Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1061 Spoilers Discussion

[JohnnyBme]

Yes but luffy fought kaido with advcoc in g4 and he couldn't win, if the thing that made him get the edge on kaido is g5 then haki doesn't transcend all, also when another yonko big mom gets "defeated" without haki adds to it.

GODA will reverse that end of series for subversive affirmations

 

[NAMELESS]

1000% agreed. Smoker’s just a lot more interesting in general.
Chad Smoker >>>>> Virgin Coby

Smoker never won a real fight in panel but he is not weak:captured east blue Luffy,fought Ace,did well vs Law and Vergo.This mofo will shine yet.

 

[kratosś]

you lot are making the same mistake I made with kidd and law asking for their feats prior to wano
the amount of power creeping
you will see with coby will shock the lot of you. you just know that abduction plot is to make him a major part of the fight against the BB pirates. he is going to be very relevant whether you like it or not.



narrative matters a lot more than your idea of what their PL is.


why do you hate him so much lmao

I hope he helps luffy defeat bbp tbh as we need another commander to fight the bbp anyway.

This way he might not end up like konohamaru

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Smoker > Koby

Oda will make that turd Koby stronger unfortunately but he'll never be as badass as Smoker

Just saying, only one of them captured an emperor

 

[notAfanboy]

We are back to spoiler drought.
Better to wait for the TCB on next Friday.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Yes but luffy fought kaido with advcoc in g4 and he couldn't win, if the thing that made him get the edge on kaido is g5 then haki doesn't transcend all, also when another yonko big mom gets "defeated" without haki adds to it.

I think the right interpretation would be
roger proved with haki alone you could become the strongest . luffy obv doesn't have a comparable level of haki yet.

and kaido is saying with abilities alone , That can't be done.
the right counterargument to his statement was if luffy became the strongest without haki . He is clearly using haki with his g5 attacks.

to the big mom point , she got beat in a team fight ....not entirely sure those are fair circumstances .

 

[kratosś]

Look at the goats in my signature
then you have this

He had a lot of potential and he still does, hope he does something good other than being a damsel in the bb arc

 

[Rocks D. Buggy]

Akainus era is not Luffy Koby or Smokers era. Smoker and Koby represent the new age of marines

why does that matter to my point ? my point is THE STRONGEST MARINE is the PIRATE KING's rival and that's just Sakazuki BY FAR , unless you think Smoker/Koby jump 20 levels in few months , they CANT compete

 

[Tensub]

Why is everyone dunking on Kobe here? He was pretty good imo

He bricked too many shots. He holds the record for most missed shots in NBA history

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I hope he helps luffy defeat bbp tbh as we need another commander to fight the bbp anyway.

This way he might not end up like konohamaru

if you watch that disaster of a series called boruto
the way they did konohamaru

 

[rerere]

All facts. Damn you making me mad lol..

I so hated the way that vergo was handled. Someone should have saved him and his cover never been blown. Or simply have vergo be like a triple agent and screw over doffy while still having in the story.

Can you imagine a marine sword organization with:

Coby
Vergo
Smoker
Aoikiji
Garp
Drake (if he wasn't done so dirty)

Tbh I liked the way Vergo was handled, and I enjoyed his blind loyalty to Doffy.
Doflamingo spent some of his few sincere words to thank his RHM, and Vergo died smiling.
Don't misinterpret my words, he was a piece of shit, but he was good in his job. And that is the thing I value the most.

Aside from Vergo a lot of the guys you mentioned could be SWORD...
Drake is confirmed SWORD Captain and Coby is his subordinate, which makes Coby a SWORD too... (?)
Garp TRAINED Coby, this means that he could even be SWORD leader. If that's not the case, he collaborates with SWORD at the very least.
Kuzan... he could be a member of SWORD but he could also be acting as a lone wolf fr. Better to wait for him.
As for Smoker, I guess we'll find out soon.

Drake done dirty? Yeah but also No.
I think community tends to overtrash him, considering what he faced.

 

[ShinichiMugi]

No new spoilers?

 

[Rocks D. Buggy]

Luffy will job to smoker
And this tattoo is very suspicious, can’t just be something random.

yea , would add an insanely good twist to Sakazuki as a character , that he fights CP0 and has his own morality ... cause it would be boring to just make him BAD AND A DOG as well

 

[MonsterZoro]

I am going to go buy some ramen and eating it for my diet

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

No new spoilers?

Nope. Wait for the raws.

 

[kratosś]

if you watch that disaster of a series called boruto
the way they did konohamaru

I don't watch boruto, what did they do?

 

[Herrera95]

1. Cool but kaido never seemed to have looked at whitebeard in the same vein as rodger. Ontop of that kaido stated that rdoger was able to reach the top with only haki. Rodger indoctrinated to kaido Vai actions that haki >>> all.

2. He literally stated that rodger was at the top.

3. Yes and no. Shanks is comparable to kaido with only haki. Which means enough haki>>>> haki plus a fruit. However mihawk is the strongest curently right now

4. It doesn't change though. While fighting kaido luffy had to step his haki game up. Against katakjri he had to step it up. Why? Because if both characters with amazing fruits clash the only thing that separates them is the haki between them. Luffys entire arsenal with gears included wasn't helping him until he learned advanced ryou.

1. Did Kaido ever talked a shit about WB? No, so we can't know what Kaido thought about WB. He is part of 5 shadows as much as Roger.

2. Again, where is he stating that Roger was at the top? Like above other top tiers?

3. Cap. No one says that Shanks is comparable to Kaido and even less that Shanks haki matches Kaido's haki + DF. Like Kaido said only haki matters so only Kaido haki makes him the strongest. Now you are contradicting yourself.

4. Luffy at the end of Katakuri fight didn't used haki he used his DF. A new transformation of it. Against Kaido same shit, the new haki abilities he learned wasn't enough. He had to again use his gears.

 

[GoldDiamond]

Just saying, only one of them captured an emperor

Smoker against a shibuachki with marine help.

Koby didn't get this treatment on a superior shibuachki honestly.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Current smoker negs doffy

What are you smoking?

It's possible Smoker gets that strong, but, we have no idea, yet.

INB4 Smoker is an Admiral of Sword.

 

[HellBlazer04]

you lot are making the same mistake I made with kidd and law asking for their feats prior to wano
the amount of power creeping
you will see with coby will shock the lot of you. you just know that abduction plot is to make him a major part of the fight against the BB pirates. he is going to be very relevant whether you like it or not.



narrative matters a lot more than your idea of what their PL is.

You can make the same case for smoker as well. You people think there is huge distinction in their portrayal just because of "Hero" title.

People making coby parallel with Garp, yet Roger who fought Garp many times still mentions Sengoku in the same breath as Garp the Hero.

As far as I can see coby and smoker still have equal portrayal.