Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

calling something a disorder, means there is something wrong with the person
aka blatantly homophobic

So doctors that diagnose people with disorders are xyzphobic too right?Since disorder means immorality for you.I will ask again,when did i post anything questiong their morality?
read:
https://www.nytimes.com/1971/02/28/...become-heterosexual-more-homosexuals-are.html
scientists were homophobic back in the day too i suppose

 

[Seatonnes]

scientists were homophobic back in the day too i suppose

yes they were
are you seriously this ignorant?

 

[Haoshoku]

everyone agress that gay people are biologically normal.The debate is about the mental aspect of it.

It was categorized as such in the DNS in like the 70s I think before being removed. But then anyone who disagrees with anything regarding that is also diagnosed with a previously unheard of phobia known as homophobia so idk where the scientific credibility has gone when it comes to this.

 

[NAMELESS]

Should have never gotten to the point it did but they here now and it can be moderated. I just think whoever can’t contain themselves and show respect on this kind of thread is well deserving as one can be to get banned.

here is the thing:what constitutes being respectful or not?My whole argument was from the pov of some mental health workers(that are suffering a witch hunt btw) and people immediately started calling me names.Solis loves to bait,troll and call people names i have yet to see that guy banned.

 

[Bob74h]

everyone agress that gay people are biologically normal.The debate is about the mental aspect of it.

I disagree about the biological normative aspect
however as said, I think that the nature = good argument is dumb anyway

something being natural dont prove anything
I mean women dying from pregnancies is technically natural as goes miscarriages and heart attacks

nobody says those are good things

calling something a disorder, means there is something wrong with the person
aka blatantly homophobic

I dont see there being anything objectively wrong with being homosexual

every argument seems to be a faulty appeal to nature fallacy or some moral puritan viewpoint like it's degenerating society or some shit
Both of which are dumb

 

[NAMELESS]

yes they were
are you seriously this ignorant?

you are clearly biased,did you read that post?There are gay people that seek out mental professionals because they want to experience heterosexuality.

 

[Seatonnes]

you are clearly biased,did you read that post?There are gay people that seek out mental professionals because they want to experience heterosexuality.

are you actually this dumb?

 

[Haoshoku]

here is the thing:what constitutes being respectful or not?My whole argument was from the pov of some mental health workers(that are suffering a witch hunt btw) and people immediately started calling me names.Solis loves to bait,troll and call people names i have yet to see that guy banned.

Ngl it is a slippery slope when it comes to this, even if a person may not intend it just expressing certain views would be viewed as disrespectful/offensive. I would just say to avoid namecalling/insults but it ain’t up to me tho.

 

[Bob74h]

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-to-Nature


Anyone on the anti gay side is simply using dishonest fallacies

 

[NAMELESS]

I disagree about the biological normative aspect
however as said, I think that the nature = good argument is dumb anyway

something being natural dont prove anything
I mean women dying from pregnancies is technically natural as goes miscarriages and heart attacks

nobody says those are good things





I dont see there being anything objectively wrong with being homosexual

every argument seems to be a faulty appeal to nature fallacy or some moral puritan viewpoint like it's degenerating society or some shit
Both of which are dumb

well,the christian religion has always viewed this activity as a sin.But you know what they say,god hates the SIN not the sinners.As for biology,there might be something neurological related to it.Read my post above,some person had a stroke and suddenly developed an heterosexual "taste".

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Ngl it is a slippery slope when it comes to this, even if a person may not intend it just expressing certain views would be viewed as disrespectful/offensive. I would just say to avoid namecalling/insults but it ain’t up to me tho.

i agree.

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https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-to-Nature


Anyone on the anti gay side is simply using dishonest fallacies

i think you missed the entire topic.We were talking about the mental health aspects of lgbtq people.Unfortunately,made of them are depressed,suffer from anxiety and so on.

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are you actually this dumb?

reported.

 

[Tensub]

i did,no one is born gay.I have met gay people that later married and had kids.I have met a dude in this forum that has same sex attraction and wants a family.Some people do change their sexual orientation later in life,don't talk on behalf of such people.I bet,you will not look into any of these.But for anyone that is interested:

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Sex/story?id=117465&page=1
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/scienc...gene-sexuality-is-just-complex-study-confirms
https://www.theunion.com/news/twi/h...cle_3e744955-4a55-530b-a161-a85f51308471.html
https://www.quora.com/Have-you-ever...en-became-heterosexual-If-so-whats-your-story
https://www.nytimes.com/1971/02/28/...become-heterosexual-more-homosexuals-are.html

Ever heard of bisexuals?

 

[Haoshoku]

Anyone on the anti gay side is simply using dishonest fallacies

Can’t make this stuff up lmao, proceed with caution next time bruv.

 

[Bob74h]

well,the christian religion has always viewed this activity as a sin

Who cares
what the bible thinks

I care about the science and facts not if odin,ra,zeus,yahweh or whatever man made god that you wanna take belief in says something.

the bible also said we should kill non believers

do you wish my death? in that case
Im a athetist, Should you kill me?



Your going to say no right?
In which case why is it fine ignoring the bible's decrees in one sense but not another

neurological related to it.Read my post above,some person had a stroke and suddenly developed an heterosexual "taste".

You get serotin from enjoyment or pleasure
so it was always neurological

everything you do would be
Even if you enjoying replying comes from you getting dopamine hits

 

[Seatonnes]

i mean its true, anyone on the anti gay side is using dishonest fallacies

 

[Zenos7]

are we dogs?you are gonna eat shit too?

Well its you doing the appeal to nature shit, so you tell me

 

[NAMELESS]

It was categorized as such in the DNS in like the 70s I think before being removed. But then anyone who disagrees with anything regarding that is also diagnosed with a previously unheard of phobia known as homophobia so idk where the scientific credibility has gone when it comes to this.

Science was silenced by politics.People are blind to this.In my country,if some homo individual seek mental a health professional to try and get sexually re-oriented,that professional will probably lose his license if he does so.I think they should be free to experiment with stuff if people are voluntarily seeking this.But no,its xyzphobic...

 

[Zenos7]

Very poor justification for said action, probably the poorest one you can attempt to come up with. Animals also commit what would be called murder and walk around naked. Imagine someone said they’re allowed to walk naked because the animal world does it lmao. What they do isn’t in line with human moral standards dawg.

Its not a justification. Its just adressing the "iTs UnNaTuRaL" crowd

 

[NAMELESS]

Well its you doing the appeal to nature shit, so you tell me

I said it goes against human biology,you are comparing humans to animals.This is not even an argument,the human brain is a unique thing.

 

[Bob74h]

i think you missed the entire topic.We were talking about the mental health aspects of lgbtq people.Unfortunately,made of them are depressed,suffer from anxiety and so on.

straight women and men are depressed too
Meaning it's not homosexuality causing the stress and mental heath issues, it's outside factors more then likely

i mean its true, anyone on the anti gay side is using dishonest fallacies

we finally agree on something

 

[NAMELESS]

people who are religious need to be re-oriented, there is something wrong with there brain

hahaha you are not biased at all