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They won't have a final battle. Oda made it clear the moment luffy helped him out the first time and he let luffy and zoro go.

The next time we see him was in marine Ford. Where he looked impressive by that was only becuase luffy couldn't hurt him since he didn't have armament haki and because luffy was more focused trying to save his brother.

The next we see him luffy was casually laughing at the sight of seeing a dear friend smoker. He was no longer a threat to luffy.

He lost to law

Lost to vergo

Had to help the same law get his heart back from vergo for law to save them

The same law joined luffy

Smoker then lost to doffy.

The same law had to beg luffy in helping beat doffy.

Luffy beat doffy. Hell even before Gear 4 doffy didn't treat luffy the same he did smoker.

And the list goes on.

Smoker will get stronger but the most he will ever be is yc1 level. Now if oda gives him coc which he won't since he is already Shanks age and doesn't have these things then you may had had a case
All these people you mentioned that Smoker lost against would ragdoll Coby
 
Croc lost to a hakiless Luffy and is now viewed as commander level
That's cool. I never said smoker wasn't going to be commander level though. I said he wasn't being build up to be a luffybtier person..

Oda should have literally made smoker an admiral and replaced greenbull. Or atleast he should have made smoker a vice admiral that was hyped as being next in line to be admiral incase anything were to happen to a previous one
 
All these people you mentioned that Smoker lost against would ragdoll Coby
Cool

1. We have zero facts on that since coby has been fighting more competent people than doffy.
Boas fruit is more hated yet didn't work on him

And bb said he helped him against a rocks pirate.

2. Coby was fodder at the age of 16 and in 2years is more impressive than several vice admirals and called a hero. Now tell me why smoker who was introduced as a 34 year old didn't get this type of recognition pre and post tineskip?
 
Interesting fun fact:

It is currently unknown if there is minimum age requirement for joining the Marines. Canonically, the youngest known person to enlist in the Marines is Koby, who joined at the age of sixteen. Non-canonically, the youngest known person to enlist is Zephyr, who joined at the age of fourteen.

Shanks: 38
Smoker::37
Aoikiji: 49
Akainu: 55
Kizaru: 56
Mihawk: 42

Luffy: 19
Coby: 19
Zoro: 21
Sanji: 21

Younger generation!!!
How are Coby and Luffy the same age bruv? Coby is 18
 

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Interesting fun fact:

It is currently unknown if there is minimum age requirement for joining the Marines. Canonically, the youngest known person to enlist in the Marines is Koby, who joined at the age of sixteen. Non-canonically, the youngest known person to enlist is Zephyr, who joined at the age of fourteen.

Shanks: 38
Smoker::37
Aoikiji: 49
Akainu: 55
Kizaru: 56
Mihawk: 42

Luffy: 19
Coby: 19
Zoro: 21
Sanji: 21

Younger generation!!!
Just noticed Smoker is just a year younger than Shanks:kobeha:
 
The person who’s beaten chased and fought luffy throughout the world isn’t set up to be luffys garp, but Coby fans think the person luffy fought twice (one shotting him both times) will be?

Yeah makes zero sense
Yes a 40nyear old chasing a 17 year old that has surpassed since isn't a great garp parallel at all unless you tell me garp had to be 15 to 20 years older than rodger before being his rival lol
 
Yes a 40nyear old chasing a 17 year old that has surpassed since isn't a great garp parallel at all unless you tell me garp had to be 15 to 20 years older than rodger before being his rival lol
No but rivals are usually rivels from day one that they meet. And they are always relatively close to each other. None of the Marines match that description - they were either significantly weaker or significantly stronger than Luffy.

And now he's outgrown them all and only the admirals and Akainu can give him serious fights
 
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