks/Mihawk. But I don't put Luffy > Kaido. Overall, I still have Kaido >~ Mihawk >= Shanks >~ Luffy. I have fresh Kaido high-extreme diff'ing a fresh Luffy in pure 1v1.
The thing is, Shanks is confirmed swordsman as per author and canonical sources. He has been called both a Kengo and a Kenshi. That's what matters.
When did I say he will? Being overall stronger doesn't mean he has to have everything in their arsenal.
With story point of view, WSC >/~ WSS. WSS can't be get above WSC. So Luffy already either become equals to Mihawk level or surpassed him. Only exception is that Mihawk swords skill makes the fight reaching extreme diff.
who tf needs a permission to take out the invaders..?? lol. only an idiot would need a permission to attack a Pirates (Yonko or not) when they are inside their main base. Lets consider maybe they needed a permission, why wasn't noone asking for it..?? VA Yamakaji asked for it the instance BB appeared however noone even raised a voice aside from Sengoku/ Garp when RHP appeared and outright challenged them to a fight.
Just like you said my mate :
I'm just giving an example from recent events to show just not jump on any thing which is said in dialogues years ago ....
The thing bigger and more important than the thing you said above is with the fall and full display of feats from best title holder is already showed and WSS comes after WSC so Mihawk got his level fixated. While juat after the fall of WSC, oda made shanks showing something which even WSC can't do, this fixates Shanks in better portrayal for now (feats and strength later in the series). While in between Mihawk and Shanks, Oda put SKILLS, so again I'll say don't jump everywhere in ride in two different boats with one leg in each.
I'll continue from the first quote, Oda has tendency to not follow story in the way readers wants.
But some power or feats set whole different power level. What Shanks showed is reserved for highest/Supreme level for now. That's why Oda showed such feats after fall of Kaido, WSC. Not even in the flashbacks of Oden or someone else, even though Roger definitely, and Xebec might also have such feats.
After defeating Kaido, the best title holder man, Luffy just got above rest title holders, coz there level is already fixated at either same level or below Kaido. While now as finale is approaching, oda showing non title holder, Supreme level characters making there moves. As mentioned above, like Imu or Shanks.
So for now it's only Luffy > Kaido >/~ Mihawk.
Coz Imu or someone amongst gorosei or Shanks or Dragon are definitely those who can surpass these previous title holders. Or if you believe the finale top guns won't be on the level of Kaido or Mihawk !?
I'm just giving an example from recent events to show just not jump on any thing which is said in dialogues years ago ....
The thing bigger and more important than the thing you said above is with the fall and full display of feats from best title holder is already showed and WSS comes after WSC so Mihawk got his level fixated. While juat after the fall of WSC, oda made shanks showing something which even WSC can't do, this fixates Shanks in better portrayal for now (feats and strength later in the series). While in between Mihawk and Shanks, Oda put SKILLS, so again I'll say don't jump everywhere in ride in two different boats with one leg in each.
I'll continue from the first quote, Oda has tendency to not follow story in the way readers wants.
But some power or feats set whole different power level. What Shanks showed is reserved for highest/Supreme level for now. That's why Oda showed such feats after fall of Kaido, WSC. Not even in the flashbacks of Oden or someone else, even though Roger definitely, and Xebec might also have such feats.
After defeating Kaido, the best title holder man, Luffy just got above rest title holders, coz there level is already fixated at either same level or below Kaido. While now as finale is approaching, oda showing non title holder, Supreme level characters making there moves. As mentioned above, like Imu or Shanks.
So for now it's only Luffy > Kaido >/~ Mihawk.
Coz Imu or someone amongst gorosei or Shanks or Dragon are definitely those who can surpass these previous title holders. Or if you believe the finale top guns won't be on the level of Kaido or Mihawk !?
Idk what you're trying to debate in regards to your first point.
Zoro says his ambition dictates he can't lose to any swordsman.
Just using a sword doesn't necessarily officially make you a swordsman. So, BM can be exception to it, just like King is.
However, Shanks is, by default, part of that ambition because he's canonically called a swordsman by Oda.
How do you disagree?
Also, most of the fanbase always said Shanks' CoC > any Yonko and is likely strongest in-verse for decade now. Shanks' recent showing of it isn't something that was unexpected lol. Even after Kaido's WSC announcement, we all still thought Shanks would have significantly higher CoC mastery.
After all, it's some regular-ass human with a sword. He has to excel in haki to keep up with Kaido with his DF and monstrous Oni shit and whatnot.
Even when you compare him to Mihawk, who is obviously a better fighter, on top of having CoA hype in Black Blade on top of having CoO hype in epithets and concepts, most assumed Shanks makes up for the gap with monstrous CoC.
Oda didn't show anything "unexpectedly new" with Shanks. He just gave justice to and confirmed opinion of literally everyone lol.
I just don't rate Luffy as stronger than Kaido yet, is all tbh. I think he'd still lose in a 1v1 fight. Though if he is stronger, then yes, the rating makes sense?
Though as far as EoS goe, this is my ranking; Prime Imu > Prime Gandhi > Kaido >~ Mihawk >= Shanks
Zoro says his ambition dictates he can't lose to any swordsman.
Just using a sword doesn't necessarily officially make you a swordsman. So, BM can be exception to it, just like King is.
However, Shanks is, by default, part of that ambition because he's canonically called a swordsman by Oda.
How do you disagree?
Also, most of the fanbase always said Shanks' CoC > any Yonko and is likely strongest in-verse for decade now. Shanks' recent showing of it isn't something that was unexpected lol. Even after Kaido's WSC announcement, we all still thought Shanks would have significantly higher CoC mastery.
After all, it's some regular-ass human with a sword. He has to excel in haki to keep up with Kaido with his DF and monstrous Oni shit and whatnot.
Even when you compare him to Mihawk, who is obviously a better fighter, on top of having CoA hype in Black Blade on top of having CoO hype in epithets and concepts, most assumed Shanks makes up for the gap with monstrous CoC.
Oda didn't show anything "unexpectedly new" with Shanks. He just gave justice to and confirmed opinion of literally everyone lol.
I just don't rate Luffy as stronger than Kaido yet, is all tbh. I think he'd still lose in a 1v1 fight. Though if he is stronger, then yes, the rating makes sense?
Though as far as EoS goe, this is my ranking; Prime Imu > Prime Gandhi > Kaido >~ Mihawk >= Shanks
Its just there frustration bro as why only Shanks has feats of such high level which is harming there favorites. Insecurity in there heart is quite visible and crying pepe emoji can't even describe the situation of tears making waterfall in there places/homes.
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You said this.... I'll send you almonds just like i sent Sheelajit to Shishio after his fight with noodles.
BM fighting with sword most of the time either in flashback or in reality even though she's a DF user.
Otherwise go through your first post which i quote.
And Kaido showed the importance and requirements of high level CoC in high top tier clashes.
While just after the fall of Kaido, Oda made Shanks making a clown out of solid top tier by just CoC from miles away. That's puts him in different position or league. Also Oda described how CoC works amongst user and target, if you want to go into more details.
Not lol my mate, it's just hinting your frustration as well as jealousy coz you all were busy before in making fun of either Shanks or Garp whenever there haki was talked about. And now you all are expecting Zoro to show similar feats in future coz as you all think, Shanks is swordsman and all the hype of Shanks is future hype for Zoro. But sadly Shanks feats will match with only Luffy in future or someone else outside SHs.
Poor Zoro, carrying so much burden of his fandom's expectations.
Don't you worry about that. During MF, Oda already gave a W for Shanks over Kaido offscreen while later Kaido putting Shanks amongst those who could fight him. Not even Garp, not even BigMom and not even Mihawk were there in Kaido's imagination.
Now you all will say Mihawk might not have fought Kaido, but what about Garp or BM. These two are definitely someone who Kaido saw fighting but still didn't put those two in his eyes just like Mihawk.
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You said this.... I'll send you almonds just like i sent Sheelajit to Shishio after his fight with noodles.
BM fighting with sword most of the time either in flashback or in reality even though she's a DF user.
Otherwise go through your first post which i quote.
And Kaido showed the importance and requirements of high level CoC in high top tier clashes.
While just after the fall of Kaido, Oda made Shanks making a clown out of solid top tier by just CoC from miles away. That's puts him in different position or league. Also Oda described how CoC works amongst user and target, if you want to go into more details.
Not lol my mate, it's just hinting your frustration as well as jealousy coz you all were busy before in making fun of either Shanks or Garp whenever there haki was talked about. And now you all are expecting Zoro to show similar feats in future coz as you all think, Shanks is swordsman and all the hype of Shanks is future hype for Zoro. But sadly Shanks feats will match with only Luffy in future or someone else outside SHs.
Poor Zoro, carrying so much burden of his fandom's expectations.
Don't you worry about that. During MF, Oda already gave a W for Shanks over Kaido offscreen while later Kaido putting Shanks amongst those who could fight him. Not even Garp, not even BigMom and not even Mihawk were there in Kaido's imagination.
Now you all will say Mihawk might not have fought Kaido, but what about Garp or BM. These two are definitely someone who Kaido saw fighting but still didn't put those two in his eyes just like Mihawk.
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Its just there frustration bro as why only Shanks has feats of such high level which is harming there favorites. Insecurity in there heart is quite visible and crying pepe emoji can't even describe the situation of tears making waterfall in there places/homes.
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You said this.... I'll send you almonds just like i sent Sheelajit to Shishio after his fight with noodles.
BM fighting with sword most of the time either in flashback or in reality even though she's a DF user.
Otherwise go through your first post which i quote.
And Kaido showed the importance and requirements of high level CoC in high top tier clashes.
While just after the fall of Kaido, Oda made Shanks making a clown out of solid top tier by just CoC from miles away. That's puts him in different position or league. Also Oda described how CoC works amongst user and target, if you want to go into more details.
Not lol my mate, it's just hinting your frustration as well as jealousy coz you all were busy before in making fun of either Shanks or Garp whenever there haki was talked about. And now you all are expecting Zoro to show similar feats in future coz as you all think, Shanks is swordsman and all the hype of Shanks is future hype for Zoro. But sadly Shanks feats will match with only Luffy in future or someone else outside SHs.
Poor Zoro, carrying so much burden of his fandom's expectations.
Don't you worry about that. During MF, Oda already gave a W for Shanks over Kaido offscreen while later Kaido putting Shanks amongst those who could fight him. Not even Garp, not even BigMom and not even Mihawk were there in Kaido's imagination.
Now you all will say Mihawk might not have fought Kaido, but what about Garp or BM. These two are definitely someone who Kaido saw fighting but still didn't put those two in his eyes just like Mihawk.
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You said this.... I'll send you almonds just like i sent Sheelajit to Shishio after his fight with noodles.
BM fighting with sword most of the time either in flashback or in reality even though she's a DF user.
Otherwise go through your first post which i quote.
And Kaido showed the importance and requirements of high level CoC in high top tier clashes.
While just after the fall of Kaido, Oda made Shanks making a clown out of solid top tier by just CoC from miles away. That's puts him in different position or league. Also Oda described how CoC works amongst user and target, if you want to go into more details.
Not lol my mate, it's just hinting your frustration as well as jealousy coz you all were busy before in making fun of either Shanks or Garp whenever there haki was talked about. And now you all are expecting Zoro to show similar feats in future coz as you all think, Shanks is swordsman and all the hype of Shanks is future hype for Zoro. But sadly Shanks feats will match with only Luffy in future or someone else outside SHs.
Poor Zoro, carrying so much burden of his fandom's expectations.
Don't you worry about that. During MF, Oda already gave a W for Shanks over Kaido offscreen while later Kaido putting Shanks amongst those who could fight him. Not even Garp, not even BigMom and not even Mihawk were there in Kaido's imagination.
Now you all will say Mihawk might not have fought Kaido, but what about Garp or BM. These two are definitely someone who Kaido saw fighting but still didn't put those two in his eyes just like Mihawk.
Other than that, again... I'm not saying using a sword makes you swordsman. I don't care about that.
It's just that Oda canonically called Shanks swordsman. So he's a swordsman. And thus will be weaker than WSS Zoro by default. That's literally it. Zoro is one of our protagonists and his dream will not be meaningless.
Your entire post is weird. You either have some insecurities here or you're in weird generalizing mood, because 99% of shit you're saying is something I've never said, nor have given a single fuck about. I've always given Shanks credit where it's due, but you can go complain to people you've actually seen downplaying him? Don't post walls about it to me.
I'm not even certain that EoS Zoro will have same CoC mastery as Shanks 100%. Just that he'll overall be superior, which is as much a fact as Luffy becoming Pirate King.
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I believe you should go through your own quoted msg coz i already answered for what you quoted me from the beginning. While you made jumble of whole thing above.
Otherwise you can quit because I'm not sure what you can't understand.
Also contradiction started from here with this post of yours coz you are not backi g up what you said :
While i said in Wano Zoro didn't beat the strongest opponent sword user in wano that is BM.
Otherwise you can quit because I'm not sure what you can't understand.
Also contradiction started from here with this post of yours coz you are not backi g up what you said :
While i said in Wano Zoro didn't beat the strongest opponent sword user in wano that is BM.
You... didn't answer anything. You keep bringing up BM and talking about sword users. Both are irrelevant to the fact that sword users aren't swordsmen always but Shanks is canonically one. And Zoro's dream is to be > swordsmen, not all sword users.
Sword users =\= swordsmen.
Only those who are confirmed to be swordsmen by manga or Oda are swordsmen. BM ain't one of them.
Sword users =\= swordsmen.
Only those who are confirmed to be swordsmen by manga or Oda are swordsmen. BM ain't one of them.
So when most of the highest AP or destructive attacks of BM are based on uses of swords, that doesn't make her relevant swordsman. Though i understand it hasn't been clearly states that she is a swordsman but most of her best attacks are based on sword. While she's a DF user as well so she also has different fighting style as well (that is with promatheus and zeus).
Also this line of yours doesn't matter in BM's case :
I get it in the manga there isn't any clear proof that she's a swordsman but her best attacks are all based on swords, so she should be considered as one of the swordsmen. Or you'll accept this when she has a sword style like Oden, Zoro or Vista has !?
Also this line of yours doesn't matter in BM's case :
I get it in the manga there isn't any clear proof that she's a swordsman but her best attacks are all based on swords, so she should be considered as one of the swordsmen. Or you'll accept this when she has a sword style like Oden, Zoro or Vista has !?
1. They are all great Law keepers yet they do shit like work with pirates. Sengoku stop the war, we know you need permission to attack Yonkous. Your literally Coping. You still haven't explained why fodders ran to their death at WB
2. Actually it implies that Shanks wanted to SAVE FACE. Literally whats stated.
3. Fear the outcome? The Yonkous not beating the WG. Bro its literally stated by Shanks he wanted to save face. He was not in a favorable position.
2. Actually it implies that Shanks wanted to SAVE FACE. Literally whats stated.
3. Fear the outcome? The Yonkous not beating the WG. Bro its literally stated by Shanks he wanted to save face. He was not in a favorable position.
BM is not a swordsman because she's not called a swordsman in manga. She's not called a swordsman by author. That's why she's not a swordsman unless stated otherwise
Not to mention a huge part of her arsenal is unrelated to swords, too. Either way, you and I don't get to decide who's a swordsman and who's not. Too much headcanon.
Zoro has explicitly said that as long as his opponent is considered a swordsman, he can't lose. We can't really put BM a part of that dream if she's not considered a swordsmanship canonically. Just like King isn't.
Not to mention a huge part of her arsenal is unrelated to swords, too. Either way, you and I don't get to decide who's a swordsman and who's not. Too much headcanon.
Zoro has explicitly said that as long as his opponent is considered a swordsman, he can't lose. We can't really put BM a part of that dream if she's not considered a swordsmanship canonically. Just like King isn't.
This chapter confirms that you need orders to engage with a Yonkou. Even when that Yonkou attacks you first because of starting a war
Which we see GB also does when he tries to hide his intentions from Akainu about attacking Luffy hoping that capturing/Killing Luffy would out way him not getting clearance
So when you see the Marines standing around, they were waiting for orders from Sengoku, not because they are scared. They were literally fighting WB before that. Shanks also knew he was in an unfavorable position which is why he said LET ME SAVE FACE
Which we see GB also does when he tries to hide his intentions from Akainu about attacking Luffy hoping that capturing/Killing Luffy would out way him not getting clearance
So when you see the Marines standing around, they were waiting for orders from Sengoku, not because they are scared. They were literally fighting WB before that. Shanks also knew he was in an unfavorable position which is why he said LET ME SAVE FACE
This chapter confirms that you need orders to engage with a Yonkou. Even when that Yonkou attacks you first because of starting a war
Which we see GB also does when he tries to hide his intentions from Akainu about attacking Luffy hoping that capturing/Killing Luffy would out way him not getting clearance
So when you see the Marines standing around, they were waiting for orders from Sengoku, not because they are scared. They were literally fighting WB before that. Shanks also knew he was in an unfavorable position which is why he said LET ME SAVE FACE
Which we see GB also does when he tries to hide his intentions from Akainu about attacking Luffy hoping that capturing/Killing Luffy would out way him not getting clearance
So when you see the Marines standing around, they were waiting for orders from Sengoku, not because they are scared. They were literally fighting WB before that. Shanks also knew he was in an unfavorable position which is why he said LET ME SAVE FACE
