Character Discussion KONG... being slept on.

KONG MANIA STRONG?!

  • Top 1

    Votes: 5 13.2%
  • Top 3

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Top 5

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Top 10

    Votes: 6 15.8%
  • Bum ass mf

    Votes: 22 57.9%

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    38
#1
In the world of One Piece, organizations (not countries) are built on power. Those who lead them are the strongest individuals. Whether it be the Marines with their admirals and fleet admiral. Whether it be the Yonko and other pirates. Whether it be the Revolutionary Army. The commanders and leader of the organizations are stronger than the other underlings that is a law, only broken by few like Spandam & Buggy. Otherwise that is how all organizations operate. Why? Because power is required to keep powerful individuals under control. You cannot lead Zoro, while being weaker than him. You cannot lead the admirals, while being inferior to them. You must be atleast on par if not superior.

And out of all the organizations of the world, there is 1 more powerful than any other by far. The World Government. Consisting of the Marines, CP1-9, and various other forces. This global organization has remained in power for the last 800 years. And presently the one who leads all of the military power of the World Government, is none other than the former-Fleet Admiral of the marines who reigned from the era of Xebec to Roger... the one and only.. The Commander in Chief of the World Government.. KONG.




So how strong is KONG? At the very least he's going to be stronger than the weakest admiral when he was the Fleet Admiral, which would be Prime Sengoku (since Garp refused to become one, and we don't know of any other, since Z doesn't exist in the series yet). Just like how people wank Akainu as the strongest admiral for being the Fleet Admiral during the current generation. This man was the Fleet Admiral during the Golden Generation that had Roger/Shiki/Newgate/Captain John/BM/etc roaming the seas. So please keep that logic consistent and apply it to our boy Kong here as well.

"Oh but he's just a pencil pusher" "Oh but he doesn't fight, just sit behind a desk" - Right because BM was out there clashing with top tiers on the seas for last 20 years before Wano. Whitebeard was having regular top tier fights in the past 20 years and not with just generic chumps like fodder Ace and fodder crocodile. Right cause Sakazuki for the past 2 years has been fighting top tiers in secret at the marine HQ and not sitting behind a desk. Cause Kuzan was out there having top tier fights and not just dealing with fodder and riding around his bike.. Y'all get my point.
Majority of these mfs that people consider to be in their prime and active aren't fighting on a consistent basis. Some of them haven't fought a relevant fight in years, but nobody holds that against them. Not to mention, he's a soldier.. these mfs train consistently, not just sit on a desk and eat burritos.

Oda didn't introduce the most roided up human marine in the manga, who makes Sengoku's bodybuilder self look scrawny.. just for him to be some pencil pusher.



The man is of an era even before Sengoku, hence Sengoku addresses him as "sir" out of respect. Yet despite that he's able to intimidate Sengoku to a an extent. (Sengoku's face with "..." and Oda zooming in on Kong's face eyes with the stare, in a sequence where Kong isn't asking something from Sengoku, but demanding.


And the key thing here is, it's not a position that you get simply after the Fleet Admiral, so somebody else can be the Fleet Admiral while you get promoted to higher position. No sir. Hence this mf is still in charge of the World Government military, while Sengoku the FA after him from the generation after his.. is retired.
And what does the "commander-in-chief" do? The most important thing, keep the World Government at balance with rest of the world powers, across the entire globe, not just the grandline.


The World Government military ends with him. Leaders of all militaries in the world of OP are stronger or strong as their strongest subordinate. There is no reason why this law would be broken for Kong.


My boy @SakazOuki thinks he's top 1. While I don't wanna say top 1 outright, he's going to be atleast top 5 (excluding Gorosei and imu).


So let me know what y'all think man. I feel like this mf being slept on hard simply because his time to get focus hasn't come, as the series hasn't reached the point where World Government is the direct enemy, but only the Marines/CP.​
 
C

Cruxroux

#3
I'm not sure about his age but he looks older than sengoku and garp. Means he's already past his prime and currently working like garp or sengoku are training young marines , he might be handling administration work.
Even if he's being slept on he won't be able to pull of something amazing given oda been constantly showing us Previous generation is already their past. At best he will do stuff above Yc1+.

Also kong might be like the black horse we recently saw. Just there not important for plot.
 
#6
whether bum or not, Lolda aint gonna give you a silver of screentime for you to find out
He'll have plenty in the Final War.

Little marine and pirate games going on for now. When we get to the main threat, is where it matters.
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Not including Imu and Gorosei, Kong has the highest chance of being the strongest Marine of all time. Top 3 at least. Garp and EOS Akainu is on the list.
I think that's gonna be Smoker, but ima save my Smoker agenda until he shows something.
:milaugh:
 
#9
In the world of One Piece, organizations (not countries) are built on power. Those who lead them are the strongest individuals. Whether it be the Marines with their admirals and fleet admiral. Whether it be the Yonko and other pirates. Whether it be the Revolutionary Army. The commanders and leader of the organizations are stronger than the other underlings that is a law, only broken by few like Spandam & Buggy. Otherwise that is how all organizations operate. Why? Because power is required to keep powerful individuals under control. You cannot lead Zoro, while being weaker than him. You cannot lead the admirals, while being inferior to them. You must be atleast on par if not superior.

And out of all the organizations of the world, there is 1 more powerful than any other by far. The World Government. Consisting of the Marines, CP1-9, and various other forces. This global organization has remained in power for the last 800 years. And presently the one who leads all of the military power of the World Government, is none other than the former-Fleet Admiral of the marines who reigned from the era of Xebec to Roger... the one and only.. The Commander in Chief of the World Government.. KONG.




So how strong is KONG? At the very least he's going to be stronger than the weakest admiral when he was the Fleet Admiral, which would be Prime Sengoku (since Garp refused to become one, and we don't know of any other, since Z doesn't exist in the series yet). Just like how people wank Akainu as the strongest admiral for being the Fleet Admiral during the current generation. This man was the Fleet Admiral during the Golden Generation that had Roger/Shiki/Newgate/Captain John/BM/etc roaming the seas. So please keep that logic consistent and apply it to our boy Kong here as well.

"Oh but he's just a pencil pusher" "Oh but he doesn't fight, just sit behind a desk" - Right because BM was out there clashing with top tiers on the seas for last 20 years before Wano. Whitebeard was having regular top tier fights in the past 20 years and not with just generic chumps like fodder Ace and fodder crocodile. Right cause Sakazuki for the past 2 years has been fighting top tiers in secret at the marine HQ and not sitting behind a desk. Cause Kuzan was out there having top tier fights and not just dealing with fodder and riding around his bike.. Y'all get my point.
Majority of these mfs that people consider to be in their prime and active aren't fighting on a consistent basis. Some of them haven't fought a relevant fight in years, but nobody holds that against them. Not to mention, he's a soldier.. these mfs train consistently, not just sit on a desk and eat burritos.

Oda didn't introduce the most roided up human marine in the manga, who makes Sengoku's bodybuilder self look scrawny.. just for him to be some pencil pusher.



The man is of an era even before Sengoku, hence Sengoku addresses him as "sir" out of respect. Yet despite that he's able to intimidate Sengoku to a an extent. (Sengoku's face with "..." and Oda zooming in on Kong's face eyes with the stare, in a sequence where Kong isn't asking something from Sengoku, but demanding.


And the key thing here is, it's not a position that you get simply after the Fleet Admiral, so somebody else can be the Fleet Admiral while you get promoted to higher position. No sir. Hence this mf is still in charge of the World Government military, while Sengoku the FA after him from the generation after his.. is retired.
And what does the "commander-in-chief" do? The most important thing, keep the World Government at balance with rest of the world powers, across the entire globe, not just the grandline.


The World Government military ends with him. Leaders of all militaries in the world of OP are stronger or strong as their strongest subordinate. There is no reason why this law would be broken for Kong.


My boy @SakazOuki thinks he's top 1. While I don't wanna say top 1 outright, he's going to be atleast top 5 (excluding Gorosei and imu).


So let me know what y'all think man. I feel like this mf being slept on hard simply because his time to get focus hasn't come, as the series hasn't reached the point where World Government is the direct enemy, but only the Marines/CP.​
This would explain the intimidation factor of the World Government a lot better. Remember, up until recently the Seraphim were not a thing at all, and even previously the 7 Warlords were very unruly and unstable.

For the World Government to command the respect and caution even from Yonkou like Whitebeard, Kaidou must have meant that there was a little more to its punching power than the three admirals, Sengoku and Garp... since the possibility of two or three Yonkou allying to take them down was always a risk.

I always thought something seemed off, like they must have another hidden trump card... and Imu was not an option because of the secrecy.

So for this character to fill the gap makes sense. Its also ironic that he is largely blown over because of his desk job status and perhaps to some his appearance is underwhelming, at least not as stylish or flashy looking as some others. But if you think about it, Akainu is currently working a desk job and the fact that Kong is not overly stylish looking is potentially meaningful as it may hint to his strength carrying more substance... less reliance on appearances and displays can indeed be a trait of the strong who are happy to be underestimated by their foes.

The whole concept looks good and feasible, though only time will tell. Again, I find it surprising that for most of us (including me for certain), Kong so easily flies under the radar. Unless a few of you had brought him up, like the other guy with the Kong avatar and this post here, he never would have been on my mind at all. Crazy, isn't it?
 
#12
finally some Kong appreciation..:finally::finally::finally:
i've always been intrigued by this character who was handling the Navy while WB, Roger, Xebec, Big Mom, Shiki were roaming the seas freely and creating chaos. We've all seen how taxing of job it is as we've seen from Akainu's experience.
 
#14
Not including Imu and Gorosei, Kong has the highest chance of being the strongest Marine of all time. Top 3 at least. Garp and EOS Akainu is on the list.
Agree with all of the above.

Only worry is that Garp and Sengoku are 78/79. Kong is at least 84 but could even be pushing 87 or something like that. We have never seen anyone above 60 at their peak, Big Mom (68) included.

I'd bet Kong has a similar technique to Lao G where he has stored up haki for years. This would let him fight at his peak for a limited time. Would love a fight between Kong and Akainu, magma man has been growing more and more frustrated with the WG for a while now.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#18
I don’t have high hopes for any insane showing for him or lot of relevance later down the line

At least I’d like to know his DF and /or one or two feats for him. But we won’t have more than that

Back in the days he was obviously a solid top tiers. But given his lack of relevance he wasnt stronger than Garp Roger Beard etc.

Likely around Sengoku level / solid admiral level etc
 
#19
-The fact that the head of the WG has not made more than 1 appearance makes you think how much of a hidden superpower he must be
-The most impressive thing about Kong, he's the leader of the WG but the mofo is rocking some shorts and sandals no fucks given
-Kong is so jacked he makes Garp and Sakazuki look like trainees
-The last line of defense for Marijois

People are not ready for Kong top 1 greatness
:finally:
 
#20

You two led the navy since the days of Roger.
I mean, Kong himself is saying it... And before Roger's era it was Rocks' era but the marine that destroyed Rocks was Monkey D Garp.

Also Garp seems to have 0 respect towards Kong. Leaves him talking to himself and slams his office door in his face :kobeha:


Even when Koby awakened his haki, Garp is mentioned as the one who can teach him how to use it. And Kuzan became stronger thanks to Garp's training.
:jordanmf:

So I'm not underestimating Kong but he doesn't have much to say that he is the supreme gigachad of the marines or the world government when there is Garp the hero and fist.
 
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