Character Discussion Is Yuta Really the Second Strongest?

#1
Title says it all. Most Yuta fans will place him second behind Gojo because of this
statement:


And many argue that the narrator saying it makes it true. But what does it mean to be second in unusual abilities?

Here is a thread by a well-known translator in the fandom, who often provides insight and analysis of JJK and its translations.


OP’s conclusion: “ … Truth is, I think that would be a fairly safe bet. It’s imbued into the implications of the comparison. However, Gege also has a tendency to be clear on certain notions & if he wanted to declare that then he would have just straight up said it, e.g. 現代の強者, 次ぐ現代の最強”

“ Therefore, I believe Gege deliberately used 異能 to provide an amount of leeway & flexibility into the discussion. We have ppl like Hakari who Yuta claims is > than him on a roll; anomalies like Maki; unknown SGs like Yuki; or even debatable categories like Kenjaku in Geto’s body”

“ So while Yuta’s position next to Gojo is a highly probable assessment, there is SOME room for debate as other characters as they all grow, including Yuta himself. Unlike Gojo, whom Gege constantly makes clear as the modern era’s strongest w/ no room for doubt”


Personally I agree with this assessment that there is room for debate to his ranking as Yuta’s performance in Sendai made it hard to believe for me that he is on the level of a country overtaker.

What do yall think?
 
#2
Title says it all. Most Yuta fans will place him second behind Gojo because of this
statement:


And many argue that the narrator saying it makes it true. But what does it mean to be second in unusual abilities?

Here is a thread by a well-known translator in the fandom, who often provides insight and analysis of JJK and its translations.


OP’s conclusion: “ … Truth is, I think that would be a fairly safe bet. It’s imbued into the implications of the comparison. However, Gege also has a tendency to be clear on certain notions & if he wanted to declare that then he would have just straight up said it, e.g. 現代の強者, 次ぐ現代の最強”

“ Therefore, I believe Gege deliberately used 異能 to provide an amount of leeway & flexibility into the discussion. We have ppl like Hakari who Yuta claims is > than him on a roll; anomalies like Maki; unknown SGs like Yuki; or even debatable categories like Kenjaku in Geto’s body”

“ So while Yuta’s position next to Gojo is a highly probable assessment, there is SOME room for debate as other characters as they all grow, including Yuta himself. Unlike Gojo, whom Gege constantly makes clear as the modern era’s strongest w/ no room for doubt”


Personally I agree with this assessment that there is room for debate to his ranking as Yuta’s performance in Sendai made it hard to believe for me that he is on the level of a country overtaker.

What do yall think?
He is and if Kenjaku believes otherwise it's because he didn't experience Yutas full might the Yuta that beat Geto was still a learner the Yuta now has better developed abilities

I don't think Kenjaku can win this Yuta could even copy Hakari or Gojo

For me he is the strongest
 
#6
Yuki>yuta
Yuta is overrated
Kenjaku thiks how can he even beat a beast like yuki
Meanwhile about yuta" i dont see what everyone sees in him"
Actually a good point.

Kenjaku dismissed Yuta and even said that Geto woulda won if he used his entire curse stock arsenal against his Love Beam.

Yuta’s ability to unconditionally copy CTs and boundless CE came from OG Rika.

Yuta is highly nerfed right now with that 5-min timer. Outside of that/Full Rika, I don’t see him beating the other SG sorcerers. If he overcomes the time limit and Full Rika stays on he MIGHT have a shot at beating Yuki. Yuki isn’t even showing her full power yet either though.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#9
For the moment he’s the most appropriate candidate. His hax itself near impossible for anything but 4-5 character. To have any realistic argument to say they can handle.

yuki ability pretty broken too but I need more…
He's the definition of zenkai boosting.
Every fight he takes & with every ability that he copies, he gets more stronger/versatile.
Combined with near bottomless CE & extremely advanced RCT (easily healing poisons which apparently needs advanced levels) also being able to output Reversed CE in offense.
And then the ability to copy CT on top of it.
He's damn near broken.

I keep getting the feeling Kenjaku's been underestimating Yuta and that'd be his downfall eventually.
 
F

Formerly Seth

#10
He is. As far as Jujutsu ( good guys ) go.

Virgin Yuta barely started learning Jujutsu ( mind you not from the scratch he was an HS student age ) and defeated Geto without any boosts he gained overseas after he became 2nd class and not Domain Expansion.

Kenjaku is coping because Yuta is not the ideal Jujutsu Sorcerer for him. For Kenjaku ideal Jujutsu sorcerer learns the craft from the age he is able to walk and talk. Yuta is an anomaly that he prefers to overlook.

"If Geto didn't spread his powers too much". If if. Who the fuck cares? Special Grade Sorcerer was retarded to spread his powers too much? That's his fault!

Yuta is now stronger than he ever was. Hakari is just a time-limit plot armor. Yuta would just work around him and kill him when he doesn't hit the Jackpot.


Mind you we are yet to see most of the abilities Yuta learned, he didn't use everything he has in his Colony.
 
C

Cruxroux

#11
Title says it all. Most Yuta fans will place him second behind Gojo because of this
statement:


And many argue that the narrator saying it makes it true. But what does it mean to be second in unusual abilities?

Here is a thread by a well-known translator in the fandom, who often provides insight and analysis of JJK and its translations.


OP’s conclusion: “ … Truth is, I think that would be a fairly safe bet. It’s imbued into the implications of the comparison. However, Gege also has a tendency to be clear on certain notions & if he wanted to declare that then he would have just straight up said it, e.g. 現代の強者, 次ぐ現代の最強”

“ Therefore, I believe Gege deliberately used 異能 to provide an amount of leeway & flexibility into the discussion. We have ppl like Hakari who Yuta claims is > than him on a roll; anomalies like Maki; unknown SGs like Yuki; or even debatable categories like Kenjaku in Geto’s body”

“ So while Yuta’s position next to Gojo is a highly probable assessment, there is SOME room for debate as other characters as they all grow, including Yuta himself. Unlike Gojo, whom Gege constantly makes clear as the modern era’s strongest w/ no room for doubt”

Personally I agree with this assessment that there is room for debate to his ranking as Yuta’s performance in Sendai made it hard to believe for me that he is on the level of a country overtaker.

What do yall think?
If we are not talking about sukuna and special grade curses. He might be number 2 but there are always some wild entry later on in every manga "hidden " for reasons.
 
#13
He is. As far as Jujutsu ( good guys ) go.

Virgin Yuta barely started learning Jujutsu ( mind you not from the scratch he was an HS student age ) and defeated Geto without any boosts he gained overseas after he became 2nd class and not Domain Expansion.

Kenjaku is coping because Yuta is not the ideal Jujutsu Sorcerer for him. For Kenjaku ideal Jujutsu sorcerer learns the craft from the age he is able to walk and talk. Yuta is an anomaly that he prefers to overlook.

"If Geto didn't spread his powers too much". If if. Who the fuck cares? Special Grade Sorcerer was retarded to spread his powers too much? That's his fault!

Yuta is now stronger than he ever was. Hakari is just a time-limit plot armor. Yuta would just work around him and kill him when he doesn't hit the Jackpot.


Mind you we are yet to see most of the abilities Yuta learned, he didn't use everything he has in his Colony.
Kenjaku says his ability to unconditionally copy CTs and boundless CE came from OG Rika. We see Yuta needs Rika to eat up body parts to gain CTs and he has finite CE reserves.

Yuta himself said that Hakari is stronger than him when he gets worked up.

Yuta used his ring and maximized the 5 min limit on it, he used Domain Expansion, he even kicked Uro to a situation where she could've died because of Kurouroshi's Life sword. Honestly sounds like he used most of his trump cards to me especially DE that couldn't overwhelm the other two.
 
#15
Kenjaku says his ability to unconditionally copy CTs and boundless CE came from OG Rika. We see Yuta needs Rika to eat up body parts to gain CTs and he has finite CE reserves.

Yuta himself said that Hakari is stronger than him when he gets worked up.

Yuta used his ring and maximized the 5 min limit on it, he used Domain Expansion, he even kicked Uro to a situation where she could've died because of Kurouroshi's Life sword. Honestly sounds like he used most of his trump cards to me especially DE that couldn't overwhelm the other two.
Rika eating body parts is just a fan theory so far
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#16
Kenjaku says his ability to unconditionally copy CTs and boundless CE came from OG Rika. We see Yuta needs Rika to eat up body parts to gain CTs and he has finite CE reserves.
"Bottomless" CE never implied that it's actually infinite, it was just a phrase Gege liked to use to say that said character had massive amounts of CE.
Yuta also tells Yuji that he has more CE than even Gojo however he might exhaust over repeated usage unlike Gojo who can efficiently use his thanks to the Six Eyes.
He bottomed out in Sendai due to repeatedly exorcising curses for days at an end. That doesnt change anything about how he has more CE than even Gojo.

And like @NikaInParis said, Rika needing to eat bodyparts to copy is just a fan theory for now it was never presented as a fact... merely just speculation from Ishigori's side.
 
#17
Rika eating body parts is just a fan theory so far

"Bottomless" CE never implied that it's actually infinite, it was just a phrase Gege liked to use to say that said character had massive amounts of CE.
Yuta also tells Yuji that he has more CE than even Gojo however he might exhaust over repeated usage unlike Gojo who can efficiently use his thanks to the Six Eyes.
He bottomed out in Sendai due to repeatedly exorcising curses for days at an end. That doesnt change anything about how he has more CE than even Gojo.

And like @NikaInParis said, Rika needing to eat bodyparts to copy is just a fan theory for now it was never presented as a fact... merely just speculation from Ishigori's side.
How is it a fan theory when Ishigori straight up says it…? He and Uro both recognized Copy CT so they are familiar with it and know that there are conditions attached. I don’t see any reason to not believe Ishigori for now especially since Yuta was only able to Copy Uro CT and not Ishigori’s CT. Not saying it has to be body parts directly but has to be related to user like blood or even hair. If later on he shows Copy by just seeing then I’ll kick the bucket but I really don’t think Gege will make it like that.
 
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