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It's more logical than assuming his Lunarian wings have anything to do with his zoan wings, when his zoan wings materialize from his arms.

Exactly. Pierre had wings in his other forms. So the precedent is set that King should have his Lunarian wings in hybrid, that's how the fruits work. The only in-universe reason he wouldn't is because King himself chooses not to.
There is zero proof based on your example since he can only summon his zoans beak by the replacement of his base forms mouth piece. So your example adds to my point. He cannot create a beak without having it replace a body part associated with his base forma biology.

Hence why him not producing his lunarian wings is even more farfetched based on what you showed
 

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There is zero proof based on your example since he can only summon his zoans beak by the replacement of his base forms mouth piece. So your example adds to my point. He cannot create a beak without having it replace a body part associated with his base forma biology.

Hence why him not producing his lunarian wings is even more farfetched based on what you showed
And saying his Lunarian wings fused with his arms to make pteranodon wings is even worse off because pteranodon wings would form solely from his arms. There's no precedent of two limbs fused together in that effect.
 
And saying his Lunarian wings fused with his arms to make pteranodon wings is even worse off because pteranodon wings would form solely from his arms. There's no precedent of two limbs fused together in that effect.
Again if your point was indeed true. He would have them even in hybrid.

Your example would have shown him being able to do something of that affect. But you couldn't show the proof.

King has a mouth gets rid of his mouth to form a beak. Which literally means "he must replaced his mouth to have his beak".

Using that logic he should have his lunarian wings in hybrid since you stated that his "arms are replaced forming wings".

So in your analogy and example exactly where did you prove he can "disable his base forms natural astectics without the need of replacing it with another zoan body part"?
 
Fine? He was bleeding all around. Was it shown he did shit after he was two shot? No. WB didn't gang up, didn't need betrayal, was riddled with holes and downed with heart attack yet Two shot Lakainu. Your logic is the definition of illiteracy.
What's worse, a nosebleed or a gaping hole in your chest and face?

And last I checked, Akainu being two-shotted would require him to have actually gotten KO'd.
 

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Again if your point was indeed true. He would have them even in hybrid.

Your example would have shown him being able to do something of that affect. But you couldn't show the proof.

King has a mouth gets rid of his mouth to form a beak. Which literally means "he must replaced his mouth to have his beak".

Using that logic he should have his lunarian wings in hybrid since you stated that his "arms are replaced forming wings".

So in your analogy and example exactly where did you prove he can "disable his base forms natural astectics without the need of replacing it with another zoan body part"?
And what you propose is not how hybrid forms work with exception to snake fruits. It's literally copium used to make King seem weaker than he was before. His Lunarian wings =/= Pteranodon wings. They never did and never will.

The most logical idea is that King is doing something to keep them from appearing, because they should appear.
If you go with an out of verse idea, Oda just wanted a more distinct silhoutte between King and his hybrid form since there's a marginal difference to begin with.

But they do not fuse. That's not how hybrids work. That's not how pteranodon wings work.
 
And what you propose is not how hybrid forms work with exception to snake fruits. It's literally copium used to make King seem weaker than he was before. His Lunarian wings =/= Pteranodon wings. They never did and never will.

The most logical idea is that King is doing something to keep them from appearing, because they should appear.
If you go with an out of verse idea, Oda just wanted a more distinct silhoutte between King and his hybrid form since there's a marginal difference to begin with.

But they do not fuse. That's not how hybrids work. That's not how pteranodon wings work.
Again mute point. Stop running from the question..

Name the example of a zoan that can create a body part without the replacing of an existing one.

Name me the example of king removing or dematerlizing a body part associated with his base form without replacing it with an existing zoan body part.

This is exactly how hybrid forms work. A snake a hybrid may lost their legs in replace of a long long tail. We see this with boas sisters. If they lose their legs in base they don't have a tail in zoan or hybrid since the legs are the ones used or replaced to make up the tail. What you are implying is that the same does not apply to king even though 1. You have zero proof and 2. Your main example adds to my point
 
It's more logical than assuming his Lunarian wings have anything to do with his zoan wings, when his zoan wings materialize from his arms.
The thing is zoans typically convert their human body parts. They typically don't conjure things out of thin air. Thats why a zoan losing an arm/leg in zoan form can't grow it back in its human form.

If your hypothesis is true then
(1) King grows his zoan wings out of thin air
(2) his lunarian wings also vanish without any logic

The other hypothesis is simpler, King converted his wings in zoan form. Simpler hypothesis > complex hypothesis.
 

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This is exactly how hybrid forms work. A snake a hybrid may lost their legs in replace of a long long tail. We see this with boas sisters. If they lose their legs in base they don't have a tail in zoan or hybrid since the legs are the ones used or replaced to make up the tail. What you are implying is that the same does not apply to king even though 1. You have zero proof and 2. Your main example adds to my point
A zoan hybrid does not fuse limbs together except in the example of snake fruits because they use tails.

A pteranodon's wings are derived from arms. They would replace the arms. They have nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with King's wings. It doesn't make a lick of sense and it's one of the dumber things I've heard.
 
The thing is zoans typically convert their human body parts. They typically don't conjure things out of thin air. Thats why a zoan losing an arm/leg in zoan form can't grow it back in its human form.

If your hypothesis is true then
(1) King grows his zoan wings out of thin air (2) his lunarian wings also vanish without any logic

The other hypothesis is simpler, King converted his wings in zoan form. Simpler hypothesis > complex hypothesis.
Preach. Exactly. You are 100 percent correct
 
A zoan hybrid does not fuse limbs together except in the example of snake fruits because they use tails.

A pteranodon's wings are derived from arms. They would replace the arms. They have nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with King's wings. It doesn't make a lick of sense and it's one of the dumber things I've heard.
The thing is zoans typically convert their human body parts. They typically don't conjure things out of thin air. Thats why a zoan losing an arm/leg in zoan form can't grow it back in its human form.

If your hypothesis is true then
(1) King grows his zoan wings out of thin air
(2) his lunarian wings also vanish without any logic

The other hypothesis is simpler, King converted his wings in zoan form. Simpler hypothesis > complex hypothesis.
To add using your dumb logic exactly what is kings lunaruan wings replaced with when he goes full zoan? If it's not replaced with anything where does it go?
 

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(1) King grows his zoan wings out of thin air
A hybrid replaces the human form, like Kaku getting hooves instead of fingers.

A pteranodon's wings would replace King's arms because that's the equivalent limb.


Lunarian Wings do not fit in the process of manifesting his zoan abilities. He already has the body parts that are converted into wings and there's no logical sense or reason to say that his wings are added to his arms. They're unrelated.
(2) his lunarian wings also vanish without any logic
If we're being realistic, this is the real answer but if you want an answer that's complaint with the rules of the OP verse, them fusing with his arms to make Pteranodon wings makes less sense. It's literally never seen before.
 
A hybrid replaces the human form, like Kaku getting hooves instead of fingers.

A pteranodon's wings would replace King's arms because that's the equivalent limb.


Lunarian Wings do not fit in the process of manifesting his zoan abilities. He already has the body parts that are converted into wings and there's no logical sense or reason to say that his wings are added to his arms. They're unrelated.

If we're being realistic, this is the real answer but if you want an answer that's complaint with the rules of the OP verse, them fusing with his arms to make Pteranodon wings makes less sense. It's literally never seen before.
Then what exactly is his lunarian wings in base replaced with when he goes full zoan? I will wait
 
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