Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1070 Spoilers Discussion

[SakazOuki]

Haki bros don't realize that DF users have haki too lmao
The only actual haki-man is Garp, the rest are swordsmen in reality

And still, the WSM was a devil fruit user

 

[Infitima]

I’m thinking Vegapunk may have tried to create an actual Garuda. So the tori tori no mi model Garuda -

The fire powered bird known for holding the sun god.

That's actually not a bad idea, seeing as he's one of the wings to the sun god now.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

no, kizaru can't even touch Rayleigh
they had an even fight where they couldn't hit each other during that time
Rayleigh cut Kizaru and made him bleed but I'll be good and ignore that since it was a surprise attack
Old Rayleigh is at minimum Kizaru level
Prime Rayleigh will win comfortably obviously
Prime Roger would be stronger so he would be landing attacks from the beginning obviously

Awakened Kizaru neg diffs Rayleigh

 

[comrade]

@Seraphoenix @L55 Shanks' Haoshoku suppressed Aramaki's Logia from 10 miles away. Haki masters don't even need to be present to overwhelm the strongest class of DFs.

If Haki was enough people wouldn't have started wishing for Godlike abilities like the Logias. Think about that Haki bros.

Those were the weak. Meanwhile none of the haki masters on Shanks' or Roger's board were interested in consuming a DF. Why is that so..? Teach and his crew are hunting DFs because it's their only way to be relevant. Since they lack the natural potential.

 

[Indigo]

Yep.

Your idea that mythical zoans are the strongest fruit because the Mc has a mythical Zoan is terrible since you could have made the same argument when Luffy had a paramecia which would obviously have been wrong.

I'm not saying Nika is the strongest because it's Luffy's

i'm saying this because the World Governament keeps losing their shit over this Devil Fruit

There's an entire legend about it with Joyboy, even Im has his sights on Luffy

It's the only Devil Fruit removed from the Devil Fruit book

It's awakening is absurd, it changes both the world around him and the bodies of the enemy they are fighting, and now he can also summon shit out of his ass like a video game character

oh yeah, and he can also come back to life lmao

 

[CbShadow]

If Haki was enough people wouldn't have started wishing for Godlike abilities like the Logias. Think about that Haki bros.

Haki is enough but it requires work. DF is easier because you don't have to do anything but eat it and you instantly become powerful.

Wishing for DF power is just people being lazy. That is nothing new.

 

[Indigo]

If Haki was enough people wouldn't have started wishing for Godlike abilities like the Logias. Think about that Haki bros.

If Haki wasn't enough, why didn't Whitebeard or the Admirals kill Roger?

 

[T.D.A]

If Haki was enough people wouldn't have started wishing for Godlike abilities like the Logias. Think about that Haki bros.

You can't get Conqueror's Haki by wishing for it can you?

Even those with the Logia abilities get shook when someone has top tier haki

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

I'm not saying Nika is the strongest because it's Luffy's

i'm saying this because the World Governament keeps losing their shit over this Devil Fruit

There's an entire legend about it with Joyboy, even Im has his sights on Luffy

It's the only Devil Fruit removed from the Devil Fruit book

It's awakening is absurd, it changes both the world around him and the bodies of the enemy they are fighting, and now he can also summon shit out of his ass like a video game character

oh yeah, and he can also come back to life lmao

Sure but none of this is an argument that mythical zoans > logias.

You could argue the same about WB’s fruit to say paramecias > logias, but you would literally be wrong.

 

[Kozuki TVU]

Awakened Kizaru neg diffs Rayleigh

As a fanfic it's cool but this is not what happened

 

[MarineHQ]

Teach and his crew are hunting DFs because it's their only way to be relevant. Since they lack the natural potential.

What a bold statement. Funny getting back to this when Teach, destiny wise, is as crucial and meant to be this huge thing like Luffy is. It's clear. BB experienced real Haki gods, read the DF encyclopedia and ended up settling for the power he deems superior for his use case.

 

[Indigo]

Sure but none of this is an argument that mythical zoans > logias.

You could argue the same about WB’s fruit to say paramecias > logias, but you would literally be wrong.

argue the same? no, i can't

not a single Devil Fruit in this story is as hyped as Luffy's right now

 

[Lor D. Coast]

If Haki was enough people wouldn't have started wishing for Godlike abilities like the Logias. Think about that Haki bros.

Those with haki are the ones that wished to be stronger than anyone.

 

[garciajulieen]

You know what's interesting is that what if Kizaru come and helping the Sh and Vegapunk to leave the island instead of helping the CPs to fight the SH and kill Vegapunk.
Sentomaru could be the key and we still got some sword member nearby. How if Kizaru is actually a member of sword, a least expected one.

 

[SakazOuki]

Teach and his crew are hunting DFs because it's their only way to be relevant. Since they lack the natural potential.

Teach bitchslapped Shanks without devil fruits tho lol
Yonko Shanks still traumatized to this day and reiterates how he wasn't offguard

 

[Kozuki TVU]

imagine following a pirate Manga of the power of friendship genre and believing marines are the strongest
I hope you guys are trolling
Prime Rayleigh will stomp any admiral because he is le old age legendary pirate and that's all there is to it

 

[[No Name]]

What colour Is your Tesla?
- Monsterzoro

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

argue the same? no, i can't

not a single Devil Fruit in this story is as hyped as Luffy's right now

We have statements about Whitebeard destroying the world in Marineford. You could easily have argued the same then.

Don’t be dense.

 

[Indigo]

imagine following a pirate Manga of the power of friendship genre and believing marines are the strongest
I hope you guys are trolling
Prime Rayleigh will stomp any admiral because he is le old age legendary pirate and that's all there is to it

all the Admirals are gonna get their asses kicked by Luffy and friends

it's gonna fun watching these Admiral fanboys lose their shit

 

[Shiroyru]

I always knew there was more to logias. They’re called the strongest abilities even given mythical zoans.

Awakening probably makes them like continent level or some snot.

Were Logias ever stated to be better than Mythical Zoans?