Sandaime Raikage vs Zoro (DR)

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Isn't Raikages best attribute his speed? He sure as hell ain't beating Zoro in power.

But issue is can Raikage even surpass Zoro in speed?
Based on calculations Zoro was around Mach 30 even in Whiskey Peak due to his FTE feat against the crowd of 100 people.

He then through out the series surpassed those feats greatly to the point where TB was around massively hypersonic.

Current Zoro should be good deal stronger than that.


Not to mention Zoro can dodge a light speed attack with his CoO against Pacifista so he shouldn't have any issues dodging Raikages singular lariat.

Zoro low diffs imo
 
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@ShishioIsBack @Cinera

The Third Raikage's best attribute is his strength which even surpasses his own durability!

You two would be right if it was Ay (Fourth Raikage) whose best attribute is his speed but on this case, we are talking about a character who pushed a draw against a literal Bijuu, it's Hachibi, the second strongest Bijuu, known for casual mountain busters.

Fourth Raikage's durability feats:
  • Easily tanked a Rasenshuriken which should fuck you up on the cellular level with billions of molecular chakra blades, keep in mind that the Third Raikage was at the disadvantage because of the elemental advantage (Futon > Raiton)
  • Tanked lots of attacks from other shinobis at the war
  • Fought against 3.000 shinobis for 3 days
  • Was able to travel with Mabui's Teleportation Jutsu which teleports someone with the Speed of Light which normally rips someone's body apart
  • Flesh like steel and blood like iron (but that's irrelevant for Zoro since he already cut through steel Pre-TS)
And now about his strength:
  1. The Hachibi thought that its Bijuu Dama was able to damage the Third Raikage when it fought against the Sandaime but the Hachibi was unsure about it because lf the lacks of memories (the Raikage was definitely injured, though)
  2. The Sandaime Raikage's strength, as I said above, surpasses his own durability with his Nukite; his Four Finger Nukite easily penetrated through stone and even rubber, his Three Finger Nukite adds far more force but his One Finger Nukite actually even managed to penetrate his own durability!
  3. Since the Hachibi couldn't remember correctly how the Third Raikage was injured during their battle but it was indirectly mentioned that the Third Raikage probably injured himself during the battle against the Hachibi; a beast known with casual mountain busting attacks like a Bijuu Dama.
But you are definitely right about Zoro being faster than the Third Raikage. Zoro is MHS+ whilst the Raikage is only MHS but even on this case, Zoro should be definitely cautious that the Sandaime won't hit him with his finger technique, that shit is powerful as fuck.

I see Zoro high diffing the Sandaime because Zoro himself can dish out casual mountain slices with nameless attacks. And his higher end attacks are sure stronger than nameless one.
Although Zoro won't injure the Third Raikage that easily - like I said, even the Hachibi had a hard time injuring him - his higher end attacks such as SS or ISDS should definitely make huge damage against him.
 
#6
Zoro kills all the 5 Kage with Asura

Those folks are overrated DC wise
The 5 Kage are overrated indeed but let's not underestimate them, they were powerful enough to push Madara on a serious diff, resulting to the latter using his PS against them.

Zoro destroys them as well, though.
It's just the case that the Third Raikage himself is a difficult opponent to deal with.
 
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Raikage can deal with fucking Hachibi.Maybe Post Wano Zorro can defeat him,but this version get washed away
Zoro sure will have a hard time against him.

Fourth Raikage sure would get his ass beaten by Zoro but the Sandaime is another story. KCM1 Naruto and Co needed to gang on him in which they only defeated him cause of his self inflicted wound.

That's the guy who pushed the Hachibi on a draw.

Strength-wise I definitely see the Sandaime stronger but speed-wise, Zoro simply has an advantage over him, especially with CoO.
 
#10
Ehh, I don't really remember non top tiers having the kind of physical feats Zoro displayed against Pica.
Well, the Hachibi itself should be quite comparable to Zoro if not even stronger because of his Bijuu Damas and yet, the Sandaime was equal to him.

Madara's Perfect Susanoo slash should be stronger, so if one could make the argument that the 3rd Raikage could tank that, then yeah I'd agree that he beats Zoro.
Madara's Perfect Susanoo slash also extremely outclasses Zoro's one - that was literally a slash comparable to Mihawk's one.

Even if the Sandaime can't tank Madara's slash it doesn't mean Zoro can easily slice through him either.
 

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I'm not sure who's faster but the Raikage has durability over Zoro. Zoro likely has stamina, since the Raikage's is tied directly to his chakra levels. High as they are, they only last for 3 days of endless fighting. AP wise Raikage has a more concentrated attack but Zoro has wide scale DC.

Comes down to whenever Raikage uses his single finger for his attacks, fully concentrated power, and if it's stronger than Zoro's haki. No way I know.

Edit: Give Zoro Samehada and he no diffs ofc.
 
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I'm not a fan of those speed calculations. Speed is very inconsistent in One Piece and fanfic in general. Lol. Zoro surely isn't massively hypersonic pre TS. Though theoretically he should be above lightspeed, since he dodged Kuma's laser.

So I think speed should not matter in multiverse debates unless someone is clearly shown to have speed that is vastly above the standard of the verse he comes from.
 

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Bruh, Raikage win high diff IMO. His strength, speed and durability is something else lol. The only way Zoro can win is that he have to use CoO to somehow dodge and counter Raikage's attacks. Beside Raikage is a perfect counter to Zoro since he uses lightning ability and Zoro uses swords so yeah:kayneshrug:
 
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I'm not a fan of those speed calculations. Speed is very inconsistent in One Piece and fanfic in general. Lol. Zoro surely isn't massively hypersonic pre TS. Though theoretically he should be above lightspeed, since he dodged Kuma's laser.
Of course you can doubt those speed calculations. On this site, Raikage is MHS but on another one, he is sub relativistic - hence it is completely different.

As long as there are obvious hints of characters moving extremely fast, speed calculations should be quite helpful.

Either way, Zoro doesn't have it easy against the Third Raikage, not at all. That's the dude pushing the Hachibi on a draw.
 
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The problem is, War Arc Kurama destroyed 5 Bijuus simultaneously and stalled the Juubi for quite a bit. This Kurama is already stronger than the ordinary Kurama if you ask me and hence, it is highly debatable whether Kaido is stronger than Kurama or not. At the end, we simply have to see how powerful all out Kaido really is. But Sot6p Kurama is stronger than Kaido anyway.
 
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