Powers & Abilities Does OP have the worst Power System ?

[Chrono]

To the inconsistent, nonsensical and unmerited Haki system. To the ruined, stupid and also inconsistent DF system.

Oda found a way to ruin both powersystems. Like did he seriously have to make Zoan DFs "alive" and all DFs looking for their users. Like this destiny and chosen ones shit is starting to get cringe.

"Murr this DF chose him because it fulfills his dream". So bad...

 

[Infitima]

Would you prefer Gurren Lagann's spiral energy where power gets so ridiculous you throw galaxies at one another?
If not you better hope that Oda was joking in his SBS when he talked about Sanji's eyebrows being spirals, and a source of power in the world..

 

[Chrono]

Would you prefer Gurren Lagann's spiral energy where power gets so ridiculous you throw galaxies at one another?
If not you better hope that Oda was joking in his SBS when he talked about Sanji's eyebrows being spirals, and a source of power in the world..

Idc about that. We still have no clue about Sanji's powers. But Oda fully ruined the establish DF system.

 

[Flower]

How is it ruined? There's just more to DFs than we knew.

 

[Infitima]

Idc about that. We still have no clue about Sanji's powers. But Oda fully ruined the establish DF system.

The slashed out was a joke. But you titled the thread asking if it has the worst power system. My answer is no, GL was way worse in terms of broken and how it worked.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Oda wrote a fine one with devil fruits and giving people different individual abilities.

Problem is these involved oda writing strategic fights which was something he quickly realized he couldn’t do which was why he introduced haki so that it can be an “equalizer” to the point that it rarely matters what the opponents devil fruit is as long as you have big numbers.

Then oda made jt worse by trying to expand an already inconsistent power system like haki making it so much worse.

However, oda wanted to implement other power systems to hopefully bring back that whole “matchup strategy” which made things even more confusing. So he tried to make devil fruits the major power system again with awakening and adding more variables like tech and racial boosts.

All in all oda tried to implement too many power systems without fully thinking any of them out.

 

[Chrono]

The DF likes his personality so it chose him. Or even worse because of the DF, his personality is changed.

Seems like DFs are just fully controlling their users.

 

[Roo]

worst might be an overstatement, but he definitely has a bad power system in haki. It's vague on purpose because Oda doesn't want to restict himself when it comes to creating power ups.

He's also horrible at establishing a power structure amongst characters. Best example is Law and Doffy. Law went from being completely outmatched to making a Yonko beg in a matter of what? a month? Doffy is considered to be the second strongest warlord, probably a 2B beri bounty pirate by one side of the community, but the other side of the community thinks of him as a YC4 lvl character at best.

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

worst might be an understatement, but he definitely has a bad power system in haki. It's vague on purpose because Oda doesn't want to restict himself when it comes to creating power ups.

He's also horrible at establishing a power structure amongst characters. Best example is Law and Doffy. Law went from being completely outmatched to making a Yonko beg in a matter of what? a month? Doffy is considered to be the second strongest warlord, probably a 2B beri bounty pirate by one side of the community, but the other side of the community thinks of him as a YC4 lvl character at best.

Power inflation is a common issue in shounen

 

[Roo]

Power inflation is a common issue in shounen

yes but usually that's explained via power ups or training. Going back to my example, if Oda decided to show Law training certain aspects (haki, df stamina) during the WCI arc and pre raid then Rooftop Law could be explained. For some reason Oda doesn't do the simplest things to explain power inflation.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Power inflation is a common issue in shounen

It’s not the inflation that’s the problem; it’s the fact that Oda is the most inconsistent with showing characters power.

 

[Unlimited Rulebook]

It’s not the inflation that’s the problem; it’s the fact that Oda is the most inconsistent with showing characters power.

Yep
For example, Luffy vs. Ulti then 10 minutes later (pre-Nika) Luffy vs. Kaido. Or BM getting knocked out by Queen. Then…

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

yes but usually that's explained via power ups or training. Going back to my example, if Oda decided to show Law training certain aspects (haki, df stamina) during the WCI arc and pre raid then Rooftop Law could be explained. For some reason Oda doesn't do the simplest things to explain power inflation.

Oda's explanation was Law unlocking awakening I do agree Oda is bad at it tho Enies Lobby is the worst offender with the power inflation

 

[Roo]

Oda's explanation was Law unlocking awakening I do agree Oda is bad at it tho Enies Lobby is the worst offender with the power inflation

Rooftop Law was already looking wayyy better than DR Law lol

 

[SakazOuki]

I’d say it’s the least explained for now
People are making broad assumptions about a lot of things when all it takes is a simple explanation from the author.

That said it’s mid, not the best but I’ve seen worse. If we get a full explanation on haki we can give an informed opinion.
That still won’t stop Oda from being consistent with the application of these powers.

Unpopular opinion but when it comes to general powerlevels, Oda did a decent job.

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

It’s not the inflation that’s the problem; it’s the fact that Oda is the most inconsistent with showing characters power.

The issue is how one Oda writes one piece he's always going to have the straw hats face greater and greater threats which leads to these power inconsistencies

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Rooftop Law was already looking wayyy better than DR Law lol

That he was

 

[Herrera95]

First of all DF is not a power system. Is just a magic ability.

For example Naruto, chackra is not a power system. Genin, Chunnin, Jouning, Kage etc is the power system.

Black Clover, magic is not a power system. They have their power system which I forgot what it is.

To the topic, I don't know if One Piece has the worst power system. I think it is author's fault only to be inconsistent but is still pretty consistent most of the time.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

I'd say Haki is the more worse power system than DF mostly because Haki got explored more than DF. While DF is still mysterious. But at this rate, Oda might ruin it if he keeps exploring more of the DF lore.

 

[Logiko]

A system where X>A>B>C>D is INHUMAN and unrealistic.

No, Oda didn't introduced Haki because he lacked something. Haki was here since the beginning. Chapter 1: Shanks traumatizing the seabeast with conqueror.

The system of One Piece is great in the sence that it is NOT a power system.

Devil fruits are not here to create superiorities between the characters, they are here to EVEN the plainfield. In fact Haki is here to do the same with non devil fruit users.

The system of One Piece is great because it's a deeply equal system. This is a system where even the most ungifted individuals can match with people with tromendus power.

The moral of One Piece is that if you take your power for granted or if you don't care enough to pay attention, you will be put down like any human in real life. That is why Luffy can still be put down by random devil fruit users or random people like Atlas.

The only exceptions to this system are the two most powerful individuals that are shown as being strong despite themself: Big Mom and Kaido. They are written to have inhuman capacities but highly human minds. So their strenght overflow their own body and their own mind despite their will. While BigMom can't help but be a impenetrable being but an higly instable one, Kaido can't help but being the strongest beast of all. That's why it was important for both of them to be put down at the same time. All of that is why you can see Queen impact Big Mom on the floor: the body of Big Mom is inhuman so she is unhurt, but her mind is instable so she regained her memories.

Any other character would be put down by Perona's amazing power, because almost all the characters of One Piece are human.

So here is my conclusion: One Piece is the opposite of that power system you guys are seeking. That system just can't be done in the world of One Piece, it's contrary to it's values.

Devil fruit powers is an amazing system, with 3 well balanced categories and the haki system is the perfect respounce to that system. All of that ends up in a perfect equilibrium and keep the characters human.

So their is nothing wrong with that system. It's in fact much better than what we can see in most manga.

 

[Sigran101]

A system where X>A>B>C>D is INHUMAN and unrealistic.

No, Oda didn't introduced Haki because he lacked something. Haki was here since the beginning. Chapter 1: Shanks traumatizing the seabeast with conqueror.

The system of One Piece is great in the sence that it is NOT a power system.

Devil fruits are not here to create superiorities between the characters, they are here to EVEN the plainfield. In fact Haki is here to do the same with non devil fruit users.

The system of One Piece is great because it's a deeply equal system. This is a system where even the most ungifted individuals can match with people with tromendus power.

The moral of One Piece is that if you take your power for granted or if you don't care enough to pay attention, you will be put down like any human in real life. That is why Luffy can still be put down by random devil fruit users or random people like Atlas.

The only exceptions to this system are the two most powerful individuals that are shown as being strong despite themself: Big Mom and Kaido. They are written to have inhuman capacities but highly human minds. So their strenght overflow their own body and their own mind despite their will. While BigMom can't help but be a impenetrable being but an higly instable one, Kaido can't help but being the strongest beast of all. That's why it was important for both of them to be put down at the same time. All of that is why you can see Queen impact Big Mom on the floor: the body of Big Mom is inhuman so she is unhurt, but her mind is instable so she regained her memories.

Any other character would be put down by Perona's amazing power, because almost all the characters of One Piece are human.

So here is my conclusion: One Piece is the opposite of that power system you guys are seeking. That system just can't be done in the world of One Piece, it's contrary to it's values.

Devil fruit powers is an amazing system, with 3 well balanced categories and the haki system is the perfect respounce to that system. All of that ends up in a perfect equilibrium and keep the characters human.

So their is nothing wrong with that system. It's in fact much better than what we can see in most manga.

This, 100%. People looking to One Piece for power scaling are simply reading the wrong manga. One Piece isn't about that.