Questions & Mysteries Is Kaku awakened to?
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Lucci was stagnant for 5 years while undercover on Water 7. The same could be said for Kaku, but there is no telling how powerful Lucci would have been two years ago, if he didn't spend 5 years working as a shipwright. But Lucci was deemed the strongest assassin in CP-9's history, and already considered a massive problem, even at the age of 13. Kaku did not receive that kind of portrayal.
They didn't say the awakening gave luffy ability to become stronger by changing his body they said it made his body stronger, also crocodile said their " their greatest strengths are their toughness and recovery speed" while answering bon clay asking why the beast guard is up ,he didn't say "awakening gives them toughness and high recovery speed" so the line from crocodile didn't limit zoan awakening just to recovery and toughness, don't say no one said awakening gives stat boost because crocodile is the only character that has brought up the basic benefits of zoan awakening.
I don't mean to necro but this is bull lol
Growing faster than someone doesn't necessarily mean you have more overall potential than them
Every younger member of the strawhats is growing faster than any great pirate from the previous generation
Does that mean they have more potential? No, some people hit their ceilings faster than others
Law at 26 is almost certainly stronger than Whitebeard (who was stated to hit his prime in his 30's) or Roger when they were 26
Does that mean he has more potential than them? I wouldn't say so
Is his growth rate superior to theirs? Probably
Does he have more potential? That's debatable.
Everyone has a different ceiling
Growing faster than someone doesn't necessarily mean you have more overall potential than them
Every younger member of the strawhats is growing faster than any great pirate from the previous generation
Does that mean they have more potential? No, some people hit their ceilings faster than others
Law at 26 is almost certainly stronger than Whitebeard (who was stated to hit his prime in his 30's) or Roger when they were 26
Does that mean he has more potential than them? I wouldn't say so
Is his growth rate superior to theirs? Probably
Does he have more potential? That's debatable.
Everyone has a different ceiling
There are exceptions to every rule, and exceptions don't make the rule. Whatever I said applies to Lucci and Kaku, not everyone else in the world. Law at 26 hit the peak of his devil's fruit potential while WB probably didn't do it We all know some people achieve some things later than others. What Kaku's doing is learning the same things that Lucci's been learning and is consistently outdoing him at the same things while still having just as much room to grow further.
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Lucci's potential is directly stated by the manga, a comparison like you are trying to do isn't enough to counter that due to their training not being the same.
Age means nothing due to a crazy range for characters peaking or even starting to realize their potential since it relies on outside factors. Oden never leaving Wano would not have been anywhere near as strong as he was when he died for example or leaving years earlier would have made him peak earlier etc
While it's true that Lucci and Kaku are easier to compare because they went through the same training and started at the same age(a fair assumption if not stated anywhere) you are not comparing them at same points/after the same training. You are comparing a Kaku post Water 7 growth to a pre Water 7 growth Lucci(W7 growth is a whole discussion on it's own) and a post CP0 training Kaku to a pre CP0 training Lucci and are just using their age.
While I agree that Kaku keeping pace atleast somwhat unlike the other CP9 is atleast something as is the fact that he got to these opportunities at a way younger age than Lucci even though they had a same start point but I don't think these two things on their own are enough to counter such clear manga portrayal of Lucci's potential.
However that all only applies if the question was simply - who has greater potential between them based on the manga so far?
Within the context of what you said to start this discussion however I think it's fair to say Kaku has greater potential(or atleast arguable) because in this scenario Kaku achieved awakening in 2 years of getting his DF which people arguing with you are ignoring
Age means nothing due to a crazy range for characters peaking or even starting to realize their potential since it relies on outside factors. Oden never leaving Wano would not have been anywhere near as strong as he was when he died for example or leaving years earlier would have made him peak earlier etc
While it's true that Lucci and Kaku are easier to compare because they went through the same training and started at the same age(a fair assumption if not stated anywhere) you are not comparing them at same points/after the same training. You are comparing a Kaku post Water 7 growth to a pre Water 7 growth Lucci(W7 growth is a whole discussion on it's own) and a post CP0 training Kaku to a pre CP0 training Lucci and are just using their age.
While I agree that Kaku keeping pace atleast somwhat unlike the other CP9 is atleast something as is the fact that he got to these opportunities at a way younger age than Lucci even though they had a same start point but I don't think these two things on their own are enough to counter such clear manga portrayal of Lucci's potential.
However that all only applies if the question was simply - who has greater potential between them based on the manga so far?
Within the context of what you said to start this discussion however I think it's fair to say Kaku has greater potential(or atleast arguable) because in this scenario Kaku achieved awakening in 2 years of getting his DF which people arguing with you are ignoring
So both kaku and lucci used their best moves from pre ts then lucci went awakening
Will also kaku show awakening? Or he will get a different route Haki
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Will also kaku show awakening? Or he will get a different route Haki
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