Questions & Mysteries If Crocodile gets a legit 1.9 billion, is he above 1.1 b Zolo and some YC1s?

If the bounties are legit, is Crocodile above average YC1s like Katakuri and Alber?


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#21
Crocodile is already awakened ever since alabasta, he was turning the ground into sand on top of controling the environment around him + he turned doors into sand back in impel down.

Crocodile was DEFINITELY awakened then, which forces oda to provide an answer to: HOW TF PRE GEAR/HAKI LUFFY WON AGAINST AWAKENED LOGIA???
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YONKO LEVEL, AT LEAST BOUNTY WISE, STARTS AT 4 BILLION BERIS HENCE THE REASON ALL YONKOS(EXCEPT LUFFY, AT LEAST CURRENTLY) HAVE ABOVE 4 BILLION BOUNTY.
 
#23
Crocodile is already awakened ever since alabasta, he was turning the ground into sand on top of controling the environment around him + he turned doors into sand back in impel down.

Crocodile was DEFINITELY awakened then, which forces oda to provide an answer to: HOW TF PRE GEAR/HAKI LUFFY WON AGAINST AWAKENED LOGIA???
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YONKO LEVEL, AT LEAST BOUNTY WISE, STARTS AT 4 BILLION BERIS HENCE THE REASON ALL YONKOS(EXCEPT LUFFY, AT LEAST CURRENTLY) HAVE ABOVE 4 BILLION BOUNTY.
Well, it's a popular theory that Crocodile already awakened back in Alabasta.



And Croc happens to be the very first character to point out about Awakening in the series.

 
#28
If you believe Mihawk should be Yonko level according to Mihawk's bounty, then Crocodile too should be minimum around some YC1s, and even more powerful than some YC1s according to bounty, we know Crocodile won't be that strong. Then how come some people being happy about Mihawk's bounty?

3 years ago I would say Crocodile gets maximum 600 million or 800 million bounty, considering he gets 1.9 billion is definitely abnormal unless you believe Crocodile surpassed YC3 level, which is debatable.

Since I gave PTSDs to a lot of people, they always make damage control threads by talking about me and now they even use my quote from 3 years ago in their signature that only proves that I destroyed a lot of these guys.

But you need to consider that 3 years ago we didn't know:

1- Mihawk is the Marine Hunter (Zolo fans said Mihawk isn't even a pirate and ''harmless'' to government)





2- Being Yonko doesn't boost bounties (Luffy bounty = Law bounty, Mihawk's Yonko captain has lower bounty than Mihawk, BB's first Yonko bounty was 2.2 billion, Luffy was fifth Emperor with 1.5 billion), this means Yonko only gets their bounty for power.



3- Yonko captains boost Yonko underling bounties (this means if captain and underling have equal power, underling gets bigger bounty than captain)




4- Crocodile gets 1.9 billion bounty:




Unless you claim Cross Guild bounties are legit for power, thus 1.9 b Crocodile should be above:

- 1.3 b Marco
- 1.3 b Alber
- 1.1 b Zolo


We all know ZKKboys will leave the forum again when Oda once again puts Mihawk in action but lets entertain this idea again,

- The argument that the some ZKK boys and Zolo fanboys are using that, Mihawk's WGS title is the only reason he gets 3.5 billion, they deny Mihawk getting extra boost due to Yonko captain boosts underling bounties, and being the Marine Hunter and joining Cross Guild etc they deny all of these.

- Then how its possible that the guy who can ''command'' Mihawk by ''power'' has only 3.1 billion? If Mihawk has bigger bounty than even his own Yonko captain, due to his power only, then why his Yonko captain is not even has equal bounty to Mihawk let alone bigger?

If what I said about Mihawk having 3 billion minimum should be true, his captain should've get minimum 3.6 billion not 3.1 billion. Oda literally tells us Mihawk's bounty is boosted for other reasons JUST LIKE CROCODILE'S 1.9 billion, so Mihawk's alone bounty, without Cross Guild and Marine Hunting, would definitely be lower thant 3.1 billion.

Then they were saying Shanks has 4 billion because he is a Yonko, which is debunked because as we see that EVEN MIHAWK'S OWN YONKO CAPTAIN Buggy, has only 3.1 billion, then why another Yonko Shanks doesn't have as same as Buggy's 3.1 billion?



''WGS Yield to his authority''



''The power to command''

If you believe Mihawk gets due to 3.5 billion because of WGS title over Shanks, and power over Shanks since you believe he is stronger than Shanks? Shouldn't be Mihawk above Shanks's bounty as well just like Mihawk is above Yonko Buggy's bounty?



Shanks can't control Mihawk by ''power'', and being Yonko doesn't boost his bounty, then why Shanks has 4 billion?

Pre-Yonko Shanks and WGS Mihawk dueled more than 12 years ago and no one won,



Mihawk: ''settle things''

And Shanks only got 1 billion bounty at the time when he had 2 hands, and dueled WGS Mihawk.

Shanks did better things since then, even better than making Mihawk his underling, he surpasses 3.1 billion range, which you get if you make 3.5 billion Mihawk your underling.

Zolo vs. Alber, Zolo defeats Alber, only gets 1.1 billion, Alber still have 1.3 billion. Buggy makes Mihawk his underling, Mihawk still has 3.5 billion, Buggy gets 3.1 billion. How do you know Zolo won't be the same? Zolo can defeat Mihawk, still end up with less than 3.1 billion bounty or around that bounty.

Because making someone your underling > defeating that someone with highdiff or extreme diff.

Zolo can never make Mihawk his underling, so I don't see how Zolo will get more than 3.1 billion when he defeats Mihawk. This also proves Mihawk's bounty has nothing to do with power.



Dont care much abt bounties. But current crocodile whoops zoro's puny ass thats for sure. only zorotards think he is some big shot

:milaugh:
 
#31
Most Shichibukai should be somewhere around this level of threat not just crocodile. The one piece fandom seems to think oda forgot all about the Shichibukai and how they are portrayed just because luffy who just barely beat three out of the original seven which was never the case. Don't get the wrong idea the yonko's top crew members for each faction are strong in their own right it is a yonko crew after all but individually they are nothing compare to the warlords. We see how Aokiji easily deals with one of the sweet generals cracker and the 3rd division commander jozu but couldn't do the same with doflamingo that's because he's built different individually than those two. Boa Hancock demonstrated taking out most if not all of navy including the vice admiral yamakaji who was commanding the fleet and Blackbeard's two titanic captains though they were weak to begin with. Only Blackbeard posed a threat to Hancock since he himself is a yonko.
 
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#34
With Buggy being a gag, Mihawk being the top tier of the group, it's very likely Crocodile will end up retconned as someone comparable to high high tiers (...) which i think Oda will showcase through his awakening.

(...) Outside of this, I think another aspect that will be highlighted will be his cunning, leadership, and intelligence, which was even pointed in his bounty intro, thus explaining a part of his bounty inflation
Very nice post which can be summarized into three distinct parts
1 Croc will be retconned (already was during Marineford)
2 Croc will be awakened just like his rival Doflamingo
3 Croc has the wits and now possibly the means to truly hurt the WG in a different way to most pirates. He is Grand Line Captain Kuro - strong, doesn't really enjoy fights but his main strength is his brain.
EOS Crocodile will be above every YC1s except EOS Zoro and Prime Rayleigh. Benn Beckman is debatable.
I imagine Croc and Doflamingo being = Law and Kidd in their initial standing as rookies and their overall potential which would put them between Yonko and YC1. Difference for the outcome of the first duo being Big Mom, WB, Kaido + Mr X were all very much in their prime back then.

Crocodile got mutilated physically (by WB?) and destroyed mentally (by WB) so he had to retreat to paradise. Doflamingo saw something so terrifying in Kaido and what happened to Crocodile so he had to ally with the Beast. Perhaps Morias fate was it.

If Crocodile and Doflamingo had joined up with Wonder boy (Shanks) they might not have stagnated like they did, heck they would likely have reached 2-3B. As we all know Law would be dead to Doffy and Kidd dead or a forced ally to Kaido if not for wonder boy (Luffy) and thus they would have died with 400-470M bounty.

It was not until Mr X declined, perhaps due to age, that Shanks could become a yonko 6 years ago. Croc and Doffy were rash and tried to do it 15-20 years ago when it was neigh impossible.

I wonder what Oda has in store for those that witnessed Rogers execution?

Yonko (PK) - Shanks/Luffy
WSS - Mihawk/Zoro
Yonko (YC1+) - Crocodile/Law, Doflamingo/Kidd, Moria/Hawkins?
Genius - Buggy/?
RA - Dragon/?
 
#37
If you believe Mihawk should be Yonko level according to Mihawk's bounty, then Crocodile too should be minimum around some YC1s, and even more powerful than some YC1s according to bounty, we know Crocodile won't be that strong. Then how come some people being happy about Mihawk's bounty?

3 years ago I would say Crocodile gets maximum 600 million or 800 million bounty, considering he gets 1.9 billion is definitely abnormal unless you believe Crocodile surpassed YC3 level, which is debatable.

Since I gave PTSDs to a lot of people, they always make damage control threads by talking about me and now they even use my quote from 3 years ago in their signature that only proves that I destroyed a lot of these guys.

But you need to consider that 3 years ago we didn't know:

1- Mihawk is the Marine Hunter (Zolo fans said Mihawk isn't even a pirate and ''harmless'' to government)





2- Being Yonko doesn't boost bounties (Luffy bounty = Law bounty, Mihawk's Yonko captain has lower bounty than Mihawk, BB's first Yonko bounty was 2.2 billion, Luffy was fifth Emperor with 1.5 billion), this means Yonko only gets their bounty for power.



3- Yonko captains boost Yonko underling bounties (this means if captain and underling have equal power, underling gets bigger bounty than captain)




4- Crocodile gets 1.9 billion bounty:




Unless you claim Cross Guild bounties are legit for power, thus 1.9 b Crocodile should be above:

- 1.3 b Marco
- 1.3 b Alber
- 1.1 b Zolo


We all know ZKKboys will leave the forum again when Oda once again puts Mihawk in action but lets entertain this idea again,

- The argument that the some ZKK boys and Zolo fanboys are using that, Mihawk's WGS title is the only reason he gets 3.5 billion, they deny Mihawk getting extra boost due to Yonko captain boosts underling bounties, and being the Marine Hunter and joining Cross Guild etc they deny all of these.

- Then how its possible that the guy who can ''command'' Mihawk by ''power'' has only 3.1 billion? If Mihawk has bigger bounty than even his own Yonko captain, due to his power only, then why his Yonko captain is not even has equal bounty to Mihawk let alone bigger?

If what I said about Mihawk having 3 billion minimum should be true, his captain should've get minimum 3.6 billion not 3.1 billion. Oda literally tells us Mihawk's bounty is boosted for other reasons JUST LIKE CROCODILE'S 1.9 billion, so Mihawk's alone bounty, without Cross Guild and Marine Hunting, would definitely be lower thant 3.1 billion.

Then they were saying Shanks has 4 billion because he is a Yonko, which is debunked because as we see that EVEN MIHAWK'S OWN YONKO CAPTAIN Buggy, has only 3.1 billion, then why another Yonko Shanks doesn't have as same as Buggy's 3.1 billion?



''WGS Yield to his authority''



''The power to command''

If you believe Mihawk gets due to 3.5 billion because of WGS title over Shanks, and power over Shanks since you believe he is stronger than Shanks? Shouldn't be Mihawk above Shanks's bounty as well just like Mihawk is above Yonko Buggy's bounty?



Shanks can't control Mihawk by ''power'', and being Yonko doesn't boost his bounty, then why Shanks has 4 billion?

Pre-Yonko Shanks and WGS Mihawk dueled more than 12 years ago and no one won,



Mihawk: ''settle things''

And Shanks only got 1 billion bounty at the time when he had 2 hands, and dueled WGS Mihawk.

Shanks did better things since then, even better than making Mihawk his underling, he surpasses 3.1 billion range, which you get if you make 3.5 billion Mihawk your underling.

Zolo vs. Alber, Zolo defeats Alber, only gets 1.1 billion, Alber still have 1.3 billion. Buggy makes Mihawk his underling, Mihawk still has 3.5 billion, Buggy gets 3.1 billion. How do you know Zolo won't be the same? Zolo can defeat Mihawk, still end up with less than 3.1 billion bounty or around that bounty.

Because making someone your underling > defeating that someone with highdiff or extreme diff.

Zolo can never make Mihawk his underling, so I don't see how Zolo will get more than 3.1 billion when he defeats Mihawk. This also proves Mihawk's bounty has nothing to do with power.



You think a background character like Alber can win against a chad like Croc? :gokulaugh:
 
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