Questions & Mysteries Kaido's %66 = Stronger than Mihawk, And Try to Make Sense of the Bounties.
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Nah bro you’re trolling this is getting ridiculous lmao.
The dude is viewed as a subordinate and still has a higher bounty than his perceived captain.
The WG literally explains what each person’s bounty is based on, and for Buggy they list several things unrelated to his strength while the only factor listed for Mihawk is his position as the WSS.
If they think that Buggy is stronger than Mihawk, they did a terrible fuckin job of showing it lmao
The dude is viewed as a subordinate and still has a higher bounty than his perceived captain.
The WG literally explains what each person’s bounty is based on, and for Buggy they list several things unrelated to his strength while the only factor listed for Mihawk is his position as the WSS.
If they think that Buggy is stronger than Mihawk, they did a terrible fuckin job of showing it lmao
- Usopp bounty
- Cavendish had a higher bounty than zoro and equal to sanji till recently
- Pekoms and tamago having higher bounty than oven and daifuku
- All the tobiroppo bounty are arguable
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They say buggy has the power to command mihawk and crocodile. Putting him above them
You can be stronger than someone and still have the lower bounty. Mainly because the other has done more to be infamous
Most versions translate that part to say Buggy has the ability to command them, not that he is more powerful. Even if you use the word “power,” contextually it also makes sense to mean “ability” instead of “strength.”
Besides, it is canon that bounty = threat level. And considering all Mihawk has going for him is his individual strength, the only explanation for Mihawk being perceived as a bigger threat is that he is viewed as the more powerful foe.
Buggy has the command of both Mihawk and Crocodile under him. He is viewed as the mastermind of an organization that directly seeks to hunt marines. He is a former member of the PK’s crew and viewed as a rival to Shanks.
So how in the world is it possible for him to be viewed as a lesser threat than Mihawk while simultaneously being viewed as more powerful than him in addition to everything I just listed?
Mihawk’s bounty is literally game-breaking, lol
Kaido = 4.61 billion
Big mom = 4.38 billion
So the logic behind giving 3 billion to 3 captains each who fought Kaido + Big mom is total bounty of them is 8.9 billion.
The 3 captains gets 9 billion total for defeating them. Divide that to 3, and Luffy, Law and Kid gets 3 billion bounties each. 3 Captains get 9 billion for defeating 8.9 billion Emperors. Its pretty simple, and Oda was clearly thinking about this when he was arranging the bounties. Kid and Law didn't become Yonko, Luffy become Yonko, but Luffy didn't get any extra bounty.
Why it should be any different when he was arranging Buggy's Yonko bounty and Mihawk's bounty?
These bounties were arranged at the same time, I don't see why it should be any different.
From this, we can conclude that 3 billion bounty = %66 of Kaido's or %66 of Big mom's.
And so why being stronger than Mihawk = 3.1 billion?
''Buggy the Genius Jester!! On top of his prior feats... He has the power to command these other two men!!''
As a result of that, Mihawk got so mad he wanted to kill Buggy:
Since he didn't want to look inferior to Buggy, but his bounty was still higher, then what's the point? Why Mihawk was mad? Because they literally say Buggy is stronger than him and made him his underling.
Also with this we learned that:
- You can be an underling to a stronger guy, and still have bigger bounty. Mihawk is literally that.
(This is similar with Wano Zolo having 320 million while Wano Sanji having 330 million due to Vinsmoke name although Sanji wasn't an underling to Zolo, Zolo should've known as first mate of Luffy.)
- Mihawk's Yonko captain, and his superior, only gets 3.1 billion, almost equal as Law, Luffy and Kid. (obviously that's what Marines and the public think Buggy > Mihawk)
- 3.5 b Mihawk is under Yonko Buggy as Buggy's underling according to Marines and Government, but Mihawk still has bigger bounty than 2 Yonko, 3 b Luffy and 3.1 b Buggy.
This means, you can have a lower bounty than Mihawk and can still be stronger than Mihawk.
This also means being Yonko doesn't boost bounties, otherwise they would give Luffy a bigger bounty, as well as they would give Buggy 3.6 billion minimum for controlling 3.5 billion Mihawk and also controlling 1.9 billion Crocodile.
Even if you ignore about controlling Mihawk, according to Government and the Marines, Buggy also has a subordinate such as 1.9 billion Crocodile, who has bigger bounty than every YC1 we've seen so far.
Croco's 1.9 > King's 1.3, even 4.6 billion Kaido boosting King's bounty and King being a Lunarian, didn't make King's bounty as big as Croco's bounty 1.9.
If having subordinates like that, which is superior to any YC1 should boost Yonko captain's bounty, then Buggy would've minimum Kaido level 4.6 billion bounty, but he didn't get that, he only get 3.1 billion.
So this literally proves that being Yonko doesn't boost bounties.
Another proof is that BB with 2.2 billion bounty would still remain as Yonko even if he didn't get 3.9 billion increase, 3 billion Law or 3 billion Kid wouldn't become Yonko over BB.
Or that Law and Kid have equal amount of bounties as Luffy, and they have similar success on Wano, they get equal 3 billions, but only Luffy become Yonko due to subordinate differences, this proves Luffy didn't get any extra due to being Yonko.
Mihawk's additional 500 million bounty, which puts him above Buggy, has nothing to do with power. Because we know:
- They literally said Buggy is stronger than Mihawk, but Buggy gets 3.1 billion for it
- They literally said Buggy CONTROLS Mihawk's power, but still has lower 3.1 billion
Either Marines hates Mihawk, so they want him more than Buggy, due to Mihawk's past sins as a ''Marine Hunter'' or that Mihawk's Marine Hunting abilities that makes him unique, and makes him a bigger threat to Government and to Marines, so even a guy who is stronger than Mihawk also controls Mihawk, isn't as big threat as Mihawk.
How can a guy controls another guy, but still has lower bounty than the other guy?
How can Buggy have the biggest bounties that the underlings possess such as 3.5 b Mihawk and 1.9 b Croco, who both have bigger bounties than Marco or King, but Buggy still have 3.1 billion, much lower than BB, Shanks, Big mom and Kaido?
Again: this proves being Yonko doesn't boost bounties.
Because:
- Buggy gets 3.1 billion only for being stronger than 3.5 b Mihawk or 1.9 b Crocodile, not for being Yonko, he doesn't get extra otherwise he would've much bigger bounty like over 4 billion similar to Kaido, not even Kaido had underling who has 3.5 billion or even not 1.9 billion bounties, King only had 1.3 billion.
- Luffy gets 3 billion for being as strong as %66 of Kaido. Same for Law, and Kid.
- BB gets 3.9 billion for being %84 of Kaido, or Shanks 4 billion being a little higher than that, Big mom being more than that etc.
If you are not convinced that being Yonko doesn't boost bounties, then:
- ''Q: It seems like the officers who work for the Four Emperors also have very high bounties. Do they get boosts in their bount value just for being subordinate of a particular pirate?''
- E.Oda: ''Oh, yes they absolutely do.''
Yonko captains boosts yonko underlings bounties.
No one said Yonko underlings boost Yonko captain bounties.
If you think yonko underlings boost Yonko captain bounties, then that means its a never-ending cycle that they will keep boosting each other bounties non-stop, this would make absolutely no sense. And if you add the yonko underling bounties to yonko captain, then there is no point on giving seperate bounties to each Yonko underling.
For Yonko having influence and power over the new world, their individual bounties nothing to do with that, their underlings get seperate bounties for this reason and even BOOSTED with seperate bounties.
They don't add Yonko underling bounties to Yonko bounty, they give seperate bounty to each Yonko underling.
Which is why when Yonko captain dies, they don't remove the bounties of Yonko underling, it remains the same.
Also think about it, 1.3 billion Marco had the control of the remnants of WB pirates: Jozu, Vista, Izo, etc a very powerful crew. And you think Marco wouldn't get any increase for having a crew like that vs. BB Pirates in Payback war?
Its clear that it didn't unless they say otherwise, because 1.3 b looks pretty average for Marco's power when he especially showed that he is stronger than King, and his bounty is not above King, despite also having a powerful crew under his command, King didn't have control over Beasts pirates, only Kaido had. So if Marco's bounty was suppose to boosted due to controlling Jozu, Vista, Izo etc, then he would have definitely much bigger bounty than King.
Remember, even Gorosei mentioned about Marco, with remnants of WB pirates can have a chance to stop BB, but Marco still didn't get any bounty increase for having a crew like that.
Big mom = 4.38 billion
So the logic behind giving 3 billion to 3 captains each who fought Kaido + Big mom is total bounty of them is 8.9 billion.
The 3 captains gets 9 billion total for defeating them. Divide that to 3, and Luffy, Law and Kid gets 3 billion bounties each. 3 Captains get 9 billion for defeating 8.9 billion Emperors. Its pretty simple, and Oda was clearly thinking about this when he was arranging the bounties. Kid and Law didn't become Yonko, Luffy become Yonko, but Luffy didn't get any extra bounty.
Why it should be any different when he was arranging Buggy's Yonko bounty and Mihawk's bounty?
These bounties were arranged at the same time, I don't see why it should be any different.
From this, we can conclude that 3 billion bounty = %66 of Kaido's or %66 of Big mom's.
And so why being stronger than Mihawk = 3.1 billion?
''Buggy the Genius Jester!! On top of his prior feats... He has the power to command these other two men!!''
As a result of that, Mihawk got so mad he wanted to kill Buggy:
Since he didn't want to look inferior to Buggy, but his bounty was still higher, then what's the point? Why Mihawk was mad? Because they literally say Buggy is stronger than him and made him his underling.
Also with this we learned that:
- You can be an underling to a stronger guy, and still have bigger bounty. Mihawk is literally that.
(This is similar with Wano Zolo having 320 million while Wano Sanji having 330 million due to Vinsmoke name although Sanji wasn't an underling to Zolo, Zolo should've known as first mate of Luffy.)
- Mihawk's Yonko captain, and his superior, only gets 3.1 billion, almost equal as Law, Luffy and Kid. (obviously that's what Marines and the public think Buggy > Mihawk)
- 3.5 b Mihawk is under Yonko Buggy as Buggy's underling according to Marines and Government, but Mihawk still has bigger bounty than 2 Yonko, 3 b Luffy and 3.1 b Buggy.
This means, you can have a lower bounty than Mihawk and can still be stronger than Mihawk.
This also means being Yonko doesn't boost bounties, otherwise they would give Luffy a bigger bounty, as well as they would give Buggy 3.6 billion minimum for controlling 3.5 billion Mihawk and also controlling 1.9 billion Crocodile.
Even if you ignore about controlling Mihawk, according to Government and the Marines, Buggy also has a subordinate such as 1.9 billion Crocodile, who has bigger bounty than every YC1 we've seen so far.
Croco's 1.9 > King's 1.3, even 4.6 billion Kaido boosting King's bounty and King being a Lunarian, didn't make King's bounty as big as Croco's bounty 1.9.
If having subordinates like that, which is superior to any YC1 should boost Yonko captain's bounty, then Buggy would've minimum Kaido level 4.6 billion bounty, but he didn't get that, he only get 3.1 billion.
So this literally proves that being Yonko doesn't boost bounties.
Another proof is that BB with 2.2 billion bounty would still remain as Yonko even if he didn't get 3.9 billion increase, 3 billion Law or 3 billion Kid wouldn't become Yonko over BB.
Or that Law and Kid have equal amount of bounties as Luffy, and they have similar success on Wano, they get equal 3 billions, but only Luffy become Yonko due to subordinate differences, this proves Luffy didn't get any extra due to being Yonko.
Mihawk's additional 500 million bounty, which puts him above Buggy, has nothing to do with power. Because we know:
- They literally said Buggy is stronger than Mihawk, but Buggy gets 3.1 billion for it
- They literally said Buggy CONTROLS Mihawk's power, but still has lower 3.1 billion
Either Marines hates Mihawk, so they want him more than Buggy, due to Mihawk's past sins as a ''Marine Hunter'' or that Mihawk's Marine Hunting abilities that makes him unique, and makes him a bigger threat to Government and to Marines, so even a guy who is stronger than Mihawk also controls Mihawk, isn't as big threat as Mihawk.
How can a guy controls another guy, but still has lower bounty than the other guy?
How can Buggy have the biggest bounties that the underlings possess such as 3.5 b Mihawk and 1.9 b Croco, who both have bigger bounties than Marco or King, but Buggy still have 3.1 billion, much lower than BB, Shanks, Big mom and Kaido?
Again: this proves being Yonko doesn't boost bounties.
Because:
- Buggy gets 3.1 billion only for being stronger than 3.5 b Mihawk or 1.9 b Crocodile, not for being Yonko, he doesn't get extra otherwise he would've much bigger bounty like over 4 billion similar to Kaido, not even Kaido had underling who has 3.5 billion or even not 1.9 billion bounties, King only had 1.3 billion.
- Luffy gets 3 billion for being as strong as %66 of Kaido. Same for Law, and Kid.
- BB gets 3.9 billion for being %84 of Kaido, or Shanks 4 billion being a little higher than that, Big mom being more than that etc.
If you are not convinced that being Yonko doesn't boost bounties, then:
- ''Q: It seems like the officers who work for the Four Emperors also have very high bounties. Do they get boosts in their bount value just for being subordinate of a particular pirate?''
- E.Oda: ''Oh, yes they absolutely do.''
Yonko captains boosts yonko underlings bounties.
No one said Yonko underlings boost Yonko captain bounties.
If you think yonko underlings boost Yonko captain bounties, then that means its a never-ending cycle that they will keep boosting each other bounties non-stop, this would make absolutely no sense. And if you add the yonko underling bounties to yonko captain, then there is no point on giving seperate bounties to each Yonko underling.
For Yonko having influence and power over the new world, their individual bounties nothing to do with that, their underlings get seperate bounties for this reason and even BOOSTED with seperate bounties.
They don't add Yonko underling bounties to Yonko bounty, they give seperate bounty to each Yonko underling.
Which is why when Yonko captain dies, they don't remove the bounties of Yonko underling, it remains the same.
Also think about it, 1.3 billion Marco had the control of the remnants of WB pirates: Jozu, Vista, Izo, etc a very powerful crew. And you think Marco wouldn't get any increase for having a crew like that vs. BB Pirates in Payback war?
Its clear that it didn't unless they say otherwise, because 1.3 b looks pretty average for Marco's power when he especially showed that he is stronger than King, and his bounty is not above King, despite also having a powerful crew under his command, King didn't have control over Beasts pirates, only Kaido had. So if Marco's bounty was suppose to boosted due to controlling Jozu, Vista, Izo etc, then he would have definitely much bigger bounty than King.
Remember, even Gorosei mentioned about Marco, with remnants of WB pirates can have a chance to stop BB, but Marco still didn't get any bounty increase for having a crew like that.
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ZKK fans who left the forum will leave the forum again and change their names once again when Mihawk will be shown as weaker than Yonko.
You ZKK boys really lost it, what are you arguing here? You guys didn't answer 1 single thing.
Why Buggy gets 3.1 billion if not for being stronger than Mihawk?
Why even Croco has bigger bounty than Kaido's and WB's right hands King and Marco but Buggy still has lower bounty than Kaido despite having underlings with bigger bounty?
Its only because being Yonko doesn't boost bounties.
Mihawk is weaker than a guy with 3.1 billion bounty.
Albino destroys ZKK fanboys in my thread lol that should be me.
You ZKK boys really lost it, what are you arguing here? You guys didn't answer 1 single thing.
Why Buggy gets 3.1 billion if not for being stronger than Mihawk?
Why even Croco has bigger bounty than Kaido's and WB's right hands King and Marco but Buggy still has lower bounty than Kaido despite having underlings with bigger bounty?
Its only because being Yonko doesn't boost bounties.
Mihawk is weaker than a guy with 3.1 billion bounty.
Albino destroys ZKK fanboys in my thread lol that should be me.
We have 2 types of translations so far. 'have power' or 'authority'. I tried to find the raw but they were blurred at the kanji word. But here is my head cannon translation.
No word 'authority' or 'power'. My non-certified translation of course
So, before anything... I don't use translation for 'power' or 'authority'... Until someone gives raw-romaji perfectly someone have me a good quality pic
'united together by:'
Baka Hito = Stupid Human = "Clown" 🤡
No word 'authority' or 'power'. My non-certified translation of course
So, before anything... I don't use translation for 'power' or 'authority'... Until someone gives raw-romaji perfectly someone have me a good quality pic
'Two Piece', 'Set Piece', Corner kick
'united together by:'
- Buggy bounty came from his Connection with Former Roger Crew, Yonkou Shanks as if Buggy can Discuss a matter with them. That's the threat. Look at how Marine Reaction to WB-Shanks & Kaido-Linlin Made a contact
- Mihawk bounty can be after the past performance
- They're called organization / 3 faction get together with choosing 1 head (gag of course)
- Buggy bounty number can be => ba 8, GI 9 (looks like i read it in the past but not that i agree), that's make 3.189... but i interprete to another.--> 1: Hito, 8: Ba, 9: Ka... Hito baka
- They're called organization / 3 faction get together with choosing 1 head (gag of course)
- Buggy bounty number can be => ba 8, GI 9 (looks like i read it in the past but not that i agree), that's make 3.189... but i interprete to another.--> 1: Hito, 8: Ba, 9: Ka... Hito baka
Well, he got 3B Mihawk on his chair. Buggy would have <3B if Mihawk didnt join. & They're not enough without Mihawk to be called Strong Threat in the same line with Yonkou
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Being weaker than 3.1 billion guy and the fact that being Yonko doesn't boost bounties that changes everything, sorry Fralown.
Keep repeating same things like ZKKtards you will escape like some ZKK fanboys after you see Mihawk is weaker than any Yonko.
True, just like God Usopp > Franky and Wano Sanji 330 > Wano Zolo 320.
Mihawk's power threat is weaker than 3.1 b thats confirmed. Its just he is more dangerous due to other things like Marine Hunting expertise.
Keep repeating same things like ZKKtards you will escape like some ZKK fanboys after you see Mihawk is weaker than any Yonko.
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I could tell who made the thread just by reading the title 
Mihawk is no doubt seen as the biggest threat in Cross Guild, hence why he has the highest bounty there.
Mihawk is no doubt seen as the biggest threat in Cross Guild, hence why he has the highest bounty there.
Mihawk's power threat is weaker than 3.1 b thats confirmed. Its just he is more dangerous due to other things like Marine Hunting expertise.
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Did you try to quote a ZKK fan and accidently quoted me? Lol.
ZKK is the incarnate of Zolo fanboys mind, they are reading something different than what regular people read. They got exposed via ZKK, Oda don't care their wishes. Zolo is not even worthy to finish a deathbed Kaido.
Thats the reason Morgans called him fifth Yonko otherwise he should've get more than 1.5 billion as ''fifth Yonko'' that also proves my point that being Yonko doesn't boost bounty.
Law and Kid gets 3 billion, 2 times more than fifth Yonko Luffy but still they are not even fifth Yonko
ZKK is the incarnate of Zolo fanboys mind, they are reading something different than what regular people read. They got exposed via ZKK, Oda don't care their wishes. Zolo is not even worthy to finish a deathbed Kaido.
Thats the reason Morgans called him fifth Yonko otherwise he should've get more than 1.5 billion as ''fifth Yonko'' that also proves my point that being Yonko doesn't boost bounty.
Law and Kid gets 3 billion, 2 times more than fifth Yonko Luffy but still they are not even fifth Yonko
So, was emperor Blackbeard ~50% Big Mom when he had a 2 billion bounty? Want me to write the list of things BB had to amass to get a bounty barely over Crocodile? Big Mom and Kaido earned their bounties with years of activity as Great pirates while Buggy got 3 billion just for being associated with Mihawk. They don't even want to give him a bigger bounty than him even when they mistook Buggy for the captain. That's how overwhelming Mihawk's presence is. This isn't gonna stop here. Buggy's bounty is gonna skyrocket for things Mihawk will be doing from now on. Buggy will be a contender for the PK title due to Mihawk's future actions. It's too soon to fear him. Scary things are coming our way.