General & Others Why I love these characters

#1
I felt like writing up my reasoning for why my top five favourite characters in One Piece are my favourites. So I'm doing that.

1. ZORO
Zoro is my favourite character mostly because his character was basically written for me. Zoro is written as a character who is driven by ambition in its purest form, which is ambition for the sake of Ambition. This is different from Luffy whose ambitions mean something specific like freedom or proving something to Shanks. Zoro ambition exists because he decided it was so and it means nothing more. And thats why he's constantly questioning his ambitions the most. He choses to be WSS so that he can keep fighting Kuina. Then she dies and he choses to still pursue this goal for no specific reason in her memory as if that was some dying wish or regret of hers. Yet it wasnt. Then he pledges to help luffy be pirate king and immediately flops against Mihawk who tells him he has to travel the world way before he can hope to challenge him. And then of course he learns swordsmanship is about cutting nothing and later he proclaims his dream is worthless if his strength can't protect luffy against Kuma.

Basically Zoro is written similar to guys like Saitama where the pursuit of strength or ambition in itself is presented as lacking if it doesn't have specific meanings and Zoro has to keep looking for this meaning to give his ambitions substance. That's why Mihawk is presented as Zoro's final opponent since he's the closest analogue to Saitama. He's the only person in the story about Dreams who has currently achieved their actual dream and yet thats not enough anymore. Zoro is supposed to be different from Mihawk in that by the end of the series, he has found a cure for this Saitama syndrome of reaching the top and not finding fulfillment in that.

This is the primary character aspect of Zoro that makes him my favorite since this is a struggle of mine as well. Trying to find some meaning in the stuff I work for outside of just accomplishing the thing. And of course Zoro's a badass who uses swords and he's loyal man so there's those other things that I love as well.

2. LUFFY
Luffy is my second favourite because he is the best Main character I have ever seen in anime. And I mean even counting manga or seinen or shoujo or whatever. I have never seen a main character who can hold a series together so well. He is REMARKABLY consistent in his characterization even 900 chapters in and Oda goes to great lengths to make the story around him appear fresh and new while keeping Luffy consistent and it's amazing.

One very surprising RECENT example I've seen of this is Luffy convincing the Plague ridden prisoners in Udon to follow him. This situation caught me by surprise especially because this plot point wasn't my favourite and yet it ended so well with luffy pulling out another classic moment out of nowhere. Luffy taking the disease of the prisoners in a big hug and then tossing them back and fodderising the prison warden with future sight claiming he's tough shit and then passing out from the disease soon after so Chopper has to save him. This IS A PURE CLASSIC in my opinion and it just snuck up on me to remind me why this man is the MC of this story and it STILL WORKS.

Literally the main reason he's not my number one is again Zoro was practically written for me personally.

3. LAW
This is the most anime character in One Piece and I love it. I always found a way to distinguish One piece from other anime or manga whenever I talk about it. Like I would say X is an Anime thing except One piece or Y is a One piece thing not an anime thing. That is until the Dressrosa saga. This saga is the most Anime story Oda has written down to the point that it literally has a TOURNAMENT ARC subplot snuck in there just for the extra anime-ness. And of course I mostly attribute this anime-ness to the most Anime character in this story, Law (plus the most Anime Villain in One piece, Doffy)

Law is the edgy emo trash I literally recoil from in other series but Oda just actually made it work by adding the most heart to this tired ass trope I have ever seen. Like I'm not joking, I hate this trope of a character all the way from Sun eater to Sasuke to Hie to Ray. And the main reason I hate this trope is because there's NEVER a good enough emotional core for it. Such a character is almost exclusively always emo edgy for the most superficial reasons imaginable like "I'm just too intelligent" or "I have cursed blood" or some real Boring thing like that and Oda knew it. Oda knew that edgy emo types are too intelligent like law and have cursed blood like Law again with the White lead disease and the Will of D but he did something unprecedented, he made Law NOT WANT TO BE LIKE THAT. An emotional core of trying to grow out of this edgy emo shit despite the same old origin of "cursed blood" or whatever.

As in Law is the first of these types of characters I've seen who actively tries not to be edgy and emo and I love that. This was the missing ingredient in this type of character that I never knew I wanted. Law's backstory is literally about GIVING HIM A HEART and that's exactly what Law proclaims Corazon gave to him after feeding Law a HEART SHAPED FRUIT to cure that Edgy emo "cursed blood". Like fucking amazing symbolism right there.

Law is in my top three mainly because Oda subverted my expectations so hard on this to make me love such a character trope and now I'm forced to show off Law in my favourites to show all those other series how to do this edgy emo archetype properly. (You can argue Killua does in fact follow a similar arc as law but I saw Law first and Killua's arc isn't even as well done as law's)

4. USOPP
Usopp has my favourite dream in One piece. In this story about dreams there's no person whose dream I love more than Usopp's. I relate more to Zoro's struggle for his dream, and I'm more curious about how Luffy accomplishes his dream (since his is the point of the series) but Usopp's dream is the one I love the most from a conceptual level of what it is. And I love this conceptually because of how it fits Usopp and the Entire world of one piece itself

Usopp is a liar and his dream is to be a brave warrior of the sea BUT HE IS INTRODUCED AS A PERSON WHO LIES ABOUT ALREADY BEING A BRAVE WARRIOR OF THE SEA. The reason why his character changed to the former is because the world of One piece itself forced him to.

Usopp lied about finding a goldfish that pooped islands and then the World showed him that his wildest lies and imagination were nothing compared to the real deal when he does find said Goldfish in real life and it proceeds to get obliterated by giants to symbolise that that's not even a big deal.

Usopp witnessing the limitations of his imagination and lies is what gives him the belief that his original lie, that he was a brave warrior of the sea, can be achieved. The world is so much whackier and ridiculous than he could've imagined to the point that his whacky and ridiculous lie that he was a BRAVE WARRIOR OF THE SEA can actually become a thing he can strive for as a dream that's achievable by the laws of the world. And as we know, Usopp's lies do come true so that's how we know he will indeed become a Brave warrior.

This to me is the best melding of character, dreams and the world I've seen in One piece. Like for example we can discuss Zoro's goals using examples like Saitama but I cannot discuss Usopp in any other context but One piece. I cannot find a character whose only goal is get braver for no apparent reason than the romantic notion of bravery outside of maybe simple children's books and fairy tale. And yet Oda pulled it off by plucking a children's book character and putting them in this massive world that itself can be a children's book.


5. DOFFY
The most anime villain in One piece. As I said before, Dressrosa is the most anime arc in one piece I've seen and Law is the most anime character in One piece. So it stands to reason that Doffy is the most anime villain to match. And surprisingly, he's also my favourite villain in the series.

I've described Doffy before as an Agent of destruction and this here is the most anime thing I've seen in One piece. A character who wants to actually destroy the world. I don't think I had ever felt that Luffy or anyone was fighting such an unreasonable and dangerous man until Doffy. Most of the times you'd find guys like Enel who are insane bordering on delusional or Lucci who was just bloodthirsty. I had never seen a villain in one piece who was an arc villain yet he kept talking about the literal end of the world and goals beyond the island they are on. He was talking about celestial dragon secrets and manipulating Admirals and CP-0 and he had plans to attain immortality and he even had plan to become pirate king WITHOUT FINDING THE ONE PIECE. Like according to him, he required immortality and personality switching ability of laws fruit and the treasure of mariejois and he would've become pirate king. THIS GUY WAS SO DANGEROUS THAT HE FOUND AN ALTERNATE PATH TO THE END OF THE FREAKIN SERIES. I was reading all this and wondering how in the hell such a character was lurking in this world all this time.

Doflamingo is the main reason I continued to read one piece weekly. I caught up at the end of Punk hazard and I was switching back and forth from following weekly and waiting to binge after a few months until Doffy first arrived in punk hazard and used Conquerors haki. Every single time he would appear from then on it was pure fire and I had to read the next chapter immediately to see if he was there. Dressrosa remains the only arc in my opinion that has the big twist of the arc like literally 10 chapters in. When Doffy says he's a celestial dragon, there was nothing else that arc that sent shivers down my spine even CLOSE to that twist. Not Fujitora, not Gear fourth, not Sabo(I've never cared about this guy from day one), nothing. Doffy was pure anime menace like Griffith or Hisoka and it was fantastic.

Right. Those are some of my reasons for why I love these characters. Of course there's other reasons for each but I picked the main ones.
 
S

Shura

#2
I felt like writing up my reasoning for why my top five favourite characters in One Piece are my favourites. So I'm doing that.

1. ZORO
Zoro is my favourite character mostly because his character was basically written for me. Zoro is written as a character who is driven by ambition in its purest form, which is ambition for the sake of Ambition. This is different from Luffy whose ambitions mean something specific like freedom or proving something to Shanks. Zoro ambition exists because he decided it was so and it means nothing more. And thats why he's constantly questioning his ambitions the most. He choses to be WSS so that he can keep fighting Kuina. Then she dies and he choses to still pursue this goal for no specific reason in her memory as if that was some dying wish or regret of hers. Yet it wasnt. Then he pledges to help luffy be pirate king and immediately flops against Mihawk who tells him he has to travel the world way before he can hope to challenge him. And then of course he learns swordsmanship is about cutting nothing and later he proclaims his dream is worthless if his strength can't protect luffy against Kuma.

Basically Zoro is written similar to guys like Saitama where the pursuit of strength or ambition in itself is presented as lacking if it doesn't have specific meanings and Zoro has to keep looking for this meaning to give his ambitions substance. That's why Mihawk is presented as Zoro's final opponent since he's the closest analogue to Saitama. He's the only person in the story about Dreams who has currently achieved their actual dream and yet thats not enough anymore. Zoro is supposed to be different from Mihawk in that by the end of the series, he has found a cure for this Saitama syndrome of reaching the top and not finding fulfillment in that.

This is the primary character aspect of Zoro that makes him my favorite since this is a struggle of mine as well. Trying to find some meaning in the stuff I work for outside of just accomplishing the thing. And of course Zoro's a badass who uses swords and he's loyal man so there's those other things that I love as well.

2. LUFFY
Luffy is my second favourite because he is the best Main character I have ever seen in anime. And I mean even counting manga or seinen or shoujo or whatever. I have never seen a main character who can hold a series together so well. He is REMARKABLY consistent in his characterization even 900 chapters in and Oda goes to great lengths to make the story around him appear fresh and new while keeping Luffy consistent and it's amazing.

One very surprising RECENT example I've seen of this is Luffy convincing the Plague ridden prisoners in Udon to follow him. This situation caught me by surprise especially because this plot point wasn't my favourite and yet it ended so well with luffy pulling out another classic moment out of nowhere. Luffy taking the disease of the prisoners in a big hug and then tossing them back and fodderising the prison warden with future sight claiming he's tough shit and then passing out from the disease soon after so Chopper has to save him. This IS A PURE CLASSIC in my opinion and it just snuck up on me to remind me why this man is the MC of this story and it STILL WORKS.

Literally the main reason he's not my number one is again Zoro was practically written for me personally.

3. LAW
This is the most anime character in One Piece and I love it. I always found a way to distinguish One piece from other anime or manga whenever I talk about it. Like I would say X is an Anime thing except One piece or Y is a One piece thing not an anime thing. That is until the Dressrosa saga. This saga is the most Anime story Oda has written down to the point that it literally has a TOURNAMENT ARC subplot snuck in there just for the extra anime-ness. And of course I mostly attribute this anime-ness to the most Anime character in this story, Law (plus the most Anime Villain in One piece, Doffy)

Law is the edgy emo trash I literally recoil from in other series but Oda just actually made it work by adding the most heart to this tired ass trope I have ever seen. Like I'm not joking, I hate this trope of a character all the way from Sun eater to Sasuke to Hie to Ray. And the main reason I hate this trope is because there's NEVER a good enough emotional core for it. Such a character is almost exclusively always emo edgy for the most superficial reasons imaginable like "I'm just too intelligent" or "I have cursed blood" or some real Boring thing like that and Oda knew it. Oda knew that edgy emo types are too intelligent like law and have cursed blood like Law again with the White lead disease and the Will of D but he did something unprecedented, he made Law NOT WANT TO BE LIKE THAT. An emotional core of trying to grow out of this edgy emo shit despite the same old origin of "cursed blood" or whatever.

As in Law is the first of these types of characters I've seen who actively tries not to be edgy and emo and I love that. This was the missing ingredient in this type of character that I never knew I wanted. Law's backstory is literally about GIVING HIM A HEART and that's exactly what Law proclaims Corazon gave to him after feeding Law a HEART SHAPED FRUIT to cure that Edgy emo "cursed blood". Like fucking amazing symbolism right there.

Law is in my top three mainly because Oda subverted my expectations so hard on this to make me love such a character trope and now I'm forced to show off Law in my favourites to show all those other series how to do this edgy emo archetype properly. (You can argue Killua does in fact follow a similar arc as law but I saw Law first and Killua's arc isn't even as well done as law's)

4. USOPP
Usopp has my favourite dream in One piece. In this story about dreams there's no person whose dream I love more than Usopp's. I relate more to Zoro's struggle for his dream, and I'm more curious about how Luffy accomplishes his dream (since his is the point of the series) but Usopp's dream is the one I love the most from a conceptual level of what it is. And I love this conceptually because of how it fits Usopp and the Entire world of one piece itself

Usopp is a liar and his dream is to be a brave warrior of the sea BUT HE IS INTRODUCED AS A PERSON WHO LIES ABOUT ALREADY BEING A BRAVE WARRIOR OF THE SEA. The reason why his character changed to the former is because the world of One piece itself forced him to.

Usopp lied about finding a goldfish that pooped islands and then the World showed him that his wildest lies and imagination were nothing compared to the real deal when he does find said Goldfish in real life and it proceeds to get obliterated by giants to symbolise that that's not even a big deal.

Usopp witnessing the limitations of his imagination and lies is what gives him the belief that his original lie, that he was a brave warrior of the sea, can be achieved. The world is so much whackier and ridiculous than he could've imagined to the point that his whacky and ridiculous lie that he was a BRAVE WARRIOR OF THE SEA can actually become a thing he can strive for as a dream that's achievable by the laws of the world. And as we know, Usopp's lies do come true so that's how we know he will indeed become a Brave warrior.

This to me is the best melding of character, dreams and the world I've seen in One piece. Like for example we can discuss Zoro's goals using examples like Saitama but I cannot discuss Usopp in any other context but One piece. I cannot find a character whose only goal is get braver for no apparent reason than the romantic notion of bravery outside of maybe simple children's books and fairy tale. And yet Oda pulled it off by plucking a children's book character and putting them in this massive world that itself can be a children's book.


5. DOFFY
The most anime villain in One piece. As I said before, Dressrosa is the most anime arc in one piece I've seen and Law is the most anime character in One piece. So it stands to reason that Doffy is the most anime villain to match. And surprisingly, he's also my favourite villain in the series.

I've described Doffy before as an Agent of destruction and this here is the most anime thing I've seen in One piece. A character who wants to actually destroy the world. I don't think I had ever felt that Luffy or anyone was fighting such an unreasonable and dangerous man until Doffy. Most of the times you'd find guys like Enel who are insane bordering on delusional or Lucci who was just bloodthirsty. I had never seen a villain in one piece who was an arc villain yet he kept talking about the literal end of the world and goals beyond the island they are on. He was talking about celestial dragon secrets and manipulating Admirals and CP-0 and he had plans to attain immortality and he even had plan to become pirate king WITHOUT FINDING THE ONE PIECE. Like according to him, he required immortality and personality switching ability of laws fruit and the treasure of mariejois and he would've become pirate king. THIS GUY WAS SO DANGEROUS THAT HE FOUND AN ALTERNATE PATH TO THE END OF THE FREAKIN SERIES. I was reading all this and wondering how in the hell such a character was lurking in this world all this time.

Doflamingo is the main reason I continued to read one piece weekly. I caught up at the end of Punk hazard and I was switching back and forth from following weekly and waiting to binge after a few months until Doffy first arrived in punk hazard and used Conquerors haki. Every single time he would appear from then on it was pure fire and I had to read the next chapter immediately to see if he was there. Dressrosa remains the only arc in my opinion that has the big twist of the arc like literally 10 chapters in. When Doffy says he's a celestial dragon, there was nothing else that arc that sent shivers down my spine even CLOSE to that twist. Not Fujitora, not Gear fourth, not Sabo(I've never cared about this guy from day one), nothing. Doffy was pure anime menace like Griffith or Hisoka and it was fantastic.

Right. Those are some of my reasons for why I love these characters. Of course there's other reasons for each but I picked the main ones.
Nice list......except that Luffy and Zoro are 1 and 2 for me.....I will write later as to why.....
 
#6
Zoro's ambition is not just Ambition.
It is. That's why I said Zoro tries to ascribe meaning to it more and more himself and the meaning keeps changing until he even has to relinquish his pride in order to justify why he's getting stronger.

I don't know if you understood what I meant. I said Zoro struggles to give his strength meaning.

Also what does "falls flat for you" mean here?
 
#7
It is. That's why I said Zoro tries to ascribe meaning to it more and more himself and the meaning keeps changing until he even has to relinquish his pride in order to justify why he's getting stronger.

I don't know if you understood what I meant. I said Zoro struggles to give his strength meaning.

Also what does "falls flat for you" mean here?
It's not just Ambition for Ambitions sake, He does it to prove that he surpassed Kuina, something that she herself couldn't do and can't do now.
 
#8
Great list and characters mate

My list is so much different though:

1- Ace
2- Sanji
3- Katakuri
4- Dadan
5- Montblanc Cricket

As for my reasons, I'll pass on explaining them for the mean time! because each character require me to do extensive analysis to explain different aspects about their character and why I love them so much... and honestly, I'm typing on my phone and very lazy to do so now Lol
 
#9
It's not just Ambition for Ambitions sake, He does it to prove that he surpassed Kuina, something that she herself couldn't do and can't do now.
But you remember the first time he says it right

Kuina was crying about one day having to quit swordsmanship because she's a girl - Zoro doesnt care about that and says he wants to challenge her for the strongest swordsman position to ensure she doesn't quit and that the two can keep fighting each other

The very first instance of his ambition is for the sake of him getting to fight her once again until the day he can eventually beat her.

Then she dies and he decides by himself to hold on to the ambition for no reason. She never said she wanted Zoro to do anything for her and the entire strongest swordsman business was always just his idea and not hers but he decides For himself that Becoming the strongest swordsman in her memory is something worth striving for even though no one else really sees that besides him.

Then when he meets luffy he says "I never thought I would have to be a pirate to achieve goals but I guess I don't care if im a good guy or a bad guy, as long as you don't get it in my way" - This means he never even actually put any moral weight to his dream. He could be a good guy or bad guy for all he cared. Because of course being the strongest doesn't require a specific moral alignment. So once again Zoro had to ascribe a moral foundation to his goal which never had any. It was just Ambition as an ambition.

Later he even has to change his view on what swordsmanship is fundamentally. He was obsessing over being able to cut harder and harder things to prove his growth since Whiskey peak and he reaches a road block with Daz bones where he has to reevaluate the actual meaning of swordsmanship when he remembers his sensei saying "being able protect what you want to protect is true swordsmanship" and the point of his strength once again changes

Then there's both his encounters with mihawk where the first one he learns he must see way more of the world before he can reach Mihawk and that's when he decides he has to stick with Luffy all the way before he can even try fighting mihawk again and that's why he doesn't even challenge mihawk the next time they meet

Like are you seeing what keeps happening. The constant is that Zoro has this unyielding drive to get stronger and be the best but that's all it ever is. Being stronger and being the best doesn't come with any material gain, doesn't come with a moral victory, doesn't come with any effect on your comrades unless you decide to give it those things. Zoro decided that Kuina's sword would be the sword he would use to reach his goal. Not because he REQUIRES that very sword, it's because he chose to try and add meaning to his goal by saying this very sword is important to his strength. Zoro decided to pick a moral standing to accomplish his goal when it was t required. Now Zoro is mainly a good guy because he's in Luffy's crew so he has to be. His amotion doesn't come with a moral requirement. He chose to put one on himself so that his ambitions carry more weight.

And on and on it goes.

I hope I've explained this clearly enough. The ambition exists seperately from meanings Zoro ascribes to it. It's ambition for its own sake because by nature Zoro becoming WSS doesn't mean anything outside of what Zoro DECIDES it means.
 
#10
I've always seen it as trying to do something instead of someone who died and can't anymore, and keep your word.

When someone dies and you promise them something, it lies heavier on you than it would if the person was still alive.
 
#14
I've always seen it as trying to do something instead of someone who died and can't anymore, and keep your word.

When someone dies and you promise them something, it lies heavier on you than it would if the person was still alive.
That's inherited will basically. You take on the will or goals of the fallen or something.

That does apply to Zoro. He and Kuina promised to keep getting stronger until they can challenge each other to be the strongest. When she died he decided to take on her side of the promise by inheriting her sword

The difference is that being the strongest doesn't require all this baggage. Like you aren't closer to being the strongest gest swordsman because your friend died and you are using her sword. No. Zoro just just chose that thwose are things that matter to his goal. Same way he chose that Luffy has to be alive or else his goal is useless when he faced Kuma. These sort of things that Zoro adds to justify what he's getting stronger for are what some characters like Saitama or Mihawk are missing.
 
#16
Anyway your list is good, a bit similar to mine

My list is:

1. Luffy: The best written character ever, not in manga but in all stories.
2. Zoro: Great character but very toxic fandom.
3. Law: His interaction with Luffy and strawhats in general are priceless.
4. Shanks: Does this legend even needs explanation to why he is among the best.
5. Marco: He's a nice person yet a strong leader with a unique fruit that suits him. The flashback interaction he had with Oden and Neko and Inu made him even better.
 
#17
Wapol >>> Spandam >>> Orochi >>> Doffi :kriwhat:
I'm serious
I don't like it when the writer creates a villain that gain popularity by fans to a point that some fans root for him instead of rooting for MC
I consider it a failure to do the job of "being hated villain"
I would only consider it if that villain ideals and views makes you question yourself.. and put you in a dilimma about your morale if it's right to support MC or wrong this time. but Doffy never managed to do that

He's a villain at its core, but he never managed to make the viewers hate him... oh and please don't say such lame phrases like "you love to hate him"
Which is wrong for Doffy

Orochi you love to hate on him
Akainu we all loved hating on him during Marineford which is why later after marineford finished and our hate for him slowly rationalized, we started to view him as a great antagonist/villain depending on how you view him

I may even say that:

Saint Charloss > Orochi > Doffy

You all can hate my choices how you want

That celestial dragons scum, there is nothing more sayisfying that punching the hell out of his face... that's a great villain, where you WANT to see the main character stomp the shit out of this villain

With doffy, his ideals were as missed up, not challenging enough to make you root for him against the MC, but somehow, because he's cool, because he has cool attitude, because his design, power are cool, because his laugh is charismatic, because of so many other shit... people neglected his villain side and rooted for him for not a convincing reason like matching IDEALS... thus failed for me to be a good villain hated by people
 
#18
I'm serious
I don't like it when the writer creates a villain that gain popularity by fans to a point that some fans root for him instead of rooting for MC
I consider it a failure to do the job of "being hated villain"
I would only consider it if that villain ideals and views makes you question yourself.. and put you in a dilimma about your morale if it's right to support MC or wrong this time. but Doffy never managed to do that

He's a villain at its core, but he never managed to make the viewers hate him... oh and please don't say such lame phrases like "you love to hate him"
Which is wrong for Doffy

Orochi you love to hate on him
Akainu we all loved hating on him during Marineford which is why later after marineford finished and our hate for him slowly rationalized, we started to view him as a great antagonist/villain depending on how you view him

I may even say that:

Saint Charloss > Orochi > Doffy

You all can hate my choices how you want

That celestial dragons scum, there is nothing more sayisfying that punching the hell out of his face... that's a great villain, where you WANT to see the main character stomp the shit out of this villain

With doffy, his ideals were as missed up, not challenging enough to make you root for him against the MC, but somehow, because he's cool, because he has cool attitude, because his design, power are cool, because his laugh is charismatic, because of so many other shit... people neglected his villain side and rooted for him for not a convincing reason like matching IDEALS... thus failed for me to be a good villain hated by people
I actually wrote that list as joke I wasn't serious at all.

Though I still like doflamingo sadistic side but I understand what you're saying. Orochi as a villain is a perfect example of a well written villain that you love to hate.

If I understand correct, your type of a great villain like Crocodile who you not supposed to cheer against the MC but he is so good as a villain that you liked to hate him during Alabasta. and when he lost to Luffy you could feel sense of happiness for that.
 
#19
Sure :hihihi:
Post automatically merged:

I'm serious
I don't like it when the writer creates a villain that gain popularity by fans to a point that some fans root for him instead of rooting for MC
I consider it a failure to do the job of "being hated villain"
I would only consider it if that villain ideals and views makes you question yourself.. and put you in a dilimma about your morale if it's right to support MC or wrong this time. but Doffy never managed to do that

He's a villain at its core, but he never managed to make the viewers hate him... oh and please don't say such lame phrases like "you love to hate him"
Which is wrong for Doffy

Orochi you love to hate on him
Akainu we all loved hating on him during Marineford which is why later after marineford finished and our hate for him slowly rationalized, we started to view him as a great antagonist/villain depending on how you view him

I may even say that:

Saint Charloss > Orochi > Doffy

You all can hate my choices how you want

That celestial dragons scum, there is nothing more sayisfying that punching the hell out of his face... that's a great villain, where you WANT to see the main character stomp the shit out of this villain

With doffy, his ideals were as missed up, not challenging enough to make you root for him against the MC, but somehow, because he's cool, because he has cool attitude, because his design, power are cool, because his laugh is charismatic, because of so many other shit... people neglected his villain side and rooted for him for not a convincing reason like matching IDEALS... thus failed for me to be a good villain hated by people
There is no such a thing as good and evil. Doflamingo is a real (mad) man and he was right, the kingdom was his by birth, Law is a traitor and Fujitora a fool. Of course we root for him :finally:
 
#20
I'm serious
I don't like it when the writer creates a villain that gain popularity by fans to a point that some fans root for him instead of rooting for MC
I consider it a failure to do the job of "being hated villain"
I would only consider it if that villain ideals and views makes you question yourself.. and put you in a dilimma about your morale if it's right to support MC or wrong this time. but Doffy never managed to do that

He's a villain at its core, but he never managed to make the viewers hate him... oh and please don't say such lame phrases like "you love to hate him"
Which is wrong for Doffy

Orochi you love to hate on him
Akainu we all loved hating on him during Marineford which is why later after marineford finished and our hate for him slowly rationalized, we started to view him as a great antagonist/villain depending on how you view him

I may even say that:

Saint Charloss > Orochi > Doffy

You all can hate my choices how you want

That celestial dragons scum, there is nothing more sayisfying that punching the hell out of his face... that's a great villain, where you WANT to see the main character stomp the shit out of this villain

With doffy, his ideals were as missed up, not challenging enough to make you root for him against the MC, but somehow, because he's cool, because he has cool attitude, because his design, power are cool, because his laugh is charismatic, because of so many other shit... people neglected his villain side and rooted for him for not a convincing reason like matching IDEALS... thus failed for me to be a good villain hated by people
Orochi is not a good villain because I just want him gone. Not defeated, not battled, gone from existence. Boring and uninteresting.
He doesn't even deserve something as hate, he just has zero personality.
 
Likes: yj
Top