Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1072 Spoilers Discussion
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My bad you didn't say that, however, I can also argue Kaku is much more powerful with his neck and much more lethal as a swordsman. So both characters have their advantages over the other on paper and can do things with their fruits that the other cannot. You can't just look at the areas Lucci is superior in and stop there, that makes zero sense.
Not all awakened zoans are relative but you need to understand the context. We just finished an arc full of zoans where none of the antagonists were awakened. We find out Lucci is awakened and Vegapunk hypes up how rare that is as awakening tends to overwhelm the user's mind. And then we find out Kaku shares the exact same awakening, meaning he has a much faster growth-rate than Lucci does. Until Lucci shows significantly stronger Haki you can't simply assume he has that over Kaku to such a degree. All we can assume is that Lucci is stronger but we don't know how much anymore because Kaku has clearly grown in strength more than Lucci has.
So if you can provide evidence suggesting that Kaku remains significantly weaker than Lucci I'd be happy to see it. Please, show me the panels indicating that Lucci has much stronger Haki because currently, Lucci is faster and Kaku is more powerful. Otherwise, acknowledge that Kaku has a faster growth rate. Not enough of their other stats have been shown to indicate that Lucci remains levels above like he was on EL. Until further notice, they are relative to each other. Is Lucci stronger? Yes, but if say Lucci is YC1 then Kaku is YC2, for example. The headcanon y'all come up with makes it seem like Kaku is Vet-level.
Not all awakened zoans are relative but you need to understand the context. We just finished an arc full of zoans where none of the antagonists were awakened. We find out Lucci is awakened and Vegapunk hypes up how rare that is as awakening tends to overwhelm the user's mind. And then we find out Kaku shares the exact same awakening, meaning he has a much faster growth-rate than Lucci does. Until Lucci shows significantly stronger Haki you can't simply assume he has that over Kaku to such a degree. All we can assume is that Lucci is stronger but we don't know how much anymore because Kaku has clearly grown in strength more than Lucci has.
So if you can provide evidence suggesting that Kaku remains significantly weaker than Lucci I'd be happy to see it. Please, show me the panels indicating that Lucci has much stronger Haki because currently, Lucci is faster and Kaku is more powerful. Otherwise, acknowledge that Kaku has a faster growth rate. Not enough of their other stats have been shown to indicate that Lucci remains levels above like he was on EL. Until further notice, they are relative to each other. Is Lucci stronger? Yes, but if say Lucci is YC1 then Kaku is YC2, for example. The headcanon y'all come up with makes it seem like Kaku is Vet-level.
Geo you and a few others seem to have forgotten how extensive luccis bag really is..
Same haki? Where? What are Kakus haki feats ?
Same Techniques ? Where ? Kaku doesn’t have half the bag Lucci has when it comes to Rokushiki.
Same haki? Where? What are Kakus haki feats ?
Kaku also showed hardening this chapter so yes same Haki
Same techniques means both are rokushiki users not both use exact same styles. Kaku has as much bag of techniques as Lucci
This is definitely true. Portrayal is superior to feats, so Lucci > Kaku unless it's stated in manga that things changed. Overanalyzing feats is how dudes come to wild conclusions like Kaido mid diff BM, while it's gonna be a high-extreme diff at least if Oda writes it (similar to portrayal).
Still I don't think 4000 vs 2200 tell the whole story either, even portrayal wise. Because Oda himself through manga states that doesn't say the entire story, meaning intricacies regarding this was in Oda's mind as well. It's really just how hard you physically hit at the end of the day, in base.
Still I don't think 4000 vs 2200 tell the whole story either, even portrayal wise. Because Oda himself through manga states that doesn't say the entire story, meaning intricacies regarding this was in Oda's mind as well. It's really just how hard you physically hit at the end of the day, in base.
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