ESC - Who shall win?

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MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
Lord tentai said he was gonna turn apollo into a hostile anyways so we should lynch that actually.
And I read his role and it does say he can choose a new vessel.
Idk if lord tentai would petty enough to do it but he probably most likely is.

Vote lynch apollo
he was banned after his lynch and his role flipped so he wont be coming back.
 

Mashiro Blue

𝓦𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝓾𝓹𝓸𝓷 𝓪 𝓼𝓱𝓸𝓸𝓽𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓼𝓽𝓪𝓻 ✰
I won't answer this for now
This will make it the 3rd unexplained one

Flowa
Broki
And now Biden

I hope we get to see some full explaination soon Mr. Miller.

Alright, let's take a look at MUUGEN posts for this DP and how he handled himself so far after tentei flip.

Most of these quotes were in one big post from muugen and I broke it down to look at the interactions he had with Apollo separately. (You are welcome scrubs)

Now, if I was MUUGEN and saw tentei flip and then read Apollo accusation on him, I would know immediately that apollo is capping here because you would think town MUUGEN would not tolerate such BS from scum right? let's see.




The first quote from apollo muugen decided to comment on. He is questioning why apollo would share such information, but that information was already outed by fuji before apollo subbed in for him. Not sure why Muugen here acts like he seen it the first time. Did he miss it? eh maybe need to check if he commented about it for fuji. But can also behave completely clueless here.
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Here MUUGEN comments on Apollo claiming that he switched alignment with MUUGEN and that the guilty result is on MUUGEN not him. You can see that MUUGEN is stating the results are false and not true, and basically elaborate on how apollo is very possible scum here. Now from town MUUGEN POV, if he see this post, you would think he could come swinging on Apollo here and place a vote on him. Yet he does not and only shade him as being scummy without pushing further. No way you as town would sit down and see another player accuse you of scanning guilty when you are town and not do anything about it. Makes no sense, apollo should be MUUGEN number one priority here. Him not voting him does not look good to me.

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This interaction makes no sense, he shades Apollo here basically saying that Apollo was team working with Tentei lol. The shading here makes no sense, tentei was a serial killer. There was no team work involved between Apollo and Tentei here....


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Here MUUGEN states that tentei role was janitored when that was not the case? Tentei role was revealed completely. So not sure why he is assuming tentei is scum here? isn't paying attention? Tentei claim is most likely true and Random asshole confirmed that tentei did indeed use an investigative ability, there is no point for random asshole to lie and by scrolling through tentei role you would see that his absorb ability checks out. (I will have to go and check some posts from rej to double check something, but it makes sense)
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Nothing insightful here, matter of fact I have more stuff to say regarding apollo than MUUGEN here.

'I'll probably be the main target for the night lynch.' is literally WIFOM excuse to explain his behavior for outing such information. I am not sure what was the high risk reward in this at all? how is swiping alignment with someone is a high risk reward???


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Apollo here replies to all MUUGEN posts and MUUGEN replies to him is rather..... passive? thanking him for sharing his inputs? what? why would town muugen do that? why would he be this friendly to a person who is literally saying that the guilty scan was on MUUGEN? This makes no sense, he even says that he understands why fuji chose him as his target and that only the guilty results need to be shared, but isn't that what apollo did? he shared that if tentei investigation on him is true then MUUGEN is the guilty one here. Like I am not following what's going on MUUGEN thought process here if he is town.

He then ask for apollo thoughts after tentei flip???

MUUGEN claims he pressured and pushed for apollo but does this sound like pushing/pressuring someone? I don't know, he interacted with him sure but how can you be this passive to the person who is accusing you for investigating guilty? This is not townie POV at all.






Here MUUGEN proceeds to vote for Apollo and states that he is willing to be lynched next if apollo flips townie. You would think MUUGEN is confident that apollo is scum here. I mean he has to? given the situation right? But here is the kicker, and what I didn't like.

MUUGEN proceeds to derail and goes ahead and start fishing for the biden role???? why? he even went further ahead and changed his vote to ekko because he assuming that ekko is biden here. How is a mere assumption on biden alignment is more scummy than apollo here from MUUGEN POV???






MUUGEN then comes and start sussing me because i was pushing for apollo then voted for muugen and start questioning him, and saying that I am higher priority to lynch than apollo if I am biden (which I am not) and he has his vote parked on Ekko.


MUUGEN here is not behaving from a townie POV and his derail from apollo to fishing biden role and wanting to lynch him over a person who is literally accusing him of being scum makes no sense. I believe there is a decent chance MUUGEN is scum here.

@MUUGEN you stated you have mechanical reasons on why you were not pushing so hard for apollo? you need to out them asap.

Final conclusion is that you are probably just scum here.


@Mashiro Blue
@Random Asshole
@Juliet
@Ekkologix
@Charlie
@Kagurashii
@Naomi
@Gambit
@oddoddfruit
@Michelle
@AL sama
@Destroya
@SoulKiller
@Flower
@Udell
@BakiDou


Tagging you peeps because I want to hear your opinion regarding MUUGEN behavior so far and tell me what you think.
It may not make sense from Town Muugen POV shikasi

Using my Omnipotent and Everpresent in all games Indie Eyes (no, I'm not claiming Indie) let's take a look at it in skoom Muu POV

He knows he's skoom. He also knows there a second Mafia team. Apollo's ability is ineherently scummy. So Muu would think that there's a good chance that Apollo is in the opposing Mafia team. As previously said, Mafia teams going at each this early would not be the optimal play as it would be better to off Townies first. So he exchanges some posts with Apollo and extends to him an olive branch by not going hard on him. Apollo, knowing that his ability is real, does the same to Muu for reasons explained above.

There's something worrying in skoom Muu's viewpoint though. Muu knows he himself is scum and knows that Dest, Charlie and Rott are not in his mafia team, so he knows that Biden's list is the real deal. An ability to find scum in a wagon is something that scum cannot leave it alone as it's too powerful and this threat needs to be found and dealt with immediately. As such he starts fishing for Biden's role to off the player. This enables two things:

1- To shift the focus from the Apollo/Muu debate

2- To find and kill Biden before he checks more wagons (if he has more than 1-shot at it)

It makes perfectly sense from scum Muu POV.

You're welcome

 
I mean, I don't necessarily agree but I do appreciate the effort. Just checked your last post and you've put almost everyone whom I townread as your suspicious list. :milaugh:
Already told yall the vast majority of yall are not trustworthy. People thought I was trolling with my opening post smh. I also think you are scum btw, I just list some people who are at the top of my mind. I would hop any wagon town build. Yall are gonna decide the lynch, not me. So don't worry about me.
if you had decided to actually participate in the game you wouldve known for pein and als claims they were so horribly bad that al didnt share his alignment check negation until after pein claimed which was the same ability that scum had previous in the last game that claim was identically the same and then pein said it was conditional miller then left the game and claimed the conditional bit so horrendously bad that he needed help from kekko maybe who interfered in my push on him.

youre just lazy and dont really have shit on me other than i sussed you D0 and you said yourself you scumread me for "nonsense" your words not mine. yawn. i mean the proof is in the pudding we can ask @Naomi @Destroya @AL sama @Charlie if i wasnt actually pushing apollo at the start of this phase.

laid low when, when i wasnt even on the forum?

since then ive maintained the status of a top 5 poster - game has nothing to do with how you start unless youre kagu lol

you should go read back and find the case in juliet. flower hasnt done anything to make her claim to al believable have you seen her cause i havent she even said she would be back tomorrow after cycle had just began, al vouches for flower here cause he has her rolesheet or something along those line. ive also still stated continuous times that al is someone who i doesnt fully sound town given his ability of being alignment proof, you mustved missed it.


pleb
Ok cool
 
:sweat:

I'll catch up later btw. What are your thoughts on Apo, SK, Muugen and AM rn?
I think Apollo vs Muugen is just scum vs scum.

SK I‘m on the fence on tbh. There are reasons why I‘m a bit wary of him rn. Al knows them, not gonna elaborate further until I know more. Because SK can be a very great asset if he‘s Town, so I won‘t judge until it‘s clearer.

I never know with AM tbh. Would just lynch at one point in all honesty.
 

Apollo

The Sol King
@Apollo can u paraphrase ur ability pls? the one that switch alignments. That feels hella convenient response to rion's invest result. also did fuji provide a reason why wud he swap alignments with muugen? i dont recall fuji scum reading muugen
I target a player and change investigation results with them. The invest is limited to alignment, so we basically switched alignments.

As for fooj, it was something along the lines of "so muugen might be scum, oh well thats for whoever subs in to decipher"

what did u mean by the bolded?
I'm alone now, might not be later. A few already guessed what I meant by it.

So you can track, investigate and now you're telling me you get psychic results? Rej sure made Conan strong...:pepecafe:
Read back a bit udell, you'll find that I am no psychic, I didn't claim that ability.

While going through Apollo posts I noticed a big contradiction that looks really bad on the guy.

Apollo claimed that this ability was used to check baki alignment and I am taking screen shots here cause it's easier tbh.


But fuji did not claim that ability when he told us that he investigated baki. Fuji stated that he used this ability to get baki alignment.


@Apollo how come you and fuji state different things?

I also went back to see if an investigation ability has been taken and surprise surprise.


An investigative ability was taken, but there was no name beside it. I am assuming that was the tracking glasses tentei was talking about???

If anyone else took that investigative ability then please out it.

While going through tentei posts his way how he described getting the ability is fishy as fuck and some of it makes no sense, but random asshole confirmed that tentei indeed used an investigative ability so......
Sorry, I posted the same screen shot twice.

This is the ability fuji claimed he has used on baki to get his alignment check which contradicts with apollo.

Further more, apollo derailing and trying to put focus on a list that you can't even confirm it's validaty over pushing muugen is fishy as fuck. Hell, MUUGEN name was in that list and you would think he would be more confident in muugen being scum and using that list as even further reason to push muugen here but he does not. You came last DP stating you caught scum in a silver plate and then next DP you derail from it and instead focus on a list and suggest us to lynch a player from there when MUUGEN is also there as well. Like it makes no sense, you would never hesitate not voting muugen here if you truly swiped alignment.

Plus, that contradiction I pointed out does not look good on you mate.

@Apollo
There is no contradiction, I already talked with Baki about it.
Studying session was activated, then rolecop was used on Baki.
Its much more accurate to say rolecop than studying session.

For now, I am waiting for the last nail in the coffin. I can still give the scum on a silver plate.
 
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