General & Others What Should Oda Do with Kuzan? Ally or Opp?

Should he be an Ally or Opp?


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#44
Right.Aokiji for revolutinary army is my bet.They need heavy hitters after all.Dragon+Kuzan+A powered up Sabo could take on admirals.
I'm not too fond of Kuzan joining the RA tbh. Like before Greenbull got revealed, some speculate that he was working for the RA which is not the case after his introduction. I don't think any Admirals will align with the RA imo. But I do agree that the RA needs some heavy hitters.

My own personal theory was that Dragon is an former Admiral but then established the RA after discovering the dark truth of the World Government.
 
#45
I'm not too fond of Kuzan joining the RA tbh. Like before Greenbull got revealed, some speculate that he was working for the RA which is not the case after his introduction. I don't think any Admirals will align with the RA imo. But I do agree that the RA needs some heavy hitters.

My own personal theory was that Dragon is an former Admiral but then established the RA after discovering the dark truth of the World Government.
Maybe.Some people speculate that since the east blue saga,so i think Oda already scrapped the former admiral idea.He likes to "subvert" expectations after all.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#46
I don’t expect anything else from Oda, imo his interaction with Smoker in PH ruined any chances of good writing.
Here’s a scenario of how I’d write it: loses to Akainu after 10 days of brutal combat and loses a limb, leaves the marines, WG sends people after him to restore his fruit/ assassinate him & family for secrets or whatever, which then leads him to the point of madness. A rogue admiral plotline would be so fucking good but Oda has no balls.
That's corny af. Kuzan's whole schtick is being laidback, calm and collected.
 
#47
Maybe.Some people speculate that since the east blue saga,so i think Oda already scrapped the former admiral idea.He likes to "subvert" expectations after all.
But here's the problem. No one, not even Smoker, has yet to mention Dragon being a former Admiral. Like Dragon is the most wanted man famous worldwide yet you don't see anybody addressing him being an former Admiral.

Like in Film Z, Zephyr at least got mentioned as being a rogue/former Admiral but not the case with Dragon so far. Unless people got brainwashed by Imu somehow lol.
 
#48
But here's the problem. No one, not even Smoker, has yet to mention Dragon being a former Admiral. Like Dragon is the most wanted man famous worldwide yet you don't see anybody addressing him being an former Admiral.

Like in Film Z, Zephyr at least got mentioned as being a rogue/former Admiral but not the case with Dragon so far. Unless people got brainwashed by Imu somehow lol.
yeah,Dragon being an admiral is unlikely.He probably has a story similar to Sabo.He might have escaped from Garp's tutelage very young too.
 
#49
That's corny af. Kuzan's whole schtick is being laidback, calm and collected.
I’m pro author don’t question my decisions
But seriously he can still be calm and collected but as a cold blooded murderer (against the WG not civilians). Kuzan has claimed countless lives in the government’s name so it really takes a lot for a person like him to maintain a somewhat good perspective on the world, so if at some point the WG would pressure him through his loved ones e.g., to the point where he feels the weight of the atrocities he committed throughout his life, someone like him would be the most prone to a mental breakdown.

He was calm and collected back then considering he was an admiral, and that helps him a lot if he doesn’t want to become a terminator like Sakazuki, but now that urge to control himself is gone, and if the faction he served for so long is now trying to erase him, he going rogue.
 
#50
yeah,Dragon being an admiral is unlikely.He probably has a story similar to Sabo.He might have escaped from Garp's tutelage very young too.
Then you got the second theory which is Dragon being a former Cipher Pol just like Who's Who of the Beast Pirates. That would filled out the part where nobody mentions him as much as he's being used to be in the secret force of the WG.
 
#51
That's corny af. Kuzan's whole schtick is being laidback, calm and collected.
A twist in his persona would actually be good writing.Sengoku said he doesn't usually show much emotion but when Akainu demanded to get promoved the Ice dude went hot headed.
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Then you got the second theory which is Dragon being a former Cipher Pol just like Who's Who of the Beast Pirates. That would filled out the part where nobody mentions him as much as he's being used to be in the secret force of the WG.
That could work,never heard that one.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#52
I’m pro author don’t question my decisions
But seriously he can still be calm and collected but as a cold blooded murderer (against the WG not civilians). Kuzan has claimed countless lives in the government’s name so it really takes a lot for a person like him to maintain a somewhat good perspective on the world, so if at some point the WG would pressure him through his loved ones e.g., to the point where he feels the weight of the atrocities he committed throughout his life, someone like him would be the most prone to a mental breakdown.

He was calm and collected back then considering he was an admiral, and that helps him a lot if he doesn’t want to become a terminator like Sakazuki, but now that urge to control himself is gone, and if the faction he served for so long is now trying to erase him, he going rogue.
lmaoooo stick to your day job this is so corny man.

Like I get the general idea, if you were writing a concept character but it just doesn't fit with Kuzan's identity, at worst a twist like that can't just be delivered in a shocking manner it has to be shown overtime and Kuzan simply doesn't have enough panel time to have that be executed without it coming off as corny. Neutral ground at worst is best for Kuzan I feel, he doesn't have to be pro Navy but he doesn't need to go all Joker (mixed with Scar) on our asses either lol.
 
#53
lmaoooo stick to your day job this is so corny man.

Like I get the general idea, if you were writing a concept character but it just doesn't fit with Kuzan's identity, at worst a twist like that can't just be delivered in a shocking manner it has to be shown overtime and Kuzan simply doesn't have enough panel time to have that be executed without it coming off as corny. Neutral ground at worst is best for Kuzan I feel, he doesn't have to be pro Navy but he doesn't need to go all Joker (mixed with Scar) on our asses either lol.
Dude this is peak fiction, we are living in a world where Luffy can bend space through the power of imagination and Imu nukes islands with a single click lol
I did say in my first post that any chance for a rogue Kuzan died with Punk Hazard comeback, but if handled well post timeskip people would be head over heels over Kuzan, these kind of twists are what draw people in
 
#55
I don't know whats going on but @Egghead needed to be banned. Obvious troll
To summarize, Seth and Egghead throwing hands at each other cuz they don't agree about Zoro and Sanji match-ups for the Blackbeard Pirates arc then they started to calling each other "mosshead" and "candy boy" in a vulgar way. Insults flying around and they got banned as the result. The end.
 
#58
To summarize, Seth and Egghead throwing hands at each other cuz they don't agree about Zoro and Sanji match-ups for the Blackbeard Pirates arc then they started to calling each other "mosshead" and "candy boy" in a vulgar way. Insults flying around and they got banned as the result. The end.
Zoro and Sanji stuff is the most immature shit ever.This show is about mysteries,not Sanji and Zoro.They are side kicks.
 
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