I wanted to do a sensative topic about a vietnam bride being smuggled into rural china and chained up for 8 years. Apperently a woman who checked up on her and made noise about was threaten and later dissappeared...

The vietnam bride has been living chained by the neck for years and had 8 children. Not sure of the public sentiments but they seemed okay with it. It might have been waaaaaay too much and my political topic are more problem solving than shock value
Horrible AS HELL
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Pretty right i can assume mate
 
No. This is just how I function in debate in general.

The ability to reply to a crowd while being alone only works if I see the crowd as a big blob. I'm not fighting the people, I'm fighting the arguments.. so yeah .. sometime I put something wrong on someone's mouth but I correct myself if that happen and it happens rarely, I'm usely good at tracking the arguments.

That's how I kept my ground for month against 15ish people while being alone on the Nakama thread. I almost never go personal only the arguments are important.

Actually when someone is toxic I don't really care about it, I'll forget about it anyway (except in the case of a negative repetition like Bob). What I care about is for them to understand that they are being toxic. So when a transphobic argument appears or something toxic is said .. well I call the person out.. so they feel a bit triggered, but there is nothing personal in my statements. I'm just pointing a mirror at them and I forget about it.

That's also why sometime I might forget that I called someone a transphobe or a sexist. I'm always open for people to change so I don't really care about their past.


bye mate.
That strategy sucks for a discussion. You can't just lump people together like that unless you hope to accomplish something like making them mad. Instead of telling people what they are, you should firmly stand on your point. At the very least mske them come to you instead all this uncontrolled name calling.
 
That's what happens when you impose that stupid one child policy on a country that rather aborts girls and prefers a male heir
Yes, quite sad really. Apperently the buyer of vietnam brides are poor/old/ugly. Rich people seem to have no trouble getting chinese girl friends.

Oh well, at least it not the most common issue. Vietnam people usally get employment trafficked. Usually promised a good job and their boss holds their passport. If they don't like it the boss will misplace* the passport. Happens with both genders so basically slaves.

I believe there was a recent crazy story about casino workers running accross the border, and the casino threating to kill them if they don't get back to work.
 
He's locked up in my basement.
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Same. Gonna be a lot of fun. I already plan to play good and bad walkthroughs.

I hope for the good side u can become an Auror or some shit.
I'm definitely gonna play the bad side. It's been a while since I had interest into a HP game like that.

As for the angry woke community; Idc if they try to boycott the game, it's gonna be their issue to miss on an interesting game. Also, it's nonsense to mix political themes into games imo. They're meant to be fiction, apart of reality. They're meant to fascinate you. At least that's my view on successful games.
 
That strategy sucks for a discussion.
Not really. That way the discussion stay focused on the real problematics: the argument.

While in the process it might make me appears as a lunatic, it's very effective to make people learn something even when they don't want to learn about it.


Instead of telling people what they are,
This is only a part of what I do. Most of the time, I'm explaining thing. People even those like you who kinda agree with me, only remember the moment when I call them out on their toxicity. But in reality - if you look at my post - 90 % of my post are constituated of either :

- Evidences of what I claim
- Argumentation about the subject
- A huge load of sources
- Conceptualization (in the case of the Nakama thread)
- Pedagogy

In reality the moment where I say "you are transphobic" are very scares.

But you need to understand that calling someone out on their toxicity is a necessity. Not only for them, but also for those who could get hurt by such toxicity. There needs to be someone to tell those people that what there are doing is not ok. Even if it trigger them.

For example look at the post that started this discussion:


Instead of telling people what they are,
This is only a part of what I do. Most of the time, I'm explaining thing. People even those like you who kinda agree with me, only remember the moment when I call them out on their toxicity. But in reality - if you look at my post - 90 % of my post are constituated of either :

- Evidences of what I claim
- Argumentation about the subject
- A huge load of sources
- Conceptualization (in the case of the Nakama thread)
- Pedagogy

In reality the moment where I say "you are transphobic" are very scares.

But you need to understand that calling someone out on their toxicity is a necessity. Not only for them, but also for those who could get hurt by such toxicity. There needs to be someone to tell those people that what there are doing is not ok. Even if it trigger them.

For example look at the post that started this discussion:
As no one is talking, let me grab the conversation for a moment.

So you all know that "Hogwarts Legacy" (the Harry Potter Universe's game) is coming up soon on february 10.

While I won't say to you "do not buy the game" (for reasons I will developp later) as you are all entitle to your opinions and choices of freetime, I think it's important to replace this game into its context.

First you must know one thing: People who worked on the game have already been paid. What you might not know on the other hand is that some people will receive money from copyright ownership. In short, the more the game will be sold, the more the money going to them. And among those people is - you guessed it - J K Rowling. Now I will talk about J K Rowling later but I want to talk about another subject first as I will try to be as inclusive as I can on this subject I will start at the basics:


Do you know who Transgender people are ?

It's okay if you don't, until a few years ago, I was completely oblivious to them and their struggles. First, a bit of basic:


As you may have understood here. It's important to separate sex and gender as those notion are scientifically and sociologically different.

Now, what being a Transgender really means ? I won't explain it to you, I will let Trans people tell you all about it:

From a science approach:


To a sociological approach:



It's important to understand that being Transgender is NOT a mental illness.


Therefore, all transgender people are VALID. They ALL deserve the same rights as Cisgender People. They deserve the same right as you and me.

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What is important here, is to understand that Trans people are DISCRIMINATED and OPPRESSED by our differents societies:

For diverse act of violence against trans people:


To people who are trying to criminilize Trans communities or those who help them through moral panics:

https://youtu.be/6r-Uga_oR28

https://youtu.be/oAeKAJFrb0w

https://youtu.be/ErRmflBW4Zk

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This is where we need to talk about J K Rowling.

You see J K Rowling is now an well know anti Trans activist. She is what we call a "TERF", "a Trans-exclusionary radical feminist". "A person whose views on gender identity are considered hostile to transgender people, or who opposes social and political policies designed to be inclusive of transgender people."

https://youtu.be/_GBUArD51KY?t=817

Terf are known to be transphobe, this is not a news. But what is starting to become more concerning is the fact that this transphobe ideology (and JK Rowling as well as her followers) is starting to flirt with really DARK movements: the alt-right and fascist kinds.

(This following one is actually quite horrific)

https://youtu.be/Ou_xvXJJk7k

https://youtu.be/XyODMw6Xm-8


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This is where WE can have an influence:

You see, by refusing to finance those people, we are actually lessening the probabilities of those dark transphobes ideology to be shared. That's why it's important to understand where your money will go once you buy property owned by those type of people.

https://youtu.be/rdfNQIOIReU

This is not a thread meant to culpabilize you. You would be completely legitimate to buy a game like Hogward Legacy, after all it looks like a cool game and I would LOVE to play it also.. but...

At least, you have the context.

While it might be the best Harry Potter game. Buying that game, is beneficial to the anti trans politics.

Now, You have all the informations to make a good choice.
On this post you will find out that i NO WAY I call people out (beside JKR) the only thing is do is say "ok, before you take the game here is some context. You can buy the game after that but at least you will have the context behind the problematics of this game"

First reply was: @Peroroncino saying

Can't wait for hogwarts legacy :finally:
Well okay fine.. this is their choice.. I don't mind. After all this look like a cool game, so why not..

The problem came after. Let's look at the conversation shall we?

No joke it looks AMAZING
Something I agreed with.. adding to that that it was hearthbreaking for me:

Indeed, that's what so hearthbreaking about it
And here started the transphobia rethoric.

I support trans but it is a bit idiotic to pander to one group so much. Sometimes they just have to suck it up and accept things won't always go their way
So here.. Adam explained that Trans people should just suck it up.. because all things can't go their way
Translated "I support trans people but they have to suck it up if necessary."

So no, you don't support trans people. And that's okay if that's what you think is good for you. To that I reply:

Buy Hogward Legacy, don't mind me, it looks like a cool game, I completely understand that choice. But at least now - if you read the thread - you will have the tools to understand the context behind your choice.
So.. here. i'm not name calling for nothing.

The transphobia that started with my post was a reality. And a LOT more people came with the same kind of arguements.. some outrights hatefull.

This is why, depiste being an argumentator, I must also call out the toxicity of people.

Those discourse are just not acceptable.
 
You would be right if it wasn't for the fact that you're wrong.
Ik i'm right from the fact of that you conflate natural tendencies with moral one like what's rape got to do with natrual roles

What can naturally be the case for gendered individually should be how we are mental to function

If you cross against nature you'll beget consequences

Which the west is atm
 

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Welcome to the House of Hope
Ik i'm right from the fact of that you conflate natural tendencies with moral one like what's rape got to do with natrual roles

What can naturally be the case for gendered individually should be how we are mental to function

If you cross against nature you'll beget consequences

Which the west is atm
"the west".

Aren't arab countries the "warlords" of oil as well?

Bold of you to assume there are saint countries anywhere.
 
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