Character Discussion I feel like Usopp was demoted as firstmate for "other" reasons.

#27
I know it's not what you want to hear but around the start of One Piece Black characters were around their highlight. With african Americans completely dominating culture around the world in the 80s and 90's. Black characters were seen as special duel protagonist and rivals to the main character and worked as a tool to broaden the range of the audience. 1997bwas about the end of that era aswell. With audiences hating uub the minute his little brown face appeared on screen.

One of Oda's editor probably said hey get rid of this Usopp fella in order to make way for a more Japanese based character. Besides don't pirates like to fight with swords. I'm sure hearing that as a possible reason for your lord and savior to have risen in the ranks is infuriating but I'm just pointing out the obvious. I mean for all the people in the universe for Goku to choose to become his replacement he chose uub. Which would instantly make that character a fan favorite ontop of literally being the reincarnation of buu. But we know why people hate uub. We know why people hate shirahoshi and vivi and Rebecca and Bonney.

Anyways yep.
Bruh

I acknowledge that there is racism against black and dark skinned people in many places, including Japan.
But you're overthinking it.
 
#33
I know it's not what you want to hear but around the start of One Piece Black characters were around their highlight. With african Americans completely dominating culture around the world in the 80s and 90's. Black characters were seen as special duel protagonist and rivals to the main character and worked as a tool to broaden the range of the audience. 1997bwas about the end of that era aswell. With audiences hating uub the minute his little brown face appeared on screen.

One of Oda's editor probably said hey get rid of this Usopp fella in order to make way for a more Japanese based character. Besides don't pirates like to fight with swords. I'm sure hearing that as a possible reason for your lord and savior to have risen in the ranks is infuriating but I'm just pointing out the obvious. I mean for all the people in the universe for Goku to choose to become his replacement he chose uub. Which would instantly make that character a fan favorite ontop of literally being the reincarnation of buu. But we know why people hate uub. We know why people hate shirahoshi and vivi and Rebecca and Bonney.

Anyways yep.
usopp is still the vice captain. zoro has literally never once been referred to as vice captain or first mate on an official basis, and Oda even recently made fun of people who think this way by making the only character in the story who thinks Zoro is the vice captain be Bartolomeo, the retarded fanboy. people hated Uub because he was a brand new character that the show pretended was both the next Goku and also the old character everyone liked. He's not black, hes Poochy from the simpsons.
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Why do you think usopp was demoted?
he wasn't. you're hallucinating. he was probably the biggest tactical mind next to Law in the last arc and may not have had a 1v1 fight, but he had the most scenes of organizing and running the war on onigashima. the straw hats would not have won without Usopp's tactical decisions
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I think Zoro is. That's why zoro Ganboys have been calling him firstmate for decades but he remains titleless. Atleast Usopp had it officially at one point in time.


nothing changed since luffy zoro and nami agreed he was vice captain
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he was never firstmate but ok?
true, but he is vice captain.
 
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Apollo

The Sol King
#34
I know it's not what you want to hear but around the start of One Piece Black characters were around their highlight. With african Americans completely dominating culture around the world in the 80s and 90's.
America isn't the world, and even then there was no "domination". Just not suppressed anyomre.
Black characters were seen as special duel protagonist and rivals to the main character and worked as a tool to broaden the range of the audience. 1997bwas about the end of that era aswell.
I don't think, in shonen manga, there has ever been a black/brown deuteragonist. And Japanese people see anime characters as Japanese unless stated otherwise.
With audiences hating uub the minute his little brown face appeared on screen.
Gohan, Goku's own son had many great moments in DBZ and even then the audiences wanted Goku back which kinda ruined the Buu arc. Uub is nothing compared to Gohan in terms of being Goku's "successor" and he didn't work. Its why new Dragon Ball media still has Goku and Vegeta at its center.

One of Oda's editor probably said hey get rid of this Usopp fella in order to make way for a more Japanese based character. Besides don't pirates like to fight with swords. I'm sure hearing that as a possible reason for your lord and savior to have risen in the ranks is infuriating but I'm just pointing out the obvious. I mean for all the people in the universe for Goku to choose to become his replacement he chose uub. Which would instantly make that character a fan favorite ontop of literally being the reincarnation of buu. But we know why people hate uub.
All this is your own imagination. Also "replacement" characters barely work anywhere, and I mentioned the case with Dragon ball before.

We know why people hate shirahoshi and vivi and Rebecca and Bonney.
I don't think they do...and I'm probably from the same group that Vivi was based on.

Ussop was never the deuteragonist of One Piece, closest thing to this is Nami and Zoro. He just suffers from the same thing other strawhats suffer from- irrelevancy in favor of side characters that people usually don't care about.
 
#35
Lmfao dude in Naruto KIshimoto created a whole black village in Cloud village. I don't think that is the reason why they didn't like Uub. A better argument to be made is that DBZ portrayed black characters as stereotypes.
the better argument is black people already claimed piccolo who was cool as fuck and Uub was lame as fuck and nobody wanted him to be their boy
 
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