Questions & Mysteries Why did Oda save logia awakenings for so late in the story?

[PurpleSwordsman]

And yet here we are 670 chapters later with no idea about logia awakenings and still not everything about advanced haki.

This is a non-argument.

It doesn't matter.
Your argument becomes invalidad when you put together Jozu vs Aokiji scene + Aokiji vs WB scene. Aokiji.
Aokiji was immune with his supposed Awakened fruit against WB stab somehow, but Jozu could wound him, kekw.

Oda wrote those scenes back when he had the idea that everyone would specialize primarily in a single type of haki.

I can see the argument for Kuzan but not Sakazuki since there’s a 0% chance his specialty would have been FS. He MAY have future sight but I highly doubt that scene is an indication.

Luffy is specialized in the 3 types of Haki existent, you know right?
Akainu having both Hakis maxed out won't be something surprising. And actually, him being a FS user, it makes sense if he already has a high destructive DF power and FS makes up for his weakness (let's say speed).

And no, you can't be able to see one, and not the other. Aokiji and Akainu scenes are the same. Both ignored Haki attacks for some reasons, which we find out with Katakuri's fight.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Luffy is specialized in the 3 types of Haki existent, you know right?

You didn’t read the post or didn’t understand what I said. At the time when Oda was writing Marineford, he though that all haki users would be proficient at one type of haki and that’s it.

He said this verbatim in an SBS right after the time skip and that it applied to everyone. For the SHs specifically he said Luffy specializes in conquerors (no longer true since he has all 3), Zoro specializes in armament (no longer true since he has CoC now), and Sanji specializes in observation (still basically true).

My point is that there’s absolutely 0 chance Oda had Akainu down as someone who was first and foremost a COO user. Which means he did not write that scene with COO in mind and it cannot be taken as evidence of FS

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

You didn’t read the post or didn’t understand what I said. At the time when Oda was writing Marineford, he though that all haki users would be proficient at one type of haki and that’s it.

He said this verbatim in an SBS right after the time skip and that it applied to everyone. For the SHs specifically he said Luffy specializes in conquerors (no longer true since he has all 3), Zoro specializes in armament (no longer true since he has CoC now), and Sanji specializes in observation (still basically true).

My point is that there’s absolutely 0 chance Oda had Akainu down as someone who was first and foremost a COO user. Which means he did not write that scene with COO in mind and it cannot be taken as evidence of FS

"At that time" FS didnt exist. Again, invalid argument. He didnt write that with CoO in mind, simple.
In the same way he didnt draw everyone losing their shit over Luffy's CoC at MF when in the current manga we have CoC users there and here, making that surprising shit incoherent and stupid.
That's why I said earlier how I think he did the Katakuri's power based on those scenes.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

"At that time" FS didnt exist. Again, invalid argument. He didnt write that with CoO in mind, simple.
In the same way he didnt draw everyone losing their shit over Luffy's CoC at MF when in the current manga we have CoC users there and here, making that surprising shit incoherent and stupid.
That's why I said earlier how I think he did the Katakuri's power based on those scenes.

But that’s just as much pure speculation as my own headcanon, so what’s the point?

 

[Herrera95]

He has no clue of what they do.

 

[Onepiecedying]

Oda write one piece just like a video games who still not 100% finish but already releasing it
And fans cheering up like he already know it all along
But
I BET HE STILL DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ONE PIECE REALLY IS

 

[Chiji_]

It’s for the strongest class of devil fruit and mainly admiral characters, Sabo, possibly Dragon wield them so they super endgame material

 

[vikas]

He cannot plan it. Same reason why Kaido did not awaken...he did not plan and could not scale it.

 

[Just a member]

2 chances: one is if this is indeed powerful and it is the admiral weapon to stay relevant despite poor coc. Or simply they will get advanced coc as well but their awakening will not be anything too special. 2nd option is that simply Oda will go over it like he went over half the stuff in Wano.

 

[grey matter]

Logia is the peak of DF.
Saving the best for the last.

I would theorize that Enel's buff thunder "god" mode was a psuedo awakening, but that's just a theory.

Orrr..........maybe Loda didn't think of it yet lmao

 

[ConquistadoR]

Katakuri is a Logia for all practical purposes, he was even introduced as one in the Weekly release until it was changed in the Volume release because Mochi is manmade and not an element.
Oda didn't change a single thing about his powers, only the type was changed.
His Awakening is pretty much what Logia Awakening is gonna look like.

 

[Acct973]

Crocodile was able to turn surroundings into sand in Alabasta and Impel down. I think he is awakened.

 

[Kiiro]

He is still thinking what their awakening powers could be.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

He didn't save it though

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

But that’s just as much pure speculation as my own headcanon, so what’s the point?

My "headcanon" is partly true.
Despite having Sentomaru and Boa sisters Barrier Haki display prets, we didnt see that until Wano despite having Armament Haki display for hundreds of chapters. We even have a fight against a Yonko crew before Wano and no one knew about Barrier Haki.
So yes, Oda does that.

On the other hand, like I said, the evidence for now is clear since Akainu and Aokiji' scenes have the same development as with Katakuri. And there are no powers aside this one, FS, to explain this.
So until proven otherwise, it's FS. For now it doesnt exist that so called special Logia Awakening which needs a strong CoC to counter it. That's pure fiction.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

it’s absolutely broken and requires the highest level of COC to counter

Yes. Blackbeard doesn’t have CoC, but he has a logia. How will he still be a threat to Luffy?

 

[Indigo]

Why did Oda save Zoan Devil Fruits to be the last one of the 3 types to introduce?

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

For now it doesnt exist that so called special Logia Awakening which needs a strong CoC to counter it.

I disagree I think Shanks knocking GB out of his chonky form is foreshadowing.

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Why did Oda save Zoan Devil Fruits to be the last one of the 3 types to introduce?

Because Oda probably was just making shit up without a plan until the end of Alabasta.

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

I disagree I think Shanks knocking GB out of his chonky form is foreshadowing.

That is completely another thing.
For that form GB needs to want to transform into and hold it, so an external force which affects your entire body where you lose control over it for a moment is totally normal.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

That is completely another thing.
For that form GB needs to want to transform into and hold it, so an external force which affects your entire body where you lose control over it for a moment is totally normal.

This is pure fiction and nonsense