Questions & Mysteries Is Kaku awakened to?

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  • Yes

    Votes: 58 56.3%
  • No

    Votes: 45 43.7%

  • Total voters
    103

Gol D. Roger

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#66
for starters
saying lucci set records when there were NONE and lucci surpassed previous records are two different things. you miscommunicated. your previous point was in fact right to be called head canon.
What? Who has records before Lucci? Seriously, you're just arguing for the sake of it. He started off by murdering 100s of people just for being captors, and then he went on to commit similar atrocities in CP-9, which is what gave him his reputation. There were no known over-the-top assassins before Lucci. So saying he broke previous records is what would've been a headcanon.

again your head canon
none of which are confirmed in the story
next
That's a classic way of saying I am too stubborn to admit I am wrong. Not everything needs to be spelled out for us. With a bit of common sense, it's not that hard to conclude Lucci's power level was within Jabra's proximity before they left for W7 due to their rivalry. Everyone grow in the last five years so Jabra wouldn't exactly be at 2000+ five years before EL, meaning they're both lower than Kaku back then.

its not common sense
its stupidity . there's nuance and exceptions in each case.
is post ts chopper stronger than prets zoro ?
and if he is
what does that say about chopper's potential in comparison to Zoro's btw. chopper is 17....
Stupidity is denying the obvious to look cool and denying it when presented with factual information. We're not talking about fodder characters being top-rated fighters. You know what exactly I was talking about. No one's sitting here and trying to prove Usopp is stronger than Enel because he was a pre-skip character. Stop being petty for the sake of it.

Is Chopper consistently outdoing Zoro at all ages while still having more room to grow? The most Chopper can achieve is zoan awakening. Kaku is consistently surpassing Lucci in strength and also has the same options as him to grow more.

pls look up what feelings are in the dictionary.
using your own logic to argue against your point have nothing to do with my personal or your personal feelings. you are inconsistent .
you believe zoro has more potential while being weaker than oden at a younger age
but are arguing for Kaku having more potential than lucci because he Is stronger than lucci was at the age of 25.
laughable tbh
you are asking for arguments and you can't even get past your own
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I know what feelings are, which is how I could tell you're getting emotional when you're more focused on being passive-aggressive rather than proving your point. You did not use my own logic to disprove me. You helped me prove my point further by giving me a good example to use. I must thank you for that. My argument was that Kaku demonstrated a better growth rate at a young age while still having room to grow.

I'll explain it again so you may understand why you destroyed your own argument. Why was Oden stronger than Zoro at a young age? Let's say because he has Haki and Enma—both of which came to Zoro much later. Getting haki and Enma first means Oden has fewer things in his tank to grow more. The more power-ups you get, the more potential you deplete. Zoro is not like Oden, he demonstrated a more consistent growth rate while still having a lot of potential in his tank. Kaku is similar too.

Oden was stronger than Zoro because he exhausted his potential quicker, but Kaku isn't stronger than Lucci because he exhausted his options. It's Lucci who's burning his potential—he already hit the peak of his DF ability. Kaku hasn't and he's still dangerously stronger than Lucci at the same age. You missed this point and acted like you proved something while doing the exact opposite.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#67
The whole time lol? Wasn't Zoro getting slash up and drill a lot to the point where he was close to death?
That's latter on when he slipped up, check before that. There was no challenge in that fight other than cutting through steel.
That is not skill that pressures Santoryu.
Because kaku's reaction is just simply better than Daz bones so he was able to counter it.
Nope. It is because his combat style is the most overwhelming Zoro ever faced.
Exactly kaku fights like an assassin whereas Daz bones who is a infamous bounty hunter who kills pirates for a living should tell you how each of them fight.
You do know that Daz is also an assassin? :catpole:
Only one combat style in 1070 chapters was able to pressure Santoryu - Yontoryu.
 

Gol D. Roger

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#71
sounds like the biggest reason as to why Zoro is shit and has one of the lowest potentials.

All those power ups just to reach commander level. Meanwhile other characters can reach commander level without even beginning to unlock haki upgrades, just pure power.
You have to try a bit harder if you wish to trigger me. Nice try though.
 
#72
That will take Lucci's hype. He is stronger just as him, but no awakening.

Maybe at Who's Who level at best.
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At the same age, Kaku's ten times more powerful than Lucci. That's what having more potential means.
Kaku has not even shown a feat to say he is stronger 10 times.

Besides, potential does not only mean how fast you can grow, but the limit of your growth. Crocodile is an example, he stopped training and didnt reach his peak while in Alabasta. He had to surpass his traume to get stronger and reach his peak.
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In a way it is about time because you need to understand your devil fruit and its capabilities.

Remember that Kaku got this, they lost in Enies Lobby and went on a run for almost 2 years. He wasn't training for 2 years.

But I guess it's Oda.
Mmmm we saw a small story of them, we dont know what they did in these 2 years. They did get stronger.
 
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