Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1079 Spoilers Discussion

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

So Shanks was at Wano because he thought BB would show up at Wano :zorothink:

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Now we wait for Katakuri to get sleep diffed by a BB commander or a new Vice Admiral.

 

[Kerkovian]

 

[Albino 👑]

That was just fake hype, bad publicity to try to keep appealing to Kid and Law fans.

Bounties have long lost meaning shit before anyway.

Bounties were never strictly strength tho but accomplishments
Just like how law got the same bounty as luffy in dressrosa and wano despite being weaker and having the weaker crew
That didn't matter because they both shared credit for taking down kaido and linlin

Just like how blackbeard a 2 bil and blackbeard at 4 bil are both the same level of strength. Difference is he accomplished something even greater than before showing how strong/dangerous he actually is

Or pekoks and tamago having higher bounty than oven and daifuku. Again not because they're stronger but have done more notable things

Like if you're roger level pirates and the most notable thing you've done is beat Bellamy or have him join you you're not gonna get a high bounty
But if you're a roger level picture and you're most notable thing you've done is beat kaido or have him join you youll definitely get a massive bounty

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

 

[Monster Luffy]

He's luffy without plot armor.

Here

Meh. Stop with this nonsense.
1) Did Kid manufacture his DF? How did he get it if not for free? He self-made his DF? And Luffy DF < Kid DF until awakening. Gomu is worse pre-awakening. Luffy DF always comes with drawbacks, can you tell me what is the drawback of Kid using his DF?

2) Luffy got trainers for free you say? Did Garp teach him haki when he was a kid? he was thrown into the jungle and he survived with his brothers in the jungle. Even Rayleigh offered Luffy to 'train' him post Marineford. And he just taught him basic haki skills. G4 is Luffy's invention not what was taught by Rayleigh.

3) Kid fought everything against all odds? what odds? and what consequences? losing his hand? does it affect them in any way in the story? no. Didn't Luffy lose his so much life because of the constant usage of gears and hormones during Marineford as a 'consequence'.

Do you know what is going against all odds? going against the world government for one nakama who can bring their crew danger, jumping into the most secured prison to save his brother, jumping into the war to fight for his brother, fighting a celestial dragon for his nakama, etc.
While Luffy lost his crew and his brother and had real consequences, Kid and his crew are simply chilling somewhere in new world.

People mocked Luffy for blindly jumping against Kaidou during Kuri. Then why you people are supporting the same Kid who went against Shanks without a plan? He did the same with Kaidou. He went without any plan to fight Kaidou. What do you expect?

Ever wonder why Kid is failing while Luffy is succeeding?

1) He won't learn from his defeats. For example, both Luffy and Kid lost against Kaidou, but Luffy was working on how to fight and defeat Kaidou, what was Kid doing?
2) Luffy and Kid both have the same dreams but Luffy care for people, while Kid kills people without any care and that care saves him many times. For example, Luffy helped Hyogoro and in turn, he helped Luffy to unlock adCoA and indirectly helped him to unlock adCoC. So in the end, Luffy did some good to people and it helped him in return in many situations.

Here no 'genetics' helped him to where he was.
And don't talk about genetics. Kid has CoC and therefore he is a chosen one like Luffy. So don't blame genetics for failures. At least, this defeat should help Kid to realize why he has lost.
And why didn't Kid learn or try to learn about haki?

Also, your talk about 'all odds' is hilarious. Kid has a higher bounty than Luffy's pre skip and we know the reason it was due to him attacking civilians, apart from being strong. So, if you talk about Kid being unfortunate, what about the people who died or were lost under his hands? aren't they even more unfortunate than Kid? so here same logic you have used will apply for Kid right? And there are pirates who are weaker than Kid, so they should blame Kid instead of their incompetence right?

Lastly, don't you dare think that without ad haki and a good crew, they have survived because they fought against all odds? They fought Shanks once and they were alive without any of the abovementioned why? it is plot/luck. I mean even weaker crew than Kid also survived in new world right?
You talk about 'consequences' but the real 'consequence' is Bigmom being dumbed down so that Kid without any haki can win. Kaidou's defense was retconned for him to take damage via 'brute' force. So, don't ever say that Kid survived on his own without any luck/plot.

Only incompetent people blame other people's success on 'genetics' or 'luck' for everything. Genetics won't make you a successful person, realizing your strengths and weakness and working on them will make you one. Luffy didn't become emperor under the 'D' quota. He built his own crew, it was his journey, not the one made by his father or his grandfather.

It is a fault on Oda wrote Kid without giving him some development like this but a character like Kid survived so far is not just their effort. Luffy is reckless like Kid but he learns from his defeats. Hope, Kid learns from this defeat and should know he needs to step up his game.

 

[Milkshake]

And what you aren't getting, is Shanks didn't attack them when they were down.

The Giants did. And I already explained why.

Kid attacked the Giants home. The Giants are proud Warriors, who believe if you start a fight you better be prepared to finish it.

For Shanks to try to stop them, he'd be stepping on their principles, and disrespecting their customs. He's not going to do that.

They got what they deserved and they knew the risks. You can't just attack someone's home with the intention of destruction on that level and expect there to not be a lethal level of retaliation. Anyone thinking otherwise is delusional and coping.

 

[Jailer]

Life's hard when you don't have The Zoro in your crew.
But then, there's only one The Zoro

Same Zoro that took him 10 chapters to figure that he's facing a similar guy he just defeated, and in the end even escaped from their sight

 

[Rivaille]

If the Kidd pirates survive they can join the Grand fleet under Barto and Cavendish.

The Kidd pirates will probably be an ally crew of the strawhat.
I do not think they will not appears in the story again.

 

[mrtsrdr]

When amazing double spread page ?

 

[hedera__helix]

Shanks was asking whether their wounds from Wano were healed or not but somehow some people think King and Queen were at 100% when GB beated them he also said it during Wano

This is the real takeaway from the chapter.

Instead, admiral fans are writing fanfiction about Shanks seeing the future of GB soloing the alliance.

 

[park_min young]

Roaring Thunder Bagua killed G4 ACoC Luffy, Death Destroyer Bagua is a level above that. It would KO anyone of them. Unless you think Law and Kidd have G5 lvls of durability?

That’s like Kaido’s top 2,3 move (Roring TB and DDB) for the novas to get 1 shot KO. This is literally Shanks’ first move, could be his weakest one for all we know. I’m guessing this is a mid-tier Shanks move though.

 

[Embers Kaios]

Agni you back my Rætarded friend. I missed you.

I never left

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I understand that Kid bros are angry and are feeling betrayed, however your headcanon not happening ≠ bad writing.

 

[Saikō No Kenshi]

Wow after waking up I wasn't prepared for much more Shanks hype.

First I was mind fucked by knowing he one shotted Kid, but thanks to Redons summary I know Shanks one shotted Kid + Killer, that's wild.

Kid and his entire crew drowning. Well there's 2 possibilities, first Kid is straight dead. Second kid will somehow rescued and becomes an alliance for Luffy.

I mean one thing for sure. He's mentally destroyed. His dream is over.

 

[Kerkovian]

Meh. Stop with this nonsense.
1) Did Kid manufacture his DF? How did he get it if not for free? He self-made his DF? And Luffy DF < Kid DF until awakening. Gomu is worse pre-awakening. Luffy DF always comes with drawbacks, can you tell me what is the drawback of Kid using his DF?

2) Luffy got trainers for free you say? Did Garp teach him haki when he was a kid? he was thrown into the jungle and he survived with his brothers in the jungle. Even Rayleigh offered Luffy to 'train' him post Marineford. And he just taught him basic haki skills. G4 is Luffy's invention not what was taught by Rayleigh.

3) Kid fought everything against all odds? what odds? and what consequences? losing his hand? does it affect them in any way in the story? no. Didn't Luffy lose his so much life because of the constant usage of gears and hormones during Marineford as a 'consequence'.

Do you know what is going against all odds? going against the world government for one nakama who can bring their crew danger, jumping into the most secured prison to save his brother, jumping into the war to fight for his brother, fighting a celestial dragon for his nakama, etc.
While Luffy lost his crew and his brother and had real consequences, Kid and his crew are simply chilling somewhere in new world.

People mocked Luffy for blindly jumping against Kaidou during Kuri. Then why you people are supporting the same Kid who went against Shanks without a plan? He did the same with Kaidou. He went without any plan to fight Kaidou. What do you expect?

Ever wonder why Kid is failing while Luffy is succeeding?

1) He won't learn from his defeats. For example, both Luffy and Kid lost against Kaidou, but Luffy was working on how to fight and defeat Kaidou, what was Kid doing?
2) Luffy and Kid both have the same dreams but Luffy care for people, while Kid kills people without any care and that care saves him many times. For example, Luffy helped Hyogoro and in turn, he helped Luffy to unlock adCoA and indirectly helped him to unlock adCoC. So in the end, Luffy did some good to people and it helped him in return in many situations.

Here no 'genetics' helped him to where he was.
And don't talk about genetics. Kid has CoC and therefore he is a chosen one like Luffy. So don't blame genetics for failures. At least, this defeat should help Kid to realize why he has lost.
And why didn't Kid learn or try to learn about haki?

Also, your talk about 'all odds' is hilarious. Kid has a higher bounty than Luffy's pre skip and we know the reason it was due to him attacking civilians, apart from being strong. So, if you talk about Kid being unfortunate, what about the people who died or were lost under his hands? aren't they even more unfortunate than Kid? so here same logic you have used will apply for Kid right? And there are pirates who are weaker than Kid, so they should blame Kid instead of their incompetence right?

Lastly, don't you dare think that without ad haki and a good crew, they have survived because they fought against all odds? They fought Shanks once and they were alive without any of the abovementioned why? it is plot/luck. I mean even weaker crew than Kid also survived in new world right?
You talk about 'consequences' but the real 'consequence' is Bigmom being dumbed down so that Kid without any haki can win. Kaidou's defense was retconned for him to take damage via 'brute' force. So, don't ever say that Kid survived on his own without any luck/plot.

Only incompetent people blame other people's success on 'genetics' or 'luck' for everything. Genetics won't make you a successful person, realizing your strengths and weakness and working on them will make you one. Luffy didn't become emperor under the 'D' quota. He built his own crew, it was his journey, not the one made by his father or his grandfather.

It is a fault on Oda wrote Kid without giving him some development like this but a character like Kid survived so far is not just their effort. Luffy is reckless like Kid but he learns from his defeats. Hope, Kid learns from this defeat and should know he needs to step up his game.

What a post mate. You just owned them Luffy haters. Enough of that bs. I couldn't have said it any better. Respect to you man. This a very good post, seriously. Enough bs about Luffy already. Chosen one my ass. He loses more times had he been the chosen one he should have negged every villian. His df is free after awakening.. 1044 chapters, he fought in his own way. Learnt from defeats. What has Midd done? Absolutely nothing. Stupid people can't read the story properly and act smart behind the screens.

 

[Debanv]

OMG Shanks' attack one shoted Kid and Killer, while Hakai from full power Hybride Kaido and Bigmom couldn't beat Zoro.

Shanks' attack is on an other level.

Shanks is on par with Roger.

Now Imagine Mihawk's named slash, even stronger. Mihawk can one shot EVERYONE ON THE VERSE.
Since he is > to Shanks, he is > to Roger.

Mihawk is the ultimate strongest character, with the strongest black blade, with the strongest haki ( coc, coa, coo ).

 

[Thaidakar]

3 billion Kid and killer trying to pull a zoro against a yonko

Meanwhile Zoro just being himself when facing two yonko

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

Shanks was asking whether their wounds from Wano were healed or not but somehow some people think King and Queen were at 100% when GB beated them he also said it during Wano

Remember
King and Queen in bandages = fully healed

 

[Embers Kaios]

Its not like we didint expect that allready

True Wanji has always been closer in strength to Luffy than anyone else