Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

One thing I'll say is that we live in a culturally-male-dominated world that is harmful to both men and women, if not young men more than women in some places, but the issues men have are not because of or in any way brought on by feminism, which is completely inclusive to men's issues, even if many individual feminists are fucking cunts and don't take them seriously, but instead bred largely from socioeconomic factors and from toxic, traditionally masculine influences on our current society. Women are directly victimized by men way way way way WAY more than men are by women, but men are still subject to severely harmful psychological conditioning and social expectations as a result of the aforementioned toxic culture we live in, which leads to things such as significantly higher rates of suicide in men.

The problem is neither women nor men, and it isn't feminism either, it's the prevailing sociocultural mindset which places men in a position that demands on them to conform to a dominant, heteronormative, "(toxically) masculine" position, in contexts both conscious and subconscious on the part of it's many enablers (all of us, you and me included to at least some degree whether we like to admit it or not), that is quite clearly NOT healthy and sustainable, especially in our current times, when the norms of the past are being challenged and changed and young men are not given a better narrative.

There's nothing wrong with masculinity. Just as the problem with a rotten egg is the "rotten", not the egg, the problem with toxic masculinity is the "toxic", not the masculinity.

what do you define as "toxic",plz.Btw,you are way more articulate and reasonable than some users.There is some he/she/it here that wants to eradicate masculinity lol

 

[Zolo]

The last phrase was beautiful
You have the right mindset in a self centred/egoistic society
I wish you good luck and success mate

I wish everyone here success. I wish everyone had a goal and try to reach it and to do it.. becouse when you see things working out you stop being angry about everyone and everything... people blame everything but themselves... also governments suck. you can blame it all you want you will be right lol

 

[NAMELESS]

despite of this declaration

you cant name one example
that is not easily refuted





you said the culture was toxic for both genders
I merely explained why that is literally bs

Bill gates,Steve Jobs...but there are so many.Here in Brazil we have Flávio augusto and many others.Brazil is third world country and we do have billionaires that are self made.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

what do you define as "toxic",plz.Btw,you are way more articulate and reasonable than some users.There is some he/she/it here that wants to eradicate masculinity lol

If you are talking about me then you are sorely mistaken.

 

[Zolo]

despite of this declaration

you cant name one example
that is not easily refuted





you said the culture was toxic for both genders
I merely explained why that is literally bs

the harder the challange the sweeter the goal

 

[Midnight Delight]

Hu

 

[Cross_Marian]

The best thing you can do in this dumbfuck cuntry is skipping classes, copying homework, cheating in exams, free up as much time as possible and use it to educate yourself.
That's the only way to avoid turning into a completely idiotic adult that doesn't understand the world.

The nature around us taught me more than school
School itself is dumb system
You compare students with each other and ignore the individuality of each person
Not everyone is good in Math or English
Every subject should have the same importance
I could rant for hours

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Even Bobby knows better than to simp for billionaires.

 

[NAMELESS]

I do forestry. I made a thread about it. forests are awesome

You chop down trees?

 

[bennbeckman]

What is assault weapon? 2A for the win! Every sane person should have right to own any type of gun.

Another person who truly lacks understanding of the issues with gun violence and gun deaths in America... congrats

No issue with anyone owning a gun, just the procedures of how easy it is to do so. Like universal background checks and having similar requirements to that of getting a drivers license, taking classes etc.

 

[NAMELESS]

If you are talking about me then you are sorely mistaken.

Jesus,man.I was actually talking about C4N.You are becoming paranoid now.I don't remeber you saying anything about eradicating virility(she/he/it used some term similar to this).

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Hu

Ha

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Jesus,man.I was actually talking about C4N.You are becoming paranoid now.I don't remeber you saying anything about eradicating virility(she/he/it used some term similar to this).

I don't know who that is.

 

[Bob74h]

One thing I'll say is that we live in a culturally-male-dominated

you live in a femminist fantasy land if you actually think this


if you were right then women would be expected to provide for men not the vice versa

s, but the issues men have are not because of or in any way brought on by feminism

they are
and this is very easily explainable on many counts

just recently the gym thot reporting men in gyms thing was a problem caused metoo which was created femminism


this is just a example btw
but femminism exists at the benefit of women and at the detriment to men which is why no man would ever support femmism cause it's against their own best interests

traditionally masculine influences on our current society.

LOL


You guys both think men are gods of society and only problem that can occur to stop a man would be his own faults
quit acting like your femmiist view on men is really that different to the trad cucks

Women are directly victimized by men way way way way WAY more than men are by women,

If your going say women victims cause rape
men are raped more when you take into prison rapes

which leads to things such as significantly higher rates of suicide in men.

it's not solely just on the blame of the tradcons
If their were still male shelters then maybe those men would be alive but remind me again who got the funding for those shut down


it was the femminist who did it

 

[Zolo]

You chop down trees?

If need be yes. but now mostly make forests clean from bushes etc. Its hard work but I love it... I stop for a moment put gas in my bushcutter hear birds, talk to you guys ... just wonderfull fealing, and there is no preasure, no boss... no stress... sometimes I work from dawn till night becouse I have nothing better to do

 

[NAMELESS]

I don't know who that is.

carrot4nakama

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Another person who truly lacks understanding of the issues with gun violence and gun deaths in America... congrats

No issue with anyone owning a gun, just the procedures of how easy it is to do so. Like universal background checks and having similar requirements to that of getting a drivers license, taking classes etc.

It's such a reasonable ask, but the gun lobby has that strong of a hold on the republican party.

 

[Cross_Marian]

I wish everyone here success. I wish everyone had a goal and try to reach it and to do it.. becouse when you see things working out you stop being angry about everyone and everything... people blame everything but themselves... also governments suck. you can blame it all you want you will be right lol

Not everyone deserves success because there are some egoistic and evil people out there
Power hungry people are terrifying and I’ve seen some of them
Not a single soul can impress me with a high degree
You can only impress me with humbleness and kindness

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The nature around us taught me more than school
School itself is dumb system
You compare students with each other and ignore the individuality of each person
Not everyone is good in Math or English
Every subject should have the same importance
I could rant for hours

Bruh that shit system forced me to give up Spanish classes because you couldn't have three languages in your finals. You were required to chose one science as a main subject.
I'd profit a lot today had I been allowed to keep Spanish.
And none of the stuff I was ever interested in was a part of the school curriculum.
I studied for grades, not for myself. 13 years of mental torture.

 

[ClovenHoofClown]

what do you define as "toxic",plz.Btw,you are way more articulate and reasonable than some users.There is some he/she/it here that wants to eradicate masculinity lol

I'm not going to go into depth, but some basic examples include men being taught to suppress their emotions (men dont cry bullshit), boys being taught that aggression and risk-taking (drugs, gambling) are positive, admirable, cool or otherwise desirable traits, the idea that many men have, consciously nor not, that they are "owed" a woman or that it is shameful to not be in a relationship, the idea that it's bad to be vulnerable and open with others, etc.

I'll respond more later if I feel like it, but I'm tired.

 

[NAMELESS]

If need be yes. but now mostly make forests clean from bushes etc. Its hard work but I love it... I stop for a moment put gas in my bushcutter hear birds, talk to you guys ... just wonderfull fealing, and there is no preasure, no boss... no stress... sometimes I work from dawn till night becouse I have nothing better to do

cool,sounds like a peacfull job.

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I'm not going to go into depth, but some basic examples include men being taught to suppress their emotions (men dont cry bullshit), boys being taught that aggression and risk-taking (drugs, gambling) are positive, admirable, cool or otherwise desirable traits, the idea that many men have, consciously nor not, that they are "owed" a woman or that it is shameful to not be in a relationship, the idea that it's bad to be vulnerable and open with others, etc.

I'll respond more later if I feel like it, but I'm tired.

Sounds reasonable.As for the drug,gambling stuff is more of a thing of men that have some involvement with gangs and that culture.