Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1065 Spoilers Discussion

[Peroroncino]

@AdmiralKoniroryu i need a favor it has nothing to do with spoilers

 

[Julius]

Oda is making Sanji too strong, im afraid he will be Top 3 EoS

 

[Peroroncino]

 

[Seatonnes]

@AdmiralKoniroryu i need a favor it has nothing to do with spoilers

ok?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I think he got smarter. Being smarter can make a difference in a fight. His arrogance made him lazy and he relied almost entirely on tactics, tbh I doubt he really even had an actual fight since he took over arabasta or not long after he started baroque works (which ever came first)

Tbh i don't think crocodile could even gauge his own power during arabasta BC he was that outta practice

Not just that; remember OG Crocodile canonically fought Primebeard. And non canonically fought someone = Prime Rayleigh to a draw.

Crocodile in Alabasta was a broken version of his past self. He’s changed since then. The Baroque works break out Cover Story showed that.

 

[Sentinel]

Yeah, but back in alabasta crocodile didn’t want any water. Now he’s fighting warships in the middle of the ocean.

He clearly grew

Nah his abilities just got retconned.

Back in Pre-TS, Haki wasn't even introduced so Luffy needed an actual counter to deal with Crocodile's logia powers. Maybe elemental advantages would work for weak logia users relying too much on their DF, like Caribou, but Crocodile was hardly inexperienced. It's the contrast. Crocodile possibly has awakening as well.

But now that Haki was introduced and fleshed out throughout the end of Pre-TS and current Post-TS, there's no need for Oda to draw massive situations of match-up depending circumstances when it comes to logia users.
Each logia user will have an answer against attacks holding an elemental advantage over theirs. The answer will mostly be Haki anway.

So now that Haki is there, people don't always have to rely on water to even hit Crocodile but it's also vice versa since Crocodile doesn't have to lose against characters using water on him. He should have tools to deal with water based techniques as well. Otherwise, Jinbe would simply neg diff him with some water sources - this can't obviously work. Warlords aren't and shouldn't be that easily replacable.

 

[Peroroncino]

ok?

can you switch this german flag for the brazil one?

 

[WizardKing]

Oda dont give sanji coc haki cause he will be able to knock out female opponents without having to kick them. And only luffy has coc haki by the strawhats

 

[Peroroncino]

Nah his abilities just got retconned.

Back in Pre-TS, Haki wasn't even introduced so Luffy needed an actual counter to deal with Crocodile's logia powers. Maybe elemental advantages would work for weak logia users relying too much on their DF, like Caribou, but Crocodile was hardly inexperienced. It's the contrast. Crocodile possibly has awakening as well.

But now that Haki was introduced and fleshed out throughout the end of Pre-TS and current Post-TS, there's no need for Oda to draw massive situations of match-up depending circumstances when it comes to logia users.
Each logia user will have an answer against attacks holding an elemental advantage over theirs. The answer will mostly be Haki anway.

So now that Haki is there, people don't always have to rely on water to even hit Crocodile but it's also vice versa since Crocodile doesn't have to lose against characters using water on him. He should have tools to deal with water based techniques as well. Otherwise, Jinbe would simply neg diff him with some water sources - this can't obviously work. Warlords aren't and shouldn't be that easily replacable.

you're overthinking too much neither did his abilities grow nor did he got retconned, crocodile is simply confident enough he can win even while fighting on warships next to the sea,that's all there is to it.

 

[Seatonnes]

can you switch this german flag for the brazil one?

 

[Peroroncino]

thanks man

 

[MonochromeYoru]

ok?

Always say no to strangers

 

[SakazOuki]

And only luffy has coc haki by the strawhats

You seem to be new to slander, you don’t downplay characters by denying what they have but instead downplay their power, in this case you should downplay CoC.

 

[Seatonnes]

Always say no to strangers

 

[Peroroncino]

You seem to be new to slander, you don’t downplay characters by denying what they have but instead downplay their power, in this case you should downplay CoC.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

You seem to be new to slander, you don’t downplay characters by denying what they have but instead downplay their power, in this case you should downplay CoC.

 

[Seatonnes]

thanks man

i fucked up heres a better one

 

[Peppercat]

Not sure Vegapunk might actually be a genius if the technology is actually from the past and sold as cutting edge technology.

Wouldn't surprise me if the WG was in posession of technological knowledge this entire time and just pretend its new discoveries.

Which would mean, they do require someone as a puppet who can merely act as a super genius who invented all this stuff himself.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Wait, Teach was a warlord, so normally we should have his seraphim?????

Law was also a Warlord

 

[Peroroncino]

i fucked up heres a better one

that's not the australian flag