Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1078 Spoilers Discussion

[faker]

I think S-Shark has over better fighting skills and physical attacks while S-bear makes it up with his broken-ass DF. If it's strictly based on abilities they have, S-bear's a contender for the strongest Seraphim.

Teach's a Yonko and a monster in his own right. I don't see anything wrong with him blocking S-Hawk. We already know what S-Hawk can do before he even confronted Blackbeard. So It could only mean one of two things: One, S-Hawk used a weaker slash, Or two, Blackbeard's CoA can block mountain busters, which hypes BB if anything. S-Hawk loses nothing in that clash besides gaining fighting experience of fighting Blackbeard.

It'd be no different even if this happened to Sanji. If Sanji withstands S-Hawk's attack after we just got the confirmation that he could slice mountains. It can only mean either S-Hawk used a weaker attack or Sanji's good enough to eat mountain busters. But we don't have that luxury with S-Jimbe. We only know Queen broke Sanji's defense by slamming him to a wall beside what we already know about Exo-bodies from the Vinsmokes—Sanji has a stronger body than his siblings IMO but that's a different story.

I think we all agreed that King's defense was retconned during Zoro's fight. Zoro failed to cut King using a stronger Lion's Song than the one he used on S-Hawk—I think it's more accurate to say he failed to damage King because he did cut him. I agree Sanji's exo is stronger than his siblings, but it's still exo defense nonetheless. There's a strong possibility he's got something to do with Lunarians, but let's see how it'll turn out.

Zoro had let the king bleed before awakening CoC, and now he can't hurt S-Mihawk

Just like the queen can make Sanji bleed, but S-sharks can't hurt Sanji

You can't use two same standards in the same situation

 

[Albino 👑]

Half of this is pulled out of nowhere. The only people who can quickly exploit the Lunarian weakness are Luffy and Zoro. The rest can't do much besides landing a solid hit or two before the flames are back on.

Luffy and zoro still haven't shown to be able to hurt them flame on

Sayin zoro can and knows how to hurt lunarians flame on and off and just doesnt just because makes no sense

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The thing is king changed to speed mode to avoid the high damage of Zoro.

Vs Sanji there's no need to change to speed mode.

King changed cause he’s an idiot since even Zoro is claiming he can’t damage them with their flame on right now.

 

[Raughtale]

We should really take a minute to talk about Vegapunk.

- owes his intelligence to a fruit.
- The most important knowledge he acquired was from what Clover and Ohara collected over the years.
- His greatest creation is merely copy and pasting what's already there from the originals and implanting that into the cyborgs whether it's Lunarians, fruits, DNA of warlords, Kizaru's lasers etc.

I guess his biggest creation is the green blood and Punk records?

-owes his larger hard drive
-spoilers say he is beyond Ohara's knowledge
-Creating the internet and replicating DFs are kind of a big deal

 

[Gol D. Roger]

What is Jinbe's level offensively though?
He never really had any great DC feats.

We don't know precisely, but his best feats are breaking WW's defense and beating Wadatsumi with a high-end move, which scales up to mountain level more or less. That's where S-Hawk sits as of now too.

You're forgetting that Haki is a major factor here. Literally anyone with even decent CoA should be able to damage, but the Seraphim not having any as of now is good for scaling. A fighter with inferior physical strength but Haki could damage Sanji more than a physical freak with no Haki would.
- Jack for example couldn't scratch Sanji while most of the scabbards could.

Sure, but Haki doesn't bypass things. It just makes attacks abnormally strong, and it does work effectively against DF-based abilities. But these defenses are a bit different. And we know for a fact that physical attacks work on Sanji even without Haki.

 

[mrtsrdr]

Most important part of chapter is cover story. All germa siblings were born when mads exist. That means vegapunk and ceasar know how to generate judges children. Vegapunk should have known something about Sanji and Sora

 

[MonsterZoro]

Aight i see theres no reasoning with here lol

No reasoning just facts

 

[Sir Yasheen]

so you need yc2 level to hurt sanji.

anything above that kill sanji lol.

imagine saying otherwise, queen AP is shit compared to king imo.

Queens AP >>>> Kings that’s not even close.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

zoro hype even in this chapter.
s-hawk run away from him.

no one else did that to seraphim.

first s-hawk sweat now run away cause zoro who isnt even using coc nor three sword is too strong lmao.

also that war hype coming for zoro.

who calle this sanji chapter again? that is why I sayearly spoiler arent reliable.

Amen brother!

 

[MarineHQ]

-owes his larger hard drive
-spoilers say he is beyond Ohara's knowledge
-Creating the internet and replicating DFs are kind of a big deal

And how much of that would be possible if we strip him off his fruit ?

 

[.Charm.]

Yeah York is the mysterious one lol

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Luffy and zoro still haven't shown to be able to hurt them flame on

Sayin zoro can and knows how to hurt lunarians flame on and off and just doesnt just because makes no sense

Well, we at least have one panel implying they can hurt them at full power. So denying it for the sake of it just because we don't like it doesn't make much sense either.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

We should really take a minute to talk about Vegapunk.

- owes his intelligence to a fruit.
- The most important knowledge he acquired was from what Clover and Ohara collected over the years.
- His greatest creation is merely copy and pasting what's already there from the originals and implanting that into the cyborgs whether it's Lunarians, fruits, DNA of warlords, Kizaru's lasers etc.

I guess his biggest creation is the green blood and Punk records?

My ninja he made Artificial DFs, Green Blood, etc.
Knowing what happened in Ohara doesn't help him with those inventions.

 

[Killerj]

The seraphins are fodders, egghead arc needed them to stall a bit till kizaru shows up.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

how does zoro vs kizaru happen when kizaru's forte is air combat, speed, range, unless oda makes kizaru stupid like King by giving up his combat advantage, kizaru just needs to stay in the air and shoot laser beams-> zoro dies

Zoro already fought someone faster than Kizaru that can actually fly. Kizaru gets blitzed by any decent swordsman like old Ray and Shanks.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Amen brother!

Mihawks postponement is in his DNA, S-Hawk just inheriting that from his lineage factor.

 

[OPKnK]

Zoro: “don’t bother attacking when their flames on”

Funny things is Zoro said this more than once .
He said it during his king fight and he basically said it again last chapter
Flames on is hax even if they not going all out .

 

[Luslec]

Lmao what the fuck posthawk is back?!

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Aight i see theres no reasoning with here lol

Why would you ever attempt to reason with MonsterZoro?

 

[MonsterZoro]

King is actually trash his magma dragon hit fodder and they didn’t even fall right away they ran around screaming

like bro if you hit me with magma make it strong enough to kill me instantly