Controversial the abortion question

[Bisoromi Bear]

And I know for a fact that sex isn't a taboo subject in a lot of Western countries, so even parents or family members can teach their kids about sex.

Then you don't seem to know much about Western countries.

I learned about it in school. From the biology book.
Not from adults in my private life.

 

[NikaInParis]

Even though I am pro choice but to be fair the analogy between sperm wasting during mastrubation and fetus is fuckin bad lol

Finally someone was sane enough to admit that

 

[Toby D. Dog]

No. My point is a man and woman need to acknowledge that the intercourse they are about to have can lead to a baby despite the precautions they are taking, then be satisfied with that risk, and only then proceed to sex.

Again, sex can be fun and we have a biological need built into us for it. But It's main purpose was to procreate. If a man and woman can't handle that there is 1%, 3% or 5% chance that this next 1 hour can lead to a baby, they shouldn’t be having sex in the first place.

It depends a lot on the values ultimately. Western people (and other asian countries I don't speak for) consider sex to be a lot more trivial than we do (at least used to, a lot has changed in BD over the last 30-40 years). And because we don't/didn’t used to think of sex as trivial, people didn’t get shocked when they became pregnant. That is not to say that unhealthy abortion practices didn’t exist in my country. Men have done horrible things to women to get them to abort.

Finally, I am not going to tell anyone anything. I am outlining my view. I am not the kind of guy to try and enforce my views on to others. I state what I want to state and debate what I want to.

I am well aware of where the world is heading towards and I know my values will slowly disappear.

I truly admire your intellectual honesty. We don't agree in the end but I feel like your argument is being made in good faith for the most part.

 

[AL sama]

That just proved my point. You knew how babies are made before you were old enough to have sex. I am from a 3rd world country. We had sex ed in school—our country is at the bottom of the pit when it comes to education standards. And I know for a fact that sex isn't a taboo subject in a lot of Western countries, so even parents or family members can teach their kids about sex. I mean people don't even talk about sex openly in my country, and even I know how it's done at a relatively young age.

senpai its solis for heaven's sake lol

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Then you don't seem to know much about Western countries.

I learned about it in school. From the biology book.
Not from adults in my private life.

Bro, you legit confirmed my proposition was true when you said you had sex-ed when you were 12. It doesn't matter where you learned it from, the point is that you learned it before you ever had sex in your life—unless you're having sex before you become old enough, so education isn't the issue here.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I truly admire your intellectual honesty. We don't agree in the end but I feel like your argument is being made in good faith for the most part.

Yes that's a rare one

Unlike certain mods here

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Yes that's a rare one

Unlike certain mods here

I dislike it when they play devil's advocate.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

senpai its solis for heaven's sake lol

I am replying for the readers, Senpai.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I'm 100% certain that Bobby is evil. He just posted the thread and then dipped. GET HELP BOBBY!

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I dislike it when they play devil's advocate.

I dislike when mods are powertripping and acting like internet supremacy gives them actual authority over real world opinions

 

[vikas]

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Yes

 

[vikas]

I'm 100% certain that Bobby is evil. He just posted the thread and then dipped. GET HELP BOBBY!

Maybe he wanted some personal help but realized it was useless to ask here

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Maybe he wanted some personal help but realized it was useless to ask here

I've told him a million times to go to a therapist. He just ignores me at this point. Idk why he uses this forum to exclusively talk about political subjects.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Maybe he wanted some personal help but realized it was useless to ask here

This is one of his better threads ngl

 

[AL sama]

Bro, you legit confirmed my proposition was true when you said you had sex-ed when you were 12. It doesn't matter where you learned it from, the point is that you learned it before you ever had sex in your life—unless you're having sex before you become old enough, so education isn't the issue here.

education is an issue tbh

many states and schools in USA are giving sex'ed to 5 or 6 years old kids in a very describing manner

 

[Toby D. Dog]

education is an issue tbh

many states and schools in USA are giving sex'ed to 5 or 6 years old kids in a very describing manner

 

[Gol D. Roger]

education is an issue tbh

many states and schools in USA are giving sex'ed to 5 or 6 years old kids in a very describing manner

That's a completely different topic altogether, and it's sickening in all honesty.

 

[Logiko]

Except for extenuating circumstances, abortion is murder.

I do not accept it as a mean of escaping responsibility.

Peeps use it like it's a birth control pill or something

it's murder and nothing will change that fact

I don't care that much about abortion. It is not something us brown people need to worry about.

I'm pro abortion, but it is still murder.

I do not believe that abortion as a form of birth control should be used.

These are tuned in a way where abortion has either become an inevitable choice or just a casual option for frivolity of some people.

Allowing easy access to abortion isn't the way to teach these teens to be more responsible IMO

So, we should do our best to practice safe sex and also keep in mind that there is this risk of getting pregnant, in which case they need to welcome it.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

That's a completely different topic altogether, and it's sickening in all honesty.

That shit ain't happening outside of your heads.