Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1069 Spoilers Discussion

Who will fight Kizaru ?


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Guys in my opinion now luffy is almost always in NIKA mode so it doesn't make sense to say "he activated the Gear 5 against Lucci".

In recent chapters, it is clearly seen that in the panels luffy shows the silhouette of Nika while discussing with the other characters. (Cloud of steam, cartoonish expressions etc.)

AND PLEASE STOP comparing the strength of characters by saying for example "If that character challenged that other character who lost against that other character then he is more ....(stronger / faster / better uses that certain type of haki etc.) of the other character".


These are truly childish and stupid comments that make the fanbase a truly toxic environment.

In this chapter we finally talk about the story of the fruits and people focus on saying "That character is stronger than another character because (.......) <-- fill the space with the stupidest thing that you comes to mind
 
Man, stay real. Even base Luffy was able to fight with Hybrid Kaido, even base Luffy partly overwhelmed Kaido. When Kaido started to go seriously all out, only then we saw that Luffy ultimately stands no chance, until Joy Boy absolutely played with an all out Kaido. Kaido managed to fight his way back into an equal fight but eventually Gear 5 was just too powerful and destroyed Kaido within minutes.

There is no way in hell, a non Top Tier character is able to fight and clash with Joy Boy. Its not only about Feats here, in this chapter Lucci was portrayed so immensely powerful that Luffy saw the need to use Gear 5 (he never uses more than needed in fights) on Lucci - and we know after Wano that Luffy even without Gear 5 is a Low Top Tier. Not only that, the reaction from the crowd was another portrayal feat: Jinbei running, Sanji sweating, Vegapunk talking about the absurdness of power Devil Fruit users hold while we see Lucci and Luffy in an equal powerful clash.
Luffy in gear 5 was not equal to Kaido .
Even when luffy went gear 5 Kaido was countering his moves with ease and give him more hits .
Also what manga are you reading luffy uses his gears on fodder \ weaker characters all the time .
In fact that is the normal , luffy learn new gear and then spams vs anyone , luffy was going to go gear 5 vs hologram food lol.
 
Bro, I know my shit. I understand what you're saying. The portrayal isn't just hyped statements or a character's status in a story/random descriptions/group photos…He did not just make a pre-skip Lucci match Luffy and then call it portrayal. A big part of the reason why Lucci was able to do what he did is that his raw fighting skills were as good as Luffy's even before TS.
You’re ignoring that Law and Kid don’t only have those two things, they also have bounties equal to Luffy and the other is evenly clashing with Luffy’s biggest rival. Those are portrayals “points” towards Law and Kid. If Luffy were to fight either of them it doesn’t matter how fast you think Luffy is they will be able to keep up with him because Oda plays loose with his scaling.

also re read what you said. PRE TS Luffy has the same raw skills as Lucci. Luffy has gotten what? 5 power ups since then plus actual growth? What has Lucci gotten? 1 power up? And he was able to clash with Luffy? it’s as simple as Oda decided to make Lucci stronger. There’s no rational reason as to why Lucci should be this strong. If this was any other shonen we would be laughing at the obvious power creep, but this is One Piece and we understand that it’s classic Oda
 
Wtf does sun light have to do with kizarus lasers than blast on contact

Maybe you are forgetting kizaru turning that giant mangrove into dust in sabaody

Armaki would have same fate..dude damn near got evaporated by Momonosuke
True, weakest Admiral for a reason.


Didn't Yonkou fans tell us that everyone that fights Nika will be vulnerable to toon force ?
To be fair this might just be Oda toning down the toonforce in comparison to reveal vs Kaido in which I think it was greatly over done.

That's why alot of fans were worried that Luffy fights will going forward would lack tension. Regardless its a feat for our boy to casually ignore toonforce
 
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