Is this the biggest single-chapter demolition of a character & fandom?


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The ground work is giving him base CoC in an arc where it's revealed that you can use CoC in battle

Kidd showcasing his haki, learning ryou, etc can all be handled down the line

The path was always open
Don chinjou show cased more coc than kidd. And using coc in battle SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHOWED IN THE SAME ARC THAT CONFIRMED IT. Oda literally confirmed through the mouth of a yonko that zoro has coc. Then chapters later had zoro fight someone even more durable than kaido. And then has zoro awaken and use advanced coc
 
I know all that, I read the same manga than you do and I also read the SBS.

If you read my message properly, I perfectly mentioned in it that if we only talk in terms of WSS (which is valid to be used as the only argument atm), of course that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks. My concern was about if that was it since all swordsmen are not portrayed the same manner by Oda. I would be more confident in accepting that Mihawk > Shanks if Oda could provide more info on the WSS title and on Roger, it's a valid concern and you don't have the right to criticize it just because you accept this statement more easily than I do.
I’m sorry but for me the whole “Roger case needs to be explain” is just another “Hakiman/pure swordsman” argument that exist solely to find a loophole in Mihawk’s title.

And it is what I said in my first answer to you, if Shanks was the WSS no one will try to find a loophole in the title. People will just accept that any one wielding a sword is weaker than Shanks.

But I guess you might want to wait for The Mihawk’s flashback to be satisfied.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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“I see, so Shanks would’ve an even better pirate king damn me!”

- Ghost Roger in laugh tale
I 100% bet he'll have some moment where it's explicitly said he could have been Joyboy but passed up on it.
Nah he’ll be a washed down pain. Sacrificing his life for Luffy
:milaugh:...

I hope his corpse is fed to a sea snake.
 
They can likely block his attacks with haki
And most his arent going to scar tbh. Attacks only really scar with meaningful attacks moreso than just attack power

Like technically luffy should be full of tons of scars
But luffy hasnt really fought a major enemy with swords yet. Other than akainu not a swordsman but has offensive devil fruit with dangerous lethal AP. But yea it would have to be a strong finisher attack. Dont get me wrong Zoro would still lose im saying he would fair off better than kid and law. He doesnt rely on devil fruits which is helpful against BB. And is a swordsman with advcoc which can help against shanks but still losing that fight because hes not there yet ofcourse.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
I actually don't think Snitch will ever catch a real L. Even when BB kills him he'll go down like a Goat.
I actually think Oda really screwed the pooch here with Shanks, objectively. All I’ve seen is pretty much universal criticism of having Shanks defeat Kid lol. The average OP fan’s mind is too filled with donkey shit to criticize “GODA!!1!” but everyone I’ve seen on Reddit and WorstGen is calling 1079 a bad move.
 
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